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ZMaster
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Very expensive, but also very good ... nothing to change here imo
+1
raknor bile
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it works
Sevacant
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Thanks for taking the time to look it over Z
Sevacant
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Comments for thumb down or please consider another option, thanks!.
gremwatch
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Very nice I had a good look over it and if you replace the rigs with Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard I's you get an extra 15 seconds of cap time at a much lower cost. (well with my skills at least)
Sevacant
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With the two CCCII rigs and now the PDSII, I can permarun, finally.

Good for two reasons:

a. I'm getting disconnected from EVE an ungodly amount, and with permarun don't have to worry about dying

b. I'm lazy and like ships that support laziness, ex: me minimized browsing while the ship is dealing with a BS / Structure / etc.

But if you're cycling, then I could see how the CDCS rigs would work
mad12345
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this looks like a totally awesome build. great job.
unslaught
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mmmm, a real dream-machine, looks like a awesome fit....
will keep this in mind when i'll fly one some day  ;D
thumbs up from me +1
Talidorn
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Well, my caldari alt has Marauder 5 and a HG Crystal Set.

I was a bit sad to see no TP on it.  But since you are using cruise I guess you don't need to.  And I don't know of a way to permarun with a TP anyway.

I'm running 1 more invul field and then an EM.  This gives me the lowest resist of ~75%.  I also need both CCC2s to run it this way tho.

All in all a good fit.

Thumbs up from me.
Blood
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what the hells a TP?
Sevacant
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Target Painter

If I was torping then I'd probably fit one, or use TP drones maybe.
Blood
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ah yes ok yeah it your using torps than its a must
UserX
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Nice, I have a very similar loadout that I also transferred over from my CNR. I added a few additional mods to mine as you did. I have a ball in mine so I am sure you do to. Thumbs up from me man…
Sevacant
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Yup, 4s are a breeze.
t00le
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Really nice fitting, which when added with HQ Crystals and a level v missioning/ratting character is a bit overpowered.
Lauranae
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Cruise for a Golem seems like a waste. This boat is all about torps. Possible 1300+ dps with those is simply too nice to pass by IMHO. 

IF you insist on Cruise Missiles, a similarly fitted CNR + rigors and possibly a TP, less tank (this build doesnt need all that tank for any lvl 4, especially with the Golem SB bonus p/l)and a 4th BCS can dish out more DPS and costs less. It pops Cruisers and BCs fast as hell and your mission times go down even farther.

And if you swap the X-L SB for a Pith A-Class Med SB, you can permarun it too with more than enough tank for any lvl 4 there is if you run it smart...

Nice try here, but a Golem is made for torpedoes.

-1
Sevacant
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The ship is permarun with the X-large booster, so I'm not going to switch it up. (Misread - you were referring to a CNR..)  I've run torp and cruise and I like running cruise because the majority of the time I'm going through the mission for bounties and LP, I salvage almost none of them.

After having marauders 5 for the last 6 months, and having flown both cruise and torp, I like both setups.  Torps kill close things faster, cruise kill things further, preference in the end. 

Personally I don't run lvl 4s anymore, running 5s with a rattle now so haven't been following this build.
jamy8050
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Lol, epic fail - an insult to all that is a Golem...its meant to be a beast not a pussy cat.
theronth
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-1 Golem is for torps
Sevacant
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-1 Golem is for torps


After having marauders 5 for the last 6 months, and having flown both cruise and torp, I like both setups.  Torps kill close things faster, cruise kill things further, preference in the end. 


Stop necroing ppl?

Deriel Spitfire
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You should have a TP on this anyway, or take 2 rigors.
-1
Sevacant
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This loadout has been updated
hustleman
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really shocked this got the votes it got for it. not even one target painter fitted!

i understand the reason to why it's fitted this way (mostly due to laziness and that's perfectly fine. your money after all), but wouldn't it be best to just go the way of afk domi/rattler? a huge waist to use a marauder for lazy mode when it's all about isk per hour awesomeness.
Yabba Addict
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A T1 rigor raven does 12 dps less than this, while holding the advantage of having rigors and a TP, Congratz, you've just created a hideously expensive slower way of doing missions than using a T1 bird. Sorry, but -1
Joozd
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Why fly this when you can fly a Tengu with the same DPS and twice the speed and almost the same tank with the added advantage of having a much smaller sig radius and higher speed which actually kills frigates in a few seconds and has a total price of just about the same as that shield booster alone?
Sevacant
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Why fly this when you can fly a Tengu with the same DPS and twice the speed and almost the same tank with the added advantage of having a much smaller sig radius and higher speed which actually kills frigates in a few seconds and has a total price of just about the same as that shield booster alone?

