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Band of Brothers Alliance Disbanded
BoB is now closed. Apparently there was a director level spy from goonswarm that managed to close down the alliance...
Discuss.
Discuss.
Comments
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February 04, 2009, 06:26:18 pm
lier? -
February 04, 2009, 06:31:46 pm
lol hows that work? had control of all the corp in the alliance and booted them?
if that's true he is a fool. they will just reform.
sounds like bs to me
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February 04, 2009, 06:41:11 pm
lol hows that work? had control of all the corp in the alliance and booted them?
if that's true he is a fool. they will just reform.
sounds like bs to me
Look up Band of Brothers. I'll link you the thread if you want.
Also, as soon as they went down, Goons formed a new alliance w/ their ticker. -
February 04, 2009, 06:44:52 pm
Lets see some proof!lol hows that work? had control of all the corp in the alliance and booted them?
if that's true he is a fool. they will just reform.
sounds like bs to me
Look up Band of Brothers. I'll link you the thread if you want.
Also, as soon as they went down, Goons formed a new alliance w/ their ticker. -
February 04, 2009, 06:45:40 pm
its true everyone is talkign about it and check out the new band of brothers -
February 04, 2009, 06:49:10 pm
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=990407
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:censored: ING BS!!!! CCP IS RESTORING BOB! WHAT THE :censored: !
My anger cannot be allowed to be laid dormant anymore. A scam hits the biggest alliance and CCP fixes it. Yet, CCP lets scams happen on a huge scale, but if something happens to the CCP pet, it gets fixed. -
February 04, 2009, 06:56:28 pm
ROFLMAO Goons4life!!!!! -
February 04, 2009, 07:07:37 pm
The news spread so hard, this has been announced about the forums...
"(9:04 PM) Solo Drakban: Attention: Due to the extreme levels of traffic hitting the server current we are going to be reducing the site to a pure text form shortly until we stop having 1,200+ people reading the forums at once. (Yes, 1,200 people are logged in right now)"
What a ruckus this has stirred up with BoB being dead... finally. -
February 04, 2009, 07:13:53 pm
Apparently Goon suddenly got access to a "Tinfoil" Director, which was the Executor Corp of BoB ... and after stealing pretty much all Assets from BNC said Director kicked all Corps from BoB and closed the Alliance.
Results:
All BoB Sov will Drop, that includes Sov 4, all CapShips in building will not be completed (i dont exactly know what happens to them, sorry) ...
I´m not entirely sure what to think of this. On one hand i never liked BoB ... but on the other hand i never liked Goon either.
Anyway ... Goon or other Alliances will invade Delve the next few days, seeing as Sov is gone etc.
If you just lean back and look at it all from the outside, and if you don´t actually care that much about politics in EVE, this is all pretty funny in my opinion* ZMaster is afk to buy some Popcorn -
February 04, 2009, 07:17:13 pm
*delete -
February 04, 2009, 07:18:01 pm
this is pretty funny -
February 04, 2009, 07:27:44 pm
haha, the hostile takeover of our lil mining corp is kinda negligible compared to this! <.< -
February 04, 2009, 07:36:54 pm
Baby ships don't get born, they stay as fetus's and become aborted... and the minerals wasted.
Any who, BoB gone means that all hell can break loose again, hopefully. Goons wont be fighting them, instead they will be attacking everything left and right. But even then they don't care much for their space. This means we wont have to worry about CCP's pets moving around, until they make a new alliance.
But still, this means three systems will be open for anyone to grab, and it's going to be a mad dash and an insane free for all down there. Seriously, this couldn't have come at a better time. These nullsec alliances will now have to decide between taking BoB's space, or trying to get a hold of T3. -
February 04, 2009, 07:58:13 pm
If goons did this on the legal side, gratz!
Got to be one of the biggest events in EVEs history.
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February 04, 2009, 08:04:38 pm
If goons did this on the legal side, gratz!
Got to be one of the biggest events in EVEs history.
Listening to the recording of Goonies leadership announcing this stuff.
It was a director from Tinfoil who joined Goonies via alt, then gave Goonies 15 fully fit Dreadnaughts, as well as hundreds of non-fit ships. Also, many of the leadership fight with each other, and the members would rather be with Goonies than BoB from where it's at now.
Amazing how this happened, AND, if you look at the EveWiki, everything has turned past tense... LOL. Looks like CCP isn't saving it's pet after all.
GOD SAVE THE...Goon... or some shit, I don't :censored: ing know. Happy day in Eve history indeed. -
February 04, 2009, 08:33:46 pm
It is being reported in a variety of places inside the EVE Online forums that the famous (or infamous) alliance, Band of Brothers, has been infiltrated and destroyed from inside by Goonswarm.
We will be following these developments. If its true, it is a watershed moment in EVE.
