Loadout: Bellicose: Frigates worst nightmare! !
Bellicose: Frigates worst nightmare! !
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Ship fitting - Built on December 31, 2012
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This is a frigate killer, DO NOT ENGAGE ANYBODY ELSE. Will hopefully be getting some kills with it soon. If it is capable of killing t2 or faction frigates, that will be a huge success as its probably a lot cheaper than them.
All level V Damage per second: 288 Damage Volley 806 Missile Range: 31.6km Mobility 759 m/s with afterburner switched on Capacitor depletes in 2m 2s, with MWD off its stable at 87% Resistances: 54.7% / 51% / 47.5% / 56.3% Effective HP: 17,865 Align Time: 7.9 Webifier, scrambler and afterburner should make sure no frigate will escape and the target painter makes them easier to hit and the ship gets bonuses for it so why not. Damage is accurate with drones, I just dont know how to add them x) Edit1: Nanofiber Internal Structure II removed for another Ballistic Control System II Edit2: 10MN Afterburner II removed for a 10MN Microwarpdive II Edit3: Target Painter II removed for another Stasis Webifier |
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December 31, 2012, 11:55:02 amEnsign
Reputation: 190
you have about the same ehp as most AFs and some punishers, you also have about 2x the sig. so i suspect that quite a few frigs will be able to eat this. on the flip side quite a few frigs will be mulched by this as well. give it a try and see how it goes, as you said; its cheap! -
December 31, 2012, 12:01:47 pm
Member 3rd class
Reputation: 4
you have about the same ehp as most AFs and some punishers, you also have about 2x the sig. so i suspect that quite a few frigs will be able to eat this. on the flip side quite a few frigs will be mulched by this as well. give it a try and see how it goes, as you said; its cheap!
Signature Radius makes it easier to lock and hit right? wouldn't matter if it was lower because small turrets won't miss a cruiser anyway if in range. Orbiting at 9km which shouldn't be a problem as you have an afterburner, webifier and scramber and should put most frigates out of fall-out range so their dps will decrease incredibly. Don't you think it will still beat Frigates which have the same ehp as it? -
December 31, 2012, 12:12:26 pm
Commodore
Reputation: 1661
2nd EM rig -> extender
Meta4 the Painter. -
December 31, 2012, 01:43:05 pm
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Reputation: 271
I think my Armor variant is better, and noone +1ed that either.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64041-Bellicose-De-frigger.html
Bit lower dps but it has 7k more ehp and 1 more web. -
December 31, 2012, 05:58:37 pm
Lieutenant
Reputation: 342
its unfortunate that an interceptor can still kick the ass of this just by flying faster than its missiles. Caracal has 8000m/s missiles so that won't happen, but this one doesnt
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December 31, 2012, 06:49:49 pm
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
I think my Armor variant is better, and noone +1ed that either.
Armor tank is too slow for my liking
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64041-Bellicose-De-frigger.html
Bit lower dps but it has 7k more ehp and 1 more web. -
December 31, 2012, 06:50:40 pm
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
its unfortunate that an interceptor can still kick the ass of this just by flying faster than its missiles. Caracal has 8000m/s missiles so that won't happen, but this one doesnt
They can fly more than 3000m/s with web and scrambler on them? O.o -
December 31, 2012, 07:14:13 pm
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
2nd EM rig -> extender
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?
Meta4 the Painter. -
December 31, 2012, 08:12:03 pm
LieutenantReputation: 342
its unfortunate that an interceptor can still kick the ass of this just by flying faster than its missiles. Caracal has 8000m/s missiles so that won't happen, but this one doesnt
They can fly more than 3000m/s with web and scrambler on them? O.o
I don't know why you would plan on ever going in scram range in an interceptor. Maybe in some scenarios, but everyone knows missile boats that dont have a velocity bonus on their missiles can just be MWDd to 0 dps by outrunning their missiles. All you need is 4500-5000m/s and the missiles either will be slower than you or wont be able to catch you before their flight time runs out. It's the reason the condor has trouble fighting interceptors despite being a great frigate nowadays. -
December 31, 2012, 09:09:27 pm
Master Chief Petty Officer
Reputation: 70
You do see the web and scram on this, right?
Drop the TP for another web, meta 4 both webs. Drop the nano for another BCU. Swap the AB for a micro.
I don't know how you're getting such high DPS from this. With all V and THREE instead of two BCUs, I'm getting 213. -
December 31, 2012, 10:57:18 pm
LieutenantReputation: 342
do not drop the TP. -
December 31, 2012, 11:58:12 pm
Master Chief Petty OfficerReputation: 70
do not drop the TP.
