Loadout: PvP Rook
PvP Rook
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Ship fitting - Built on April 21, 2008
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This is a good solo Rook, however it is best used with a pair of Rooks working together. Note that on the 2nd Rook, we use a Webifier II in the mid replacing the Warp Scrambler II.
Magnatronic Strength is 5.9 per ECM Mod x 4 mods which should be enough to keep a BS busy indefinately. Solo pilots should use a 2nd Signal Distortion Amp II in place of the BCU II to increase Gravemetric Strength to 6.9 per mod, and perhaps a Particle Dispersion Augmentor I to maximize Jam Strenght (apx 7.9). With 2 x Rooks, it's a good idea to "Tag Team" targets to prevent any holes in jamming, and maximize versatility. Slider462 offered a great thread on ECM use, i'd suggest taking a look at it if you're considering EWAR birds. Thank you Slider. The Large Shield Extender II will put shield at 5175 with 1000 sec recharge, and the Damage Control II adds 12.5 to shield resistances across the board as well as the armor/structure bonuses, which definately gives time to stay in the fight. DPS is about 325 using Faction Missles, + 10% rate of fire from Bay Loading Accellerator, not great of course, but with 2 x Rooks thats 8 Heavy Launchers so it's plenty for most targets. 1275 Cap with 198 recharge is solid and remains at 70% with all mods engaged. NP there, and it's comforting to know if things go badly there's plenty of cap to warp out. Targeting for BS is under 3 sec., and apx. 5 for cruiser size targets with the Sensor Booster II, which is augmented with a Scan Resolution Script, and easily offsets related penalties involved with fitting the Improved Cloak II. One final note, we always keep an Exotic Dancer (a quiet one), in the cargo holds for the lucky pilot who might take us down. Who knows, tit-for-tat, he might leave you you're Pod in trade.. heheh. Good Hunting. Jack Dread |
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April 21, 2008, 04:03:02 amFleet Captain
Reputation: 41
How bout a single proper rook and a hac with 600 dps? -
April 21, 2008, 04:06:33 am
Member 4th Class
Reputation: 0
We'll take you both... DPS doesn't bother us. Hac's are snacks.. heheh. No offense meant. Good flying. -
April 21, 2008, 04:07:43 am
Fleet CaptainReputation: 41
make your mate fly a hac, drop him in on targets and jam them after he's engaged, will make the killing lots faster an no need to waste lows and mids so higher jamming strength -
April 21, 2008, 04:29:47 am
Member 4th ClassReputation: 0
You're fleet Rook won't stand against this loadout, we've tested it, we fly 'em both. The Fleet Rook/Hac combination would be in trouble here i'm thinking, as we target much faster, and tank much better. The Hac is in trouble as well i'm afraid, however, we'd sure like to fly with both of you, it'd make a very nasty roaming gang for sure!
Best of luck, good hunting. Thanks for you're feedback.
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April 21, 2008, 04:43:03 am
Ensign
Reputation: 0
Magnatronic Strength is 5.9 per ECM giving nearly 24 pts per Rook, more than enough to permajam a BS, leaving the other Rook's ECM in reserve.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
ECM jammers' strengths DO NOT stack! Each jammer has a SEPERATE chance to jam a target. Therefore:
5.9 + 5.9 + 5.9 + 5.9 DOES NOT = 23.6 "total jam strength"
More like this (against cerberus with 15 point sensors):
5.9 / 15 = 0.39 = 39% (per jammer)
So,
jammer 1: 39% chance
jammer 2: 39% chance
jammer 3: 39% chance
jammer 4: 39% chance
These percentages do not stack to equal 156%. Each jammer has it's own seperate chance to jam. Obviously the more jammers (chances) you have, the better. -
April 21, 2008, 04:45:02 am
EnsignReputation: 0
It's a good idea to "Tag Team" larger targets to prevent any holes in jamming.
Like I said before, the more jammers the better. You've got that idea right.Solo pilots might switch out the BCU II for a 2nd Partical Disperson AMP II and replace the 4th ECM mod with an EM Scattering Amp II. This will increase the Magnotronic Strength to 6.9 per mod, still plenty to take out a BS, and increase EM damage resistance to 50 and rounding out overall resistances to 50 +.
With enough ECM, you wont need any other tank.The exotic dancer is for the lucky one who actually takes you down... heheh.
Kinda funny
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April 21, 2008, 05:00:42 am
EnsignReputation: 0
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April 21, 2008, 05:41:29 am
Member 4th ClassReputation: 0
Thanks Slider, point taken, however the overall effects work out about the same for Jams sake.. heheh.
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April 21, 2008, 05:45:39 am
EnsignReputation: 0
I agree. With good skills and jammers you will get plenty of successful jam cycles.