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February 04, 2009, 08:34:31 pm
Disband of Brothers
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February 04, 2009, 08:38:27 pm
If I didn't have such a distaste for goons, this would be pretty cool. I always thought the fact that social engineering was fully acceptable was Eve's coolest features. -
February 04, 2009, 08:40:56 pm
Not sure whether to be happy or not, its never good to have 2 or more big alliances controlling most of the 0.0 space, but neither is one by itself. -
February 04, 2009, 10:21:22 pm
whelp, i'm glad i left the GBC early then
whatever happens, bob or no bob I can't see all the surrounding alliances not taking this opportunity to take all the can get their hands on. I expect related suicides as well -
February 04, 2009, 10:31:47 pm
wow.. wtf
take a break from eve an all hell breaks loose.. -
February 04, 2009, 10:34:27 pm
lol, check out the photo's thread for a real shocker -
February 04, 2009, 10:35:51 pm
i think this could be good for eve.
a massive scramble for some of the best territory in eve. -
February 04, 2009, 10:39:58 pm
latest intel I have is that it was performed by an account who's holder is in boot camp.
I smell hack. about a 60% chance that CCP will undue this in my estimation. -
February 04, 2009, 10:58:24 pm
ccp will remove effects that were not allowed by eula.
so they will bring back the alliance on all official levels, all pos's will still be off, all assets and ships stolen are still gone.
there's gonna be a fire in delve over the next while here.. either way, i'd say some shit's changing -
February 04, 2009, 10:58:52 pm
DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD< THE WICKED WITCH.. etc
you get the gist -
February 04, 2009, 11:54:35 pm
Free super caps lol
i kinda hope bob get back up and slap goons in a full deployment of all war ships.
they need too i think i hate goons and not a fan of bob but i think the time as come for an insane war. delve is going to be in a state of panic right now. so let it its time to man up and bring all them toys out to play. might loos or they might win but at least they did something about it and did not site there and try get ccp to fix it.
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February 05, 2009, 01:24:38 am
What a shame -
February 05, 2009, 01:34:58 am
It should be very interesting. A lot of BoB were is Great wildlands etc, and now their jump bridge network is down. They will ge back as individual corps hold stations rather than alliances....well unless some individual corps make a grab for it. I can also see smaller alliances making a coalition to attack Delve.
While BoB tries to get back together (if they can, seemingly goons are going to publish director level forums showing all the infighting) it should give Goons and friends an almost free run at the backstabbers in -A- -
February 05, 2009, 02:04:46 am
they are already reforming afaik.
im guessing it will just stop there offensive while they retreat to delve to reform. -
February 05, 2009, 02:07:18 am
they are already reforming afaik.
im guessing it will just stop there offensive while they retreat to delve to reform.
Yeah, I think it was power that held them together, and the riches. What if some corps want to reform and others want to form their own alliance. There could be a civil war type scenario -
February 05, 2009, 02:19:56 am
Director level burn. Allowed by the game mechanics. Definately not nice being on the receiving end.
Watch the vultures... -
February 05, 2009, 02:22:53 am
Bob director did this... Goons just claiming credit (along with the hangers on...)
There is a reason I got out of powerblock politics. Can't stand the bunch of them.
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February 05, 2009, 03:01:41 am
Its not very nice....but the masters of metagaming have been hit by the best metagaming effort in the game...Irony -
February 05, 2009, 03:10:14 am
they are already reforming afaik.
im guessing it will just stop there offensive while they retreat to delve to reform.
Should have said, they will have to reform under no sov...which should drop at downtime today, while being harried by Goons/tcf/pl and any others that fancy a fight -
February 05, 2009, 03:20:55 am
BoB are not CCP pets folks... some people seem to have forgotten that the Goons have more Dev's flying for them than any other alliance. This is not CAOD, leave the prejudices at the door.
Personally, I think its a crap way for one of the most influential alliances the game has ever seen to go down. Love them or hate them, BoB create waves, they drive the 0.0 game onwards, they create opportunities for smaller entities to get into 0.0 (believe it or not), Eve would be a poorer place without them.
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February 05, 2009, 03:24:21 am
i think this could be good for eve.
a massive scramble for some of the best territory in eve.
Thats rubbish, and you know it, NC, Goons and co will simply step in and take yet more space... the little guys wont get a look in.
With the super power blocks 0.0 is fubared beyond belief till CCP changes the way sov works. -
February 05, 2009, 03:40:14 am
NOL-M9 - A few hours after midnight on 05.02.111, Band of Brothers alliance was disbanded. The loss of formal alliance status forcibly relinquished all Band of Brothers held sovereignty, and thus is expected to render all their outposts vulnerable, pause the construction of all motherships and titans currently being built in their capital assembly arrays and interfere with the proper fuctioning of cynojammers and jump bridge waystations at their control towers. This effect has never been seen before on such a huge scale, so there is much uncertainty about the precise effects.
There are currently multiple theories as to the actual cause of the disbanding of the alliance. A director in Band of Brother's executor corp, TinFoil, and director Haargoth Agamar of Black Nova Corp are alleged to have disbanded the alliance and handed over Black Nova Corp assets at the instigation of The Mittani of Goonswarm. Comments on the Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions section of GalNet, however, shed doubt on this claim.Tin Foil pilot Agaue asserted on GalNet that the disbanding was not caused by a spy:
"I like how everyone is stating their opinions like it is fact... when in truth they have no idea what happened. I will state as a fact:
"1) it wasnt a bill/money issue.
"2) it wasnt spy related.
