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Angrylemming2
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Reputation: 447

... Why rails? They'll track like shit against your main target (frigates) and do inferior DPS to other brawling destroyers. If you're going scram range like this just fit blasters, that extra range is doing you no good at all when you have such terrible range dictation and inability to stop a scram range frigate from just running rings around you.
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Algos, Algos

NOS to be used only when under neuting pressure, otherwise you're cap stable.

150mms give you more dps and better range than Electrons (which is all you'd be able to fit) with more than adequate tracking.

10k EHP, no implants required.
Ares Desideratus
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Reputation: 21

Haha, yeah you clearly need a nos to run those autocannons and drones

I've said it before and I'll say it again - if you want gank, get a Catalyst. The Algos is for tank and utility. If you aren't using that last highslot for an energy neutralizer you are doing it wrong.
Habris
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Reputation: 0

I currently fit autocannons but after an engagement last night I found the lack of speed put me at a disadvantage of actually applying said autocannon damage. So I was looking for something that would give me some damage inside scram range/outside nos range. This isn't a dps setup, but rather an alternative. Also between crap damage that actually hits and no damage at all, i'll go with the crappy damage. Ceno & Ares thanks for the constructive criticism.
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Haha, yeah you clearly need a nos to run those autocannons and drones
Because MWDs take zero cap, right?
Ares Desideratus
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Reputation: 21

Haha, yeah you clearly need a nos to run those autocannons and drones
Because MWDs take zero cap, right?
That setup is literally cap stable without the nos.
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Haha, yeah you clearly need a nos to run those autocannons and drones
Because MWDs take zero cap, right?
That setup is literally cap stable without the nos.
Correct, as I mentioned...and when you're neuted, as I mentioned, you'll want the nos.
Ares Desideratus
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Reputation: 21

Not sure if serious, but I'll go ahead and laugh anyway.
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Not sure if serious, but I'll go ahead and laugh anyway.
I think you're missing the importance of speed in pvp.
Ares Desideratus
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Reputation: 21

Not sure if serious, but I'll go ahead and laugh anyway.
I think you're missing the importance of speed in pvp.
The Algos itself has no speed worth mentioning.

Your mwd is for closing the distance, and at a distance you don't worry about losing capacitor. The only time to worry about that is once you've close the distance. But once you've closed the distance, you've already closed the distance and the scram range fight can begin. Why not try to keep it there by neutralizing your enemy's capacitor, which will actually have an outcome on the battle, rather than fitting a Nos which will likely do absolutely nothing against most of the targets you intend to engage with it, except keep your mwd running if some frigate murders your cap at range - and he'd have to be at range otherwise he'd be murder by the autos, right? Rails are better btw.

Do you fit a Nos on your Drake too? Lol.

Algos: 125mm shield buffer

Habris's Algos built 2013-01-27

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Warp Scrambler II
Medium Shield Extender II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
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fits with implants & hardwires. I know its not the brightest idea but hey wth.

DPS 109 turret(6.8 op / 6.3 falloff) cal navy am
    271 drone 2x hammerhead IIs 3xHobgoblin II's
9400ehp 3058sh/1063ar/1188st
1600m/s

its not cap stable but if you cant get the job done in the 8 mins it takes to drain the cap running full out(5m full overheat...) it's likely not to get done.

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 52.5 km
Scan resolution 625
Sensor strength 0 0 11 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 1673.44
Inertia modifier 1.92375
Signature radius 508.71 m
Cargo capacity 350 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 556.88 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 4 minutes 22 seconds
Powergrid 73.75 / 75.63MW
CPU 211.25 / 200 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 3058.28
Shield recharge time 7 minutes 48 seconds
Shield resistances 11.5% 55.75% 46.9% 29.2%

Armor

Armor hit points 1062.5
Armor resistances 57% 22.6% 44.1% 44.1%

Structure

Structure hit points 1187.5
Structure resistances 58% 58% 58% 58%
Drone bandwidth 35 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 60 m3
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[Algos, Algos: 125mm shield buffer]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I

Warp Scrambler II
Medium Shield Extender II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Empty

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Item Quantity Value
Algos 1 51
Warp Scrambler II 1 1,233,330
Medium Shield Extender II 1 566,256
Drone Damage Amplifier II 2 989,949
Internal Force Field Array I 1 8,500,000
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I 1 340,006
125mm Prototype Gauss Gun 5 115,001
Small Ancillary Current Router I 1 910,820
Small Core Defense Field Extender I 2 420,000
Total 14,945,366
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