Although the chance drops as sensor strengths get higher. (Recon, covops, blackops) -
April 21, 2008, 06:49:00 am
Chief Petty Officer
Reputation: 0
[Magnatronic Strength is 5.9 per ECM giving nearly 24 pts per Rook, more than enough to permajam a BS, leaving the other Rook's ECM in reserve.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
ECM jammers' strengths DO NOT stack! Each jammer has a SEPERATE chance to jam a target. Therefore:
5.9 + 5.9 + 5.9 + 5.9 DOES NOT = 23.6 "total jam strength"
More like this (against cerberus with 15 point sensors):
5.9 / 15 = 0.39 = 39% (per jammer)
So,
jammer 1: 39% chance
jammer 2: 39% chance
jammer 3: 39% chance
jammer 4: 39% chance
These percentages do not stack to equal 156%. Each jammer has it's own seperate chance to jam. Obviously the more jammers (chances) you have, the better.
just one add on to this simple explanation from Slider.
Chances can be calculated this way.
0.39 + ((1-0.39)*0.39) + ((1-0.39)*(1-(0.39+(1-0.39)*0.39))*0.39 etc
--> 0.39 + 0.2379 + 0.1451 etc
so for the first 3 conseqent modules activation conditional probability is 0.773
It can be approximated with this probability model (math should be ok; it's been a while it is simplier to calc than to write formula ), because you need only one modul to work out. If it is worthy or not... well... it is probabilty.
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April 21, 2008, 08:15:02 am
EnsignReputation: 0
I'm too lazy for figuring probability. If it works, it works, if not try the next one lol
Nice job though walkiri. -
April 21, 2008, 08:25:29 am
Member
Reputation: 0
I really only hav 1 suggestion as a fellow jammer, i would put at least one caldari jammer and maybe a signal distortion rig instead of the missle rig. As a rook you jams are your tank. You dont really have to wry about amarr and min because of their low sensor strength. But other than that great lookin fit. thumbs up -
April 21, 2008, 02:47:51 pm
Member 4th ClassReputation: 0
I really only hav 1 suggestion as a fellow jammer, i would put at least one caldari jammer and maybe a signal distortion rig instead of the missle rig. As a rook you jams are your tank. You dont really have to wry about amarr and min because of their low sensor strength. But other than that great lookin fit. thumbs up
Nice Note Bigsleezy, thank you. -
April 21, 2008, 04:25:10 pm
Fleet CaptainReputation: 0
i say instead of 2 rooks, get a falcon and a high DPS HAC (Deimos/Vaga/Nano Sac) i personally think it will work better
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July 22, 2009, 12:16:33 am
MemberReputation: 0
Tip of the day: There are some ships faster than 200m/s. -
August 03, 2009, 11:17:28 pm
Member 5th Class
Reputation: 0
Tip of the day: There are some ships faster than 200m/s.
QuoteThis is a good solo Rook, however it is best used with a pair of Rooks working together. Note that on the 2nd Rook, we use a Webifier II in the mid replacing the Warp Scrambler II.
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August 06, 2009, 10:06:38 am
MemberReputation: 0
Ohhh my bad, I thinked "Solo" mean "Solo" ^^
Hum. The real problem of the solo rook is to catch and keep the target, so just say : Bring another rook with a webifier is a bit easy ^^
Not a bad fitting, but not a solo one
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November 25, 2009, 04:39:08 pm
Member 3rd class
Reputation: 0
I like it. I've recently joined a corp in which an E-war specialist was needed and well... I'm just that kind of guy. This set up is exactly what I'm gonna be training for in the next couple of months. Happy hunting. -
November 27, 2009, 03:00:10 am
MemberReputation: 0
Lose the cloak, lose the SBII, lose the MSEII, lose the T2 Rig.
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May 09, 2010, 06:42:58 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
The probability formula is 1-[1-(Jamm stength/sensor strength)^number of sensor modules]
So for example 1-[1-(5.9/15)^4]=0.865
So the probability that atleast one module will jamm is 86,5% -
August 26, 2010, 04:54:22 pm
Member 3rd classReputation: 1
from what iv'e seen of the rook the point seems to be less for tanking and more for avoiding damage by use of ecm...
honestly i think that if you are in a position where you are taking damage you are :censored: ed anyway.
myself i would lose the DC and replce it with another SDA.
replace cloak with another heavy launcher... i personally think cloaks are for falcons. since you wouldnt have to worry about scan resolution you could lose the sensor booster for a webber.
i would replace the CCC with a particle dispersion augmentor, it further stengthens the jamming power.
i would drop the shield extender for another webber.
+1... pretty near what my opinion of rook should be.
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August 16, 2012, 06:30:20 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Am i the only one noticing this ship has no MWD or AB???
Seems so... u guys also gona tell me it doesnt need 1??
Nice try mate... but this fit makes no sense to me! for tht u receive a -
Regards, Z