"Mittani isnt dumb enough to put his hand up and say he is responsible."Elitus of Reikoku stated on GalNet that the issue was not an unpaid bill:
"I'll go and say this: previous bill was paid on the 6th of Janurary. Previous bill before that was paid on the 6th of December. Currently looks like HAT was compromised... Log shows 500 mil was removed from the wallet stating 'mittani says hi.' We are investigating."
A new corporation named "Band of Brothers" has been created, allegedly by GoonSwarm affiliates, in an apparent attempt to keep the alliance name and ticker out of the hands of former BoB members.
The Mittani further claims on GalNet that he has archived the Band of Brothers directorial forum and will be publishing it in full for the public eye.
The Interstellar Correspondents are looking into this story in-depth and will bring you updates and interviews in the coming hours as we attempt to learn the truth behind these events and their consequences.
GalNet References
Audio: The Mittani of Goonswarm Claims Responsibility
Constructive Thread - What Happened to BoB?
There is no BoB
Evidence of the Theft
Original source -
February 05, 2009, 03:45:04 am
you really think NC and goons and friends are going to just march in to delve and take it?
i guess the next few days weeks will tell all. but i hope to see a war a really big war i have my ships packed into my carrier and ready to head to delve.
if bob dont try and recover fast and focuse on a small pocket of systems to get a foot hold again than god help them and delve will be the next pvp hot spot for roaming corps and alliance warfare . with nothing protecting there super caps from hot drops its going to be fun -
February 05, 2009, 03:46:34 am
I never claimed they were pets, but they are masters of turning directors...the other week in DG- for example, and also getting pos passwords and other metagaming.
An influential alliance has gone down, but another will spring from it, there will be epic fights, what will -a- do? it just makes the game more interesting for me -
February 05, 2009, 03:52:10 am
Don't confuse actions of aAa with that of BoB.
You should be wearing a tinfoil hat if you think others have not fully utilised ALL methods of metagaming.
Other alliances have been blatant in borderline actions with nary a comment against them.
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February 05, 2009, 04:01:40 am
lol goon have just won eve. just flat out won it even if bob get back on track they have lost hundreds of billions of isk lost all sov and wont have it back for weeks. and have lost there famous name. well done -
February 05, 2009, 04:03:05 am
Every major 0.0 entity metagames, and they all do it to the maximum possible extent. BoB is far from unusual in that, they are simply the most readily published...
So it leads to oh... BoB is metagaming again... yet Mittani's spy ring in Goons is far more highly developed than BoB's ever was, Goons use metagaming techniques... so where is the hate towards them? You hate metagaming? Then hate all the 0.0 alliances equally... I do... cant stand any of them. I know of several occasions where alliances other than BoB have actually had their opponants websites hacked... not infiltrated... hacked... yet I hear nothing about those instances.
Whether you like BoB or not, they deserved to go down fighting, in a blaze of glory... not with this pathetic whimper. I would say that about all 0.0 alliances. Personally I believe CCP really need to fix Sov, until sov is fixed... 0.0 is simply going to remain the same as it is now... pretty much all owned by the various super powers who can hold vast regions of space that 90% of their player base rarely even travels through... let alone uses. -
February 05, 2009, 04:11:12 am
this was perfect this shows that you really need to trust the guys you give power to if bob were not such dicks to there members then this would never of happned -
February 05, 2009, 04:27:29 am
Every major 0.0 entity metagames, and they all do it to the maximum possible extent. BoB is far from unusual in that, they are simply the most readily published...
So it leads to oh... BoB is metagaming again... yet Mittani's spy ring in Goons is far more highly developed than BoB's ever was, Goons use metagaming techniques... so where is the hate towards them? You hate metagaming? Then hate all the 0.0 alliances equally... I do... cant stand any of them. I know of several occasions where alliances other than BoB have actually had their opponants websites hacked... not infiltrated... hacked... yet I hear nothing about those instances.
Whether you like BoB or not, they deserved to go down fighting, in a blaze of glory... not with this pathetic whimper. I would say that about all 0.0 alliances. Personally I believe CCP really need to fix Sov, until sov is fixed... 0.0 is simply going to remain the same as it is now... pretty much all owned by the various super powers who can hold vast regions of space that 90% of their player base rarely even travels through... let alone uses.
Many allliances, maybe the majority have failcascaded and not gone done fighting, in-house arguments, corp thieves etc. BoB now has a chance to go down fighting, or even survive and get stronger, but under a new name and no sovereignty to protect them
All alliances do this, but I still believe BoB were the masters of it, and maybe even developed the concept. I don't believe the Goons could boast a tenth of what BoB has using these tactics
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February 05, 2009, 04:50:09 am
well bob set themselves up when titans where over powered and by cheating spawning officers and what not. they been sitting in that corner of eve for a very long time i think they were even the first alliance to get sov 4? i might be wrong about that im not sure. now there shell has been cracked it time to rep it up and rebuild without protection of sov 4 now is the time for them to show eve what they can do. i think an eve scale pearl harbor has happened and the war is just about to hit eve like we have never seen. the dog has been kicked now we will see if it will bite back. be ready people its going to get crazy. -
February 05, 2009, 05:02:58 am
No, BoB are the masters at publicising their metagaming successes, they have been the victims of metagaming as much as they have been the instigators.