Are you serious? For solo work, you have a 51m explosion radius with furies. Almost nothing is smaller than that. Far and away speed will matter more. With a 215m/s explosion velocity you need the second web to get AB frigs, or even the faster MWD'ing frigs you've scrammed. -
January 01, 2013, 05:07:30 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
You do see the web and scram on this, right?
Target painter makes it easier to hit smaller targets and the ship gets bonuses from it? I have drones added but I didn't know how to add them (battleclinic noob =P) and why meta4 instead of 5?
Drop the TP for another web, meta 4 both webs. Drop the nano for another BCU. Swap the AB for a micro.
I don't know how you're getting such high DPS from this. With all V and THREE instead of two BCUs, I'm getting 213. -
January 01, 2013, 10:09:59 am
LieutenantReputation: 342
do not drop the TP.
Are you serious? For solo work, you have a 51m explosion radius with furies. Almost nothing is smaller than that. Far and away speed will matter more. With a 215m/s explosion velocity you need the second web to get AB frigs, or even the faster MWD'ing frigs you've scrammed.
MWDing frigs will not be MWDing when scrammed. AB frigs will die anyways, since they are painted. If they don't, they wouldn't have died either way. -
January 01, 2013, 12:56:27 pm
Master Chief Petty OfficerReputation: 70
do not drop the TP.
Are you serious? For solo work, you have a 51m explosion radius with furies. Almost nothing is smaller than that. Far and away speed will matter more. With a 215m/s explosion velocity you need the second web to get AB frigs, or even the faster MWD'ing frigs you've scrammed.
MWDing frigs will not be MWDing when scrammed. AB frigs will die anyways, since they are painted. If they don't, they wouldn't have died either way.
The radius of a target doesn't matter once it's as big as the explosion radius of the missile. With furies, you have a 51m explosion radius. Very few frigs are smaller than that. However, an AB frig will be going 1000-1500m/s before webs. A single web drops them to 400-600m/s. Explosion velocity is 215m/s. Your DPS CUTS IN HALF on these speedy targets. -
January 01, 2013, 01:05:20 pm
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
This loadout has been updated -
January 01, 2013, 04:17:53 pm
CommodoreReputation: 1661
It's less important about the painter as it is the MWD; a meta4 MWD offers better heating potential for going faster when you need to, which you will need to when hunting frigates.2nd EM rig -> extender
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?
Meta4 the Painter. -
January 01, 2013, 07:16:30 pm
Lieutenant, Junior GradeReputation: 271
2nd EM rig -> extender
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?
Meta4 the Painter.
The meta4 painter uses less cap and fitting than the T2 for exactly the same effect. -
January 02, 2013, 07:21:25 am
Commodore
Reputation: 2370
The DPS stats are inaccurate and/or deceptive. Not sure why someone felt the need to actually report the post to the moderators about this, but they weren't wrong.
You should also drop some of those tackle mods to meta 4 so you don't need CPU implants. Meta 4 is better than T2 anyway. -
January 02, 2013, 09:48:56 am
LieutenantReputation: 342
with the MWD now its looking good. -
January 02, 2013, 10:08:14 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
This loadout has been updated -
January 02, 2013, 10:09:46 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
The DPS stats are inaccurate and/or deceptive. Not sure why someone felt the need to actually report the post to the moderators about this, but they weren't wrong.
It doesn't need cpu implants to fit, example of meta 4 being better than t2?
You should also drop some of those tackle mods to meta 4 so you don't need CPU implants. Meta 4 is better than T2 anyway. -
January 02, 2013, 10:15:43 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
2nd EM rig -> extender
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?
Meta4 the Painter.
The meta4 painter uses less cap and fitting than the T2 for exactly the same effect.
Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor. -
January 02, 2013, 11:49:03 am
CommodoreReputation: 1661
Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat. -
January 02, 2013, 02:22:14 pm
Lieutenant, Junior GradeReputation: 350
Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.
Why do you argue with stupid people? -
January 02, 2013, 03:56:16 pm
CommodoreReputation: 1661
It's fun...sometimes.Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.
Why do you argue with stupid people? -
January 03, 2013, 07:52:39 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 4
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive is meta 3, what one is meta 4?Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat. -
January 03, 2013, 09:22:53 am
CommodoreReputation: 2370
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive is meta 3, what one is meta 4?Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.
No, there isn't a meta 4 one; that's what was meant. The named one.