Ship fitting - Built on June 5, 2008

Oberus MacKenzie
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It makes me cringe to see a Golem that doesn't use target painters, but I guess if you just want a massive tank this would be what you use. Anybody that can perma-run XL shield boosters and still maintain some use of the ship should get a high five. Still... so much wasted torp DPS... 8*(
on3st4b
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-1 from me , do u realy need all that tank ?
i use gist-a-large booster , and 2 tp .. anyways ..
Sevacant
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A lot of ngiegrs here can't read.
hustleman
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A lot of ngiegrs here can't read.

oh come now! don't be a coward and go ahead and spell it as you intended it. take your finest white bed linens off your mattress poke a couple holes so you can see through and show us all who you really are. i'm sure your very own sister (who's laying on your bed sheets right now naked) fully agrees with me.
Sevacant
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It's censored or I would.

Also, my sister has a nice tight snatch.
yourmother
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There are a lot of people who think Golem's suck of the don't have torps but i think that's complete nonsense. The extended targeting range and extended tractor range both indicate that this ship was ment to use long-range weapons and Eve itself recommends the Cruise Missile Certificate for this ship.

Furthermore the 100% damage bonus makes faction ammo a lot cheaper and when using faction ammo two rigors are enough to blow most out of the virtual skies. Nevertheless i would drop the cap recharger for a TP just because the bonus is very nice and you are less dependent on your drones to finish off the small bugs.
Thd
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How about suicide gankers with so expensive shield booster...
Sevacant
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There are a lot of people who think Golem's suck of the don't have torps but i think that's complete nonsense. The extended targeting range and extended tractor range both indicate that this ship was ment to use long-range weapons and Eve itself recommends the Cruise Missile Certificate for this ship.

Furthermore the 100% damage bonus makes faction ammo a lot cheaper and when using faction ammo two rigors are enough to blow most out of the virtual skies. Nevertheless i would drop the cap recharger for a TP just because the bonus is very nice and you are less dependent on your drones to finish off the small bugs.


Could do.

How about suicide gankers with so expensive shield booster...

Aren't the medium boosters even more expensive?
JC Dent
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remove pds for faction pds, it gives bonus's
Mike712
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overtanked cruise golem with no target painters -1

Horrible setup.
Van Diesell
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-1
Why use faction launcher and resistant?
Seranova Farreach
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this is a good alternative to the torp golem
greengimp
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this is a good alternative to the torp golem

No this is a horrible alternative, where are the rigor rigs, where is the TP, where is 4th BCU, what is the point of 1k+ tank when a 500dps tank will do every mission.
syphonus
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have fun killing cruisers in 7 volleys. -1 bit of a thread necro it seems

PvE Golem [Faction / Complex fitting]

Sevacant's Golem built 2008-06-05

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Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Empty
Cap Recharger II
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Power Diagnostic System II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
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Yes, it uses Tech II rigs. Yes, it uses expensive faction / complex modules.

As it should.

Yes, it permaruns.
YES, it has a massive permarun tank, and it uses cruise missiles.  Get over it.  I have flown both and I like both equally.  When I want to burn through missions I fly the torp.  When I want to take things casual while I'm doing other shit I take this.  Also nice for my shitty net connection.  If you want to bash on this for not using torps, welcome to the door gtfo. This loadout is effective for what it was made for; big tank while maintaining decent dmg at all ranges.

Moving on"

With my current skills, and drones, this will push out ~ 692 DPS, 4979 volley. 

Level 5 skills ~ 721 dps, 5071 volley.

That's using faction ammo.  When you're only using 4 launchers, faction ammo is cheap enough to use, at least IMO.

The hardeners are switched out based on NPCs (I'm not a fan of using 3x Invul fields, much prefer better specific tank and less cap used).

Shield boost amount, with Marauders IV, should be ~ 1470/4s.

Level 5 skills ~ 1555/4s.

If you have a HG crystal set, then power to ya.



Targeting

Maximum targets 10
Maximum targeting range 118.75 km
Scan resolution 131.25
Sensor strength 14 0 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 125
Inertia modifier 0.081
Signature radius 450 m
Cargo capacity 1225 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 8301.56 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 6 minutes 44 seconds
Powergrid 5294 / 11262.5MW
CPU 724.75 / 893.75 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 11550
Shield recharge time 25 minutes 59 seconds
Shield resistances 37.5% 68.75% 84.07% 81.8%

Armor

Armor hit points 8375
Armor resistances 50% 10% 34.38% 58.75%

Structure

Structure hit points 9625
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 25 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 75 m3
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[Golem, PvE Golem [Faction / Complex fitting]]
Power Diagnostic System II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Cap Recharger II
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster

Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Empty

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II


Hammerhead II
Item Quantity Value
Golem 1 55,700,000
Power Diagnostic System II 1 677,400
Cap Recharger II 1 549,253
Hammerhead II 1 696,995
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field 1 5,900,000
Dread Guristas Kinetic Deflection Field 1 9,198,500
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field 1 165,000,000
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier 2 51,000,000
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 3 87,999,000
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher 4 41,996,500
Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster 1 464,201,000
Small Tractor Beam I 2 1,507,000
Salvager I 1 40,011
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II 2 57,500,000
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile 1 1,200
Total 1,353,961,359
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