The fact is, all the major Alliances have to be good metagamers... or they wont get anywhere. Singling BoB out simply because its perceived to be the most active metagaming Alliance out there is like picking out a single tree in a forest and claiming all trees in the forest belong to the same species. Its false. They are all as bad as each other... I am fine in my bias... I loathe all the major alliances equally, but thats because I loathe metagaming.
Every alliance I have fought in, fought with, and fought against has metagamed... and they are all very good at it.
Would you cheer so hard if people did the same to the entire NC? After all... they had their sov to protect them... or the Goons... they have sov to protect them. The broken mechanic of Sov is used and abused by all alliances to protect their home territory as NC proved during the MAX campaign.
The point is, killing an Alliance in this way makes the game a poorer place... and for the first time in almost 3 years I begin to wonder why I am still playing. I couldnt care less about an Alliances leadership... but most of BoB are players, like you and me, who have pride in their corps, pride in their alliance... and to see it killed like this is, is sad. Eve has lost some of the sparkle it once had... nto only because of this... but also because of peoples reaction to it.
And Blood... BoB didnt cheat, T20 did... and he didnt do it by spawning officers. That was one person... look into it, there is an explanation of how he did it on SHC somewhere.
The ones who farmed the broken complexes were not actually BoB... they have always made the bulk of their money from their T2 BPO's... and despite what people say, the vast majority of their collection was gained legitimately... other than those very few T20 got.
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February 05, 2009, 05:11:11 am
The point is, killing an Alliance in this way makes the game a poorer place... and for the first time in almost 3 years I begin to wonder why I am still playing. I couldnt care less about an Alliances leadership... but most of BoB are players, like you and me, who have pride in their corps, pride in their alliance... and to see it killed like this is, is sad. Eve has lost some of the sparkle it once had... nto only because of this... but also because of peoples reaction to it.
Those "poor" players will still be there, as will their caps etc, they will still be richer than I'll ever be after years of farming one of the best and most easily defensible regions. How will they react interests me
The bit I highlighted is the bit I mostly disagree with...this adds sparkle to Eve for me, what will happen? Will BoB survive as a new entity with a different name? Will DICE start a new alliance and fight old buddies for space? Who will get super rich in Delve? What will happen to the GBC? Will Goons/TCF/PL hit Delve or stick it to -A-? Will Goons and -A- kiss and make up and hit Delve? What will happen with -a-? How will Eve change? Will this have impact on the new expansion?
If it was NC...meh they've had enough dramas and failures. But BoB or Goons are on a different scale -
February 05, 2009, 05:24:51 am
you really think NC and goons and friends are going to just march in to delve and take it?
Right... BoB have effectively lost all supercap production (NC plus friends retain theirs so can replace losses). They have lost their Jump Bridge chain, they will lose their outposts, they will lose their cyno jammers... while yours will remain up so you can store your assets nice and safe.
If you think this is going to be a period of roaming warfare you are seriously kidding yourself, its going to be a massive Cap fleet thrust to break BoB once and for all while they are down. Roams will be out of the question...
Let me put it his way... if someone did the same to you... how would you expect your alliances enemies to act?
Thats right... one brutal, all out broad front thrust in an attempt to wipe you off the face of the map... and with a fubared logistics chain, no jammers, half your POS's offlined through lack of fuel and all your outposts immediately vulnerable you honestly think NC and Goons would do it any other way? You think you would be able to fight off those kind of forces in your alliance after losing all the benefits of Sov?
I would not be surprised if BoB retrieved everything they could, and pulled out into safer space, either lowsec or base with aAa.
Thats how I would do it... denial works in many ways... Delve is an untenable tactical and strategic situation. In their shoes the best course of action is to deny the vultures their 'victory', rebuild their alliance... and come back in.
I would not be surprised if BoB chose to abandon Delve... they have shown a willingness to abandon untenable positions before.
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February 05, 2009, 05:30:46 am
if BoB abandon delve then its all over, AAA just can support a war effor against goon and friends with just the resources of thier space to keep them going. -
February 05, 2009, 05:38:24 am
if BoB abandon delve then its all over, AAA just can support a war effor against goon and friends with just the resources of thier space to keep them going.
they could, most resources are underutilized in 0.0. So BoB and -A- could become good superfriends and share space for a while? -
February 05, 2009, 05:42:35 am
i dont think AAA are up for that. -
February 05, 2009, 05:58:00 am
if BoB abandon delve then its all over, AAA just can support a war effor against goon and friends with just the resources of thier space to keep them going.
People forget when Bob lived in the north and just upped and moved to Delve.
I just find it sad that failures such as IRC and Erectile Dysfunction (and the rest of napland) are crowing about how they defeated Bob. They didn't. They couldn't.
A Bob director did it.
If alliance formerly known as Bob hold Delve against the oncoming assault... what will that say?
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February 05, 2009, 06:03:03 am
it doesnt matter if bob reform under a dif name the have lost hundreds of billiions in lost suppercaps and it wont be long before you see a massive capital deployment against them. -
February 05, 2009, 06:04:18 am
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February 05, 2009, 06:16:47 am
its a good point AAA may verywell ask for a NAP and go on a massive gank against BoB. as most 0.0 alliance only support the guy they think is going to win. -
February 05, 2009, 06:17:04 am
i dont think AAA are up for that.
