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86Celtics
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What are you going to do once you get into the wormhole?  If running sites, you'll want to be active tanked instead.  Running sites in a cloaky loki would not be fun because your damage projection is terrible.  If pvp, this fit isn't going to work.  A Pilgrim would be more effective.  Even an Arazu gets more dps.  Cloaky lokis just aren't great pvp ships.  If you're determined to do it, you'll want more than 3 guns.
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If you don't have much cash, a loki isn't what you want to start out in; a scan frig or cov ops would be more cost-efficient.

That leads into the question "What are you doing with this fit?" You lack tackle and dps for any sort of pvp scenario, and you're not about to be very effective at pve with the tank and cloak. All it does right now is stealthily scan, and a t1/t2 frig would probably be more the right ship for the job. Thus, you should figure out what direction you want to take this.

For the pvp angle, stuff at least a scram on there. Get rid of the cap regeneration matrix (what do you need all that cap regen for?) and replace it with an aug cap reservoir, and swap the adaptive augumenter (which is an armor tank sub) for adaptive shielding (which is a shield tank sub). This allows you to fit two more guns and gives you extra powergrid so that you don't have to make those extenders faction. A mwd would probably also be more useful than an ab. You end up with something like this:
Loki, Covert shield loki

This fit gets decent dps and tank for a cloaky and is suitable for all-purpose ganking or for holding someone down 'til your buddies get there. It can also very nicely do its own scanning.


As for pve, the cloaky loki really isn't a good ship solo for that, especially since you have to stay uncloaked to actually run pve. You might be able to do decently by beefing up the tank and stripping mags and radars, but it probably isn't worth it solo. Solo pve in the lower classes can be done in a bc.
relicviper
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Thank you for everyone's input

@86Celtics & @Intagus
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"What are you doing with this fit?

I will be using it to run some sites. Saying this I have also noticed that I dont have any salvage capability and is that not the main reason to run sites is for the salvage ?

@maz3r
Thank you for the link to your fit .. I will have to spend some more time to skill to be able to fit that as my power is over its limit. I can fix it for now with a couple implants. (I'm guessing its not wise to be in a WH with an expensive clone)

And when it comes to PVP I would do the cowardly thing and run...

and not understanding what the "Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier" did was stupid of myself as well.

And from all your comments its seems that still the best Solo PVE WH ship would be a cruiser / battle cruiser ?

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also I see my mistake was that I had "Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter" wich is for armour and the fit is a shield fit ...  :idiot2:

With this change I am able to add one more Gun  :notworthy: Intagus for your fit

new stats are

88 K EHP - Shield 73K
  91.7% EM
  86.8% Therm
  80.2% Kin
  83.5% Exp

164 HP/s Passive regen

Volley 874 (HAIL ammo)
DPS 312

* still no scam ... very bad for pvp

in your opinions is this better now or shall I just cut the !@#$ and get my self a BS and get on with it ?

Loki, Loki scan / cloak fit
sysape
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For sites you want an active tank, buffer will not cut it. I'd personally go for armour, but a medium SB, sba instead of the two LSEs (Deadspace if you can afford it) would be the start. You might then need to look at sorting the cap out.
relicviper
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For sites you want an active tank, buffer will not cut it. I'd personally go for armour, but a medium SB, sba instead of the two LSEs (Deadspace if you can afford it) would be the start. You might then need to look at sorting the cap out.

Active tank ... sorry still have my head screwed on for mission running ...

Had another look at maz3r's fit seems that fit ticks all the boxes all the time. except for your armour part sysape
 
I will do the extra skilling and then just make use of that fit
sysape
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you should be active tanking missions too. Well from lvl 3 up anyway

Loki Scan & cloak fit

relicviper's Loki built 2013-09-19

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10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
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Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
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here goes .. good / bad

im very keen on getting into wormholes ... and dont really have the cash to start of with .. so im hoping this is a what would get me in that direction ..

let me know if im on the right track

thanks in advanced for any suggestions

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72.6 K EHP
Shield (55.6 K) & 114 HP/s passive
  90.3% EM
  84.5% Therm
  76.7% Kin
  80.6% Exp

Volley 590
DPS 254

Total Cost :: 424 M

Targeting

Maximum targets 5
Maximum targeting range 62.5 km
Scan resolution 375
Sensor strength 0 17 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 663.03
Inertia modifier 0.36602
Signature radius 165 m
Cargo capacity 0 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 2750 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 3 minutes 59 seconds
Powergrid 692.3 / 1125MW
CPU 713.25 / 418.75 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 9750
Shield recharge time 20 minutes 22 seconds
Shield resistances 90.29% 80.59% 76.71% 84.47%

Armor

Armor hit points 4250
Armor resistances 93.63% 42.63% 52.19% 79.28%

Structure

Structure hit points 2013.75
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 0 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 0 m3
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[Loki, Loki Scan & cloak fit]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Item Quantity Value
Loki 1 145,000,000
Gyrostabilizer II 3 727,000
Damage Control II 1 448,449
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 2 1,749,000
425mm AutoCannon II 3 1,000,000
10MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner 1 2,009
Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I 1 137,001
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II 1 4,300,000
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M 1 580
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher 1 36,795,000
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter 1 42,930,000
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer 1 41,600,100
Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier 1 39,600,100
Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration 1 44,044,100
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix 1 39,000,000
Sisters Combat Scanner Probe 1 476,000
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I 1 141,393
Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I 2 217,000
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender 2 22,700,000
Total 448,987,732
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