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saileng
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Reputation: 190

you have about the same ehp as most AFs and some punishers, you also have about 2x the sig. so i suspect that quite a few frigs will be able to eat this. on the flip side quite a  few frigs will be mulched by this as well. give it a try and see how it goes, as you said; its cheap!
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

you have about the same ehp as most AFs and some punishers, you also have about 2x the sig. so i suspect that quite a few frigs will be able to eat this. on the flip side quite a  few frigs will be mulched by this as well. give it a try and see how it goes, as you said; its cheap!
Signature Radius makes it easier to lock and hit right? wouldn't matter if it was lower because small turrets won't miss a cruiser anyway if in range. Orbiting at 9km which shouldn't be a problem as you have an afterburner, webifier and scramber and should put most frigates out of fall-out range so their dps will decrease incredibly. Don't you think it will still beat Frigates which have the same ehp as it?
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

2nd EM rig -> extender
Meta4 the Painter.
sysape
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Reputation: 1738

I think my Armor variant is better, and noone +1ed that either.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64041-Bellicose-De-frigger.html

Bit lower dps but it has 7k more ehp and 1 more web.
Warde Guildencrantz
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Reputation: 773

its unfortunate that an interceptor can still kick the ass of this just by flying faster than its missiles. Caracal has 8000m/s missiles so that won't happen, but this one doesnt :(
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

I think my Armor variant is better, and noone +1ed that either.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/64041-Bellicose-De-frigger.html

Bit lower dps but it has 7k more ehp and 1 more web.
Armor tank is too slow for my liking
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

its unfortunate that an interceptor can still kick the ass of this just by flying faster than its missiles. Caracal has 8000m/s missiles so that won't happen, but this one doesnt :(
They can fly more than 3000m/s with web and scrambler on them? O.o
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

2nd EM rig -> extender
Meta4 the Painter.
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?
Warde Guildencrantz
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Reputation: 773

its unfortunate that an interceptor can still kick the ass of this just by flying faster than its missiles. Caracal has 8000m/s missiles so that won't happen, but this one doesnt :(
They can fly more than 3000m/s with web and scrambler on them? O.o

I don't know why you would plan on ever going in scram range in an interceptor. Maybe in some scenarios, but everyone knows missile boats that dont have a velocity bonus on their missiles can just be MWDd to 0 dps by outrunning their missiles. All you need is 4500-5000m/s and the missiles either will be slower than you or wont be able to catch you before their flight time runs out. It's the reason the condor has trouble fighting interceptors despite being a great frigate nowadays.
barnn
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Reputation: 545

You do see the web and scram on this, right?

Drop the TP for another web, meta 4 both webs. Drop the nano for another BCU. Swap the AB for a micro.

I don't know how you're getting such high DPS from this. With all V and THREE instead of two BCUs, I'm getting 213.
Warde Guildencrantz
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Reputation: 773

do not drop the TP.
barnn
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Reputation: 545

do not drop the TP.

Are you serious? For solo work, you have a 51m explosion radius with furies. Almost nothing is smaller than that. Far and away speed will matter more. With a 215m/s explosion velocity you need the second web to get AB frigs, or even the faster MWD'ing frigs you've scrammed.
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

You do see the web and scram on this, right?

Drop the TP for another web, meta 4 both webs. Drop the nano for another BCU. Swap the AB for a micro.

I don't know how you're getting such high DPS from this. With all V and THREE instead of two BCUs, I'm getting 213.
Target painter makes it easier to hit smaller targets and the ship gets bonuses from it? I have drones added but I didn't know how to add them (battleclinic noob =P) and why meta4 instead of 5?
Warde Guildencrantz
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Reputation: 773

do not drop the TP.

Are you serious? For solo work, you have a 51m explosion radius with furies. Almost nothing is smaller than that. Far and away speed will matter more. With a 215m/s explosion velocity you need the second web to get AB frigs, or even the faster MWD'ing frigs you've scrammed.

MWDing frigs will not be MWDing when scrammed. AB frigs will die anyways, since they are painted. If they don't, they wouldn't have died either way.
barnn
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Reputation: 545

do not drop the TP.

Are you serious? For solo work, you have a 51m explosion radius with furies. Almost nothing is smaller than that. Far and away speed will matter more. With a 215m/s explosion velocity you need the second web to get AB frigs, or even the faster MWD'ing frigs you've scrammed.

MWDing frigs will not be MWDing when scrammed. AB frigs will die anyways, since they are painted. If they don't, they wouldn't have died either way.

The radius of a target doesn't matter once it's as big as the explosion radius of the missile. With furies, you have a 51m explosion radius. Very few frigs are smaller than that. However, an AB frig will be going 1000-1500m/s before webs. A single web drops them to 400-600m/s. Explosion velocity is 215m/s. Your DPS CUTS IN HALF on these speedy targets.
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

This loadout has been updated
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

2nd EM rig -> extender
Meta4 the Painter.
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?
It's less important about the painter as it is the MWD; a meta4 MWD offers better heating potential for going faster when you need to, which you will need to when hunting frigates.
sysape
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Reputation: 1738

2nd EM rig -> extender
Meta4 the Painter.
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?

The meta4 painter uses less cap and fitting than the T2 for exactly the same effect.
Widdershins
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Reputation: 3098

The DPS stats are inaccurate and/or deceptive. Not sure why someone felt the need to actually report the post to the moderators about this, but they weren't wrong.

You should also drop some of those tackle mods to meta 4 so you don't need CPU implants. Meta 4 is better than T2 anyway.
Warde Guildencrantz
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Reputation: 773

with the MWD now its looking good.
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

This loadout has been updated
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

The DPS stats are inaccurate and/or deceptive. Not sure why someone felt the need to actually report the post to the moderators about this, but they weren't wrong.

You should also drop some of those tackle mods to meta 4 so you don't need CPU implants. Meta 4 is better than T2 anyway.
It doesn't need cpu implants to fit, example of meta 4 being better than t2?
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

2nd EM rig -> extender
Meta4 the Painter.
Why meta4 painter when techII is cheaper?

The meta4 painter uses less cap and fitting than the T2 for exactly the same effect.

Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.
godsapples