They were quick enough to jump into bed with BoB to try shaft goons. Depends what the choices are, if they don't think they can hold out alone, it could be help new bob get back on their feet by sheltering them, this would let bob use -a- bridges etc and ensure bob is down for a sshort a time as possible. If -a- think they can go it alone..could be a case of cya ex-superfriend -
February 05, 2009, 06:19:28 am
lol this just in my alliance has taken 1 of bobs stations lol. -
February 05, 2009, 06:22:34 am
Its not the fact the alliance died that reduces the sparkle... its HOW it happened.
That one dissatisfied person or a high level spy can remove an alliance from play, with no cooldown period, no notice... nothing. Bang... gone. That in itself removes the achievement from the NC/Goons, because they didnt really defeat BoB... they simply removed it from play, turned an assualt on Delve from a risky and hard fought proposition into one that while possibly still hard... is easy mode in comparison.
Thats what reduces the sparkle. The cesspit that is CAOD does also, but I get around that by never reading it.
As for their wealth... most of BoB's wealth is in their T2 BPO's... they will have been locked, so I very much doubt they will have been lost. Most BoB pilots are no more, or less wealthy than the rest of us.
Hell... I have billions in assets and in wallet... and I dont live in Delve... Its not the region that makes you wealthy, its what you do while you are there.
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February 05, 2009, 06:26:05 am
lol this just in my alliance has taken 1 of bobs stations lol.
Like thats hard atm -
February 05, 2009, 06:26:34 am
well right now goon are taking out titan building poses setting up there own sov and taking stations. -
February 05, 2009, 06:28:58 am
lol yeah its kinda easy its keeping them that will be hard. -
February 05, 2009, 06:34:52 am
As I said, like thats hard atm.
Its not really much of an acheivement... if BoB had been up and operational, with all sov in place those conquests would be newsworthy beyond measure.
What happened to BoB last night has effectively devalued what you achieve now. In a twisted way, its a defeat... because it took someone destroying the Alliance in a very convincing fashion to get those achievements.
Personally, I would be feeling a very bitter taste in my mouth at the moment... I would have wanted BoB to failure Cascade because my alliance or powerbloc fought them to a standstill and destroyed their willingness to continue... not because someone used one easy way to remove an entire alliances sov in one fell swoop.
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February 05, 2009, 06:39:49 am
however it was done this was BoBs failing as an alliance the fact that goon is taking advantage is just common sence if BoB had treated thier director properly then they wouldnt have had this problem. if it would cost you hundreds of billions and take years then its smart to do this to them every other 0.0 alliance is open to this kind of attack so its not unfair that it happened to BoB if they had the chance they would have lept at the opitunity todo this to goon. -
February 05, 2009, 06:48:48 am
what are you on about raknor?
It was a rage quit burn. It shows the weakness in Eve's corp/alliance interface.
Goon's are just claiming credit. -
February 05, 2009, 06:51:32 am
That one person can remove all corps from an Alliance, with no cooldown, no vote, nothing... that more than anything reveals how truly the corp/alliance interface is broken.
And at the end of the day, thats the point. The mechanic is truly wrecked... it needs fixing. if one good thing comes of this its hopefully that CCP will sit up and listen to what many people have been saying for years...
Fix the corp/alliance interface. -
February 05, 2009, 06:56:22 am
the fact that this has never happened before shows that most ppl just didnt consider doing it but but the fact that a BoB director went to goon because of the way they treated him is awesome. And yes it does suck that 1 guy can do this thats the risk every alliance takes when it hands out roles so treat your 'employes' better is a good policy. -
February 05, 2009, 09:12:01 am
Well, I wouldn't rush to any conclusions just yet.
I spoke with someone from BoB at about 07:30 GMT on teamspeak. She said:
-as far as they could tell at that time, an account had been hacked.
-They filed a petition.
-They are waiting to hear back from CCP.
-The former member corps of BoB started preparing for war last night.
So, hold your horses. Unless you've seen some kind of official posting by CCP stating that an account wasn't hacked, then I wouldn't be too quick to believe that a BoB director actually did this. According to the most recent information I have from BoB management, it's not true. Every scrap of info about this has come from goons, as far as I can tell. Do you really trust them?
Edit: Also, most of the POS's are owned by member corporations, not the alliance/shell corp. Those member corps didn't lose any assets. They still have their dreads, carriers, and titans. I'm not sure how sov works. Can a corp get sov, or only an alliance? If a corp can hold sov, then it's possible that some of those corps alrady claimed sov after downtime, since they still have POS's in those systems and those POS's have been up for more than 7 days. -
February 05, 2009, 09:42:09 am
the fact that this has never happened before shows that most ppl just didnt consider doing it but but the fact that a BoB director went to goon because of the way they treated him is awesome. And yes it does suck that 1 guy can do this thats the risk every alliance takes when it hands out roles so treat your 'employes' better is a good policy.
You can't make everyone happy dude, those alliances got a thousand plus members, its inevitable some people will be unhappy about the decisions they make and by a chance/probability it happened to be one of the directors. Now hes the only one that was angry/emoed out with BoB, you can't judge how an alliance treats their people by one dude who conspired cause he didn't have this way in whatever decisions were made. Like i said you can't make everyone happy. -
February 05, 2009, 10:01:07 am
lets attempt to keep the BoB/GOON biases out of this thread.
Thank you. -
February 05, 2009, 10:18:35 am
It is anti-climatic the way this went. I've been fighting on the NC side for some time now. Although I do find it very very funny; I was actually looking forward to months and months of hard fighting ahead with many epic battles. As I found once our logistics and what not actually began rolling in the South campaign we were getting the numbers and activity to put the hurt on. Perhaps there's still a chance for some good fights...lord knows i'll be looking for them.
Also as far as alliance/corp mechanics being changed I don't think anything needs changing. It's such a big deal in this instance because of who it was against. If some small corp/alliance gets nailed by espionage or a disgruntled director there wouldn't be 1% this amount of whining about the game mechanics. -
February 05, 2009, 11:03:20 am
it's a sad thing you know, as aid before there where some epic battles to come..
the fact that this one person can do this is a shame and should be fixed.
however i don't like bob they where great!!!
what they achieved was epic no doubt about that and they should have been conquered, but not like this.
not like this...
eve is about skill and ingenious tactics that's the beauty imo.
everybody laughs because the great bob is down but i'm not laughing at all, it's sad and nothing more imo... -
February 05, 2009, 11:23:21 am
if good come out on top of this it will be a bad day for all of eve
i hope bob come through this the n itull be funny to watch them scrap it out with goon -
February 05, 2009, 11:33:42 am
If it does turn out to be a hacked account... then the brown stuff really will hit the fan.
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February 05, 2009, 12:25:04 pm
If i was part of former BOB i would be organising the largest fleet eve had ever seen, and ripping delve a new one. They would need every server node in the game for the size and scale of onslaught i am talking about. Stuff the politics time to undock the shiny ships in one final stand. -
February 05, 2009, 01:27:42 pm
true crazyeyes09 but the main part of the problem is that there are several corps in BoB that really weren't that happy in the alliance, and have been trying to switch to Goons, so i doubt that it will ever be the same as before even if it gets reformed, and now with everyone and there dog running to claim delve it'll be a tough go for a newly formed alliance and the loss of ships in the past 24hrs for BoB members will have it's toll.
i'm sure this weekend will be interesting. -
February 05, 2009, 02:25:55 pm
No matter what happens the eve universe will never be the same . In addition to the endless speculation, expect yesterday to be a singular point in MMO history. I foresee tons of discussion on whether a single unsharded server is a good idea when player accounts are relatively easy to hack. I'm not saying thats what happened, just givimg an example of what this event will spawn. -
February 05, 2009, 02:32:31 pm
if you do a google search for "BoB is Disbanded" you will find that this is spreading to almost every forum in exsitance. I'm seeing it in tf2 forums, startrek forums, lotr, everywhere.
This is probably going to be the single largest event of the year... and its only February. -
February 05, 2009, 02:37:17 pm
yeah... i'm very sad. bob kept the n00bs and idiots and whiners out of 0.0, and now i fear with them coming in they're gonna whine and complain for every ship they lose, for every item they lose, for how unfair 0.0 is. then there's gonna be nerfs. and 0.0 is gonna be effed up forever. hopefully goon or foundation or tri or some other alliance can take their place, or this game is going to go to shit soon. -
February 05, 2009, 02:38:28 pm
yeah... i'm very sad. bob kept the n00bs and idiots and whiners out of 0.0, and now i fear with them coming in they're gonna whine and complain for every ship they lose, for every item they lose, for how unfair 0.0 is. then there's gonna be nerfs. and 0.0 is gonna be effed up forever. hopefully goon or foundation or tri or some other alliance can take their place, or this game is going to go to
soon.
wtf ??
BoB kept noobs and whiners out of 0.0 ?
Just to add some more ? :
?? -
February 05, 2009, 02:48:56 pm
there are two types of n00b/whiner. those in high-sec and those in low-sec. low-sec n00bs suck and whine but they don't petition nearly as much as the high-sec n00bs because high-sec n00bs have a 'safe' environment, and when they go to low-sec or fight griefers they think it's unfair when they get podded or whatever. high-sec whiners/n00bs are a hell of a lot worse than those in low-sec. that's what i meant. and when they come all hell is gonna break loose. -
February 05, 2009, 03:09:20 pm
I just don´t get what BoB had to do with that, hehe -
February 05, 2009, 03:24:05 pm
if it was a hac then sov would be back by now. this was a BoB director ending BoB because they treated him bad. on the positive side there are going to be some truly awesome batles as bob tries to save its supper caps by moving them into friendly systems. -
February 05, 2009, 06:16:16 pm
Ok, so apparently BoB never used Strontium for their inner POS's... the irony.
Remember the Alamo, Eve Edition? -
February 05, 2009, 06:18:19 pm
lol are you serious? well i guess they never expected those POS's to get shot... not for another decade at least. -
February 05, 2009, 06:22:31 pm
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February 05, 2009, 06:55:06 pm
CCP looked into it and the account was not hacked it was a legit action from director "Lady scarlet" just started spreading the hacked account roomer. -
February 05, 2009, 07:24:49 pm
lol are you serious? well i guess they never expected those POS's to get shot... not for another decade at least.
Yes, dead serious. -
February 05, 2009, 07:27:05 pm
All BoB need is some garlic bread.
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February 05, 2009, 09:24:44 pm
i dont see a problem.
most alliances end like this, as alganhar said the power of sov/supercaps ect. makes destroying a strong alliance with it roots down very difficult.
i think its a good thing, bob will pick up the peices, reform and come back again, just adds some spice to the current boring same old situation.
as to people getting all defensive over bob and metagaming.
we all know bob aren't the only ones who metagame, or even the biggest, however they are famous for it, and you must admit it is ironic if it was a goon (or someone elses) Spy.
as for being dev pets, this will be a good chance to show once and for all that BoB are not dev pets. however if CCP do reinstate there alliance there will be alot of complaining about it all over again xD
if it was any alliance other than bob im sure alot of people would like to see CCP give them there name/ticker back, without sov or any other effects, just the identity. however since its bob they cant do that for obvious reasons
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February 05, 2009, 10:06:57 pm
\\o \o/ o//
Just joining in on the epicness.
Hey Goons, i can fly a hulk, wanna sign me up? -
February 06, 2009, 02:18:23 am
just had to quote a funny text from some of the forums i been reading!
"So this whole storing is really about a double change of hearts? And the power of kindness tryumphing?
A scroungy goon scammer opens his heart to help out what appears to be, a young pubbie displaying fresh enthusiasm and attitude.
A malevolent bob director seeking to deceive goons finds the family and warmth among the people he wanted to destroy and realises were the real evil stands.
If only shakespeare knew about spaceships!
- Gob" -
February 06, 2009, 03:12:16 am
The Goons recruiter/scammer's story was quite funny..."OMG I recruited a BoB director, I'm so kicked!"
"This requires someone with more mental functionality than me to handle" -
February 06, 2009, 12:01:13 pm
All BoB need is some garlic bread.
And a hug -
February 06, 2009, 12:03:29 pm
lol i goon dont stront there sov 4 towers either why would you? this is the only way they can be killed. -
February 10, 2009, 05:01:33 pm
if you do a google search for "BoB is Disbanded" you will find that this is spreading to almost every forum in exsitance. I'm seeing it in tf2 forums, startrek forums, lotr, everywhere.
This is probably going to be the single largest event of the year... and its only February.
Yes, how odd. With a new expansion around the corner EvE just managed to become the most-talked about MMO in existence...
The Dev blog also originally almost revelled in the fact that news of the exploit had spread across the Media- and has since been changed.
The whole thing seems like a setup to me now. BoB as a whole may not be involved, maybe someone who was "supposedly" away defected to make this a huge story either because they were tempted by a reward, or they are already on the payroll. -
February 10, 2009, 06:43:26 pm
if you do a google search for "BoB is Disbanded" you will find that this is spreading to almost every forum in exsitance. I'm seeing it in tf2 forums, startrek forums, lotr, everywhere.
This is probably going to be the single largest event of the year... and its only February.
Yes, how odd. With a new expansion around the corner EvE just managed to become the most-talked about MMO in existence...
The Dev blog also originally almost revelled in the fact that news of the exploit had spread across the Media- and has since been changed.
The whole thing seems like a setup to me now. BoB as a whole may not be involved, maybe someone who was "supposedly" away defected to make this a huge story either because they were tempted by a reward, or they are already on the payroll.
Exploit? There was no exploit involved with BoB being disbanded. -
February 10, 2009, 07:05:51 pm
no exploits. BoB just got the massive shaft in the ass by goon... or so they say. personally i don't think it's that simple. something else is behind it all. and if it isn't well you can :censored: me running. and that is never going to happen -
February 10, 2009, 07:28:01 pm
...and if it isn't well you can
That can definitely be arranged... me running. and that is never going to happen
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February 11, 2009, 06:51:13 am
As you all know BoB are back as KenZoku and are reclaiming their sovereignty. -
February 11, 2009, 08:20:54 am
if you do a google search for "BoB is Disbanded" you will find that this is spreading to almost every forum in exsitance. I'm seeing it in tf2 forums, startrek forums, lotr, everywhere.
This is probably going to be the single largest event of the year... and its only February.
Yes, how odd. With a new expansion around the corner EvE just managed to become the most-talked about MMO in existence...
The Dev blog also originally almost revelled in the fact that news of the exploit had spread across the Media- and has since been changed.
The whole thing seems like a setup to me now. BoB as a whole may not be involved, maybe someone who was "supposedly" away defected to make this a huge story either because they were tempted by a reward, or they are already on the payroll.
Exploit? There was no exploit involved with BoB being disbanded.
Yeah, exploit... that's exactly what I was talking about... -
February 11, 2009, 08:46:35 am
The tinfoilry is strong with this one.
The.... sheer scale of this actually lends more towards it going down as purported than any other theory or tinfoil thought that may cross the Internets collective mind. Its big enough that I doubt anyone could every think of it as some kind of exploit or ccp driven thing.
Its both too simple and too large. The sheer elegance of it lends to its veracity. -
February 11, 2009, 10:30:38 am
It's simply the irony that this happened when it did. Everyone expected BoB to control hyperspace during the next patch, just to watch the Empire fall before it came out. -
February 12, 2009, 01:57:32 am
if you do a google search for "BoB is Disbanded" you will find that this is spreading to almost every forum in exsitance. I'm seeing it in tf2 forums, startrek forums, lotr, everywhere.
This is probably going to be the single largest event of the year... and its only February.
Yes, how odd. With a new expansion around the corner EvE just managed to become the most-talked about MMO in existence...
The Dev blog also originally almost revelled in the fact that news of the exploit had spread across the Media- and has since been changed.
The whole thing seems like a setup to me now. BoB as a whole may not be involved, maybe someone who was "supposedly" away defected to make this a huge story either because they were tempted by a reward, or they are already on the payroll.* simo98 hands darknemesis a tinfoil hat -
February 12, 2009, 04:11:15 am
It's simply the irony that this happened when it did. Everyone expected BoB to control hyperspace during the next patch, just to watch the Empire fall before it came out.
Wormhole space is targeted at ninja operations mostly... and they wormholes can appear anywhere... how the hell were BoB going to control them all? Goons held more space than BoB did... How were BoB supposed to control the high sec wormholes? Or the majority of the lowsec?
How are the major alliances going to control wormhole space when capitals are going to find it extremely difficult getting in... just as difficult getting out... in a place where 6 Sleeper BS can break the tank f a carrier being remote repped by two more carriers... where fueling POS's is going to be logistically difficult even for a short period of time, let alone for extended periods as wormholes collapse, shift position and new ones are formed.
No, wormhole space is actually not suited to major alliance operations as they lose all their advantages. It will benefit the wanderers, small, fast moving gangs that go in, grab what they can and get out. At the most it will be groups based around a couple of Orca's carrying HAC's, recons and a mixture of T2 frigate hulls and able to act as short term mobile bases.
No major alliance is going to dominate wormhole space, be it BoB, Goons, whoever, its not going to be possible to dominate an area of space where the exits and entrances are fluid in their location and destination.
I am looking forward to it... 0.0 without the ever present arrogance of the major alliances is going to make a refreshing change.
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February 12, 2009, 05:27:37 am
Yes. Alganhar is right. This is what CCP seem to be aiming for, and it's something that most players seem to be in favor of, including me. In stead of just adding more of what we already have in the game, they're trying to add a totally new gameplay element. This is going to be really exciting I think. The big question right now is what kind of ships and fleet size is going to work in WH space. That will really decide who can take advantage of the new content more than anything else. If all it takes are large groups of small ships, then anyone can do it. If it requires orcas then most carebear empire corps can do it. If it takes a dread or carrier that you're going to have to leave behind, then it's alliance domination once again. I don't really forsee very many capital class ships in WH space. It sounds like every inch of the new mechanics are designed to discourage cap ships and POS's in WH space. Usually it's better to play *with* the mechanics, rather than *against* them. Less than a month till we find out. -
February 12, 2009, 11:47:50 am
The tinfoilry is strong with this one.
The.... sheer scale of this actually lends more towards it going down as purported than any other theory or tinfoil thought that may cross the Internets collective mind. Its big enough that I doubt anyone could every think of it as some kind of exploit or ccp driven thing.
Its both too simple and too large. The sheer elegance of it lends to its veracity.
Those reasons themselves would make it the perfect crime.
I don't believe the government is spying on me, that the intelligence services are pointing microwaves at me etc. etc. - however I do believe that given that employees play this game and the market has collapsed, that CCP may go to certain legitimate lengths to create a stir/buzz.
It's marketing by mechanics, not tinfoil stuff.
The fact that the defector was an employee is actually the easiest of all the explainations when you break it down. -
February 12, 2009, 12:24:17 pm
The tinfoilry is strong with this one.
The fact that the defector was an employee is actually the easiest of all the explainations when you break it down.
The.... sheer scale of this actually lends more towards it going down as purported than any other theory or tinfoil thought that may cross the Internets collective mind. Its big enough that I doubt anyone could every think of it as some kind of exploit or ccp driven thing.
Its both too simple and too large. The sheer elegance of it lends to its veracity.
The by far simplest assumption, which would explain all, without any tinfoilhattery (for most sane people) would actually be that whoever did this was .. human... *gasp* -
February 12, 2009, 12:55:02 pm
Yah, case of throwing all the toys out of the pram in a tantrum
We all love our conspiracy theories, but chances are, in this case, the actual explanation is simply human nature... they upset me, lets shaft them mightily. -
February 12, 2009, 12:59:15 pm
if you do a google search for "BoB is Disbanded" you will find that this is spreading to almost every forum in exsitance. I'm seeing it in tf2 forums, startrek forums, lotr, everywhere.
This is probably going to be the single largest event of the year... and its only February.
Yes, how odd. With a new expansion around the corner EvE just managed to become the most-talked about MMO in existence...
The Dev blog also originally almost revelled in the fact that news of the exploit had spread across the Media- and has since been changed.
The whole thing seems like a setup to me now. BoB as a whole may not be involved, maybe someone who was "supposedly" away defected to make this a huge story either because they were tempted by a reward, or they are already on the payroll.* simo98 hands darknemesis a tinfoil hat
You think I'd accept something from a total stranger? Will have your germs and possibly some population controlling virus all over it.
No thanks. -
February 13, 2009, 12:47:25 pm
hehe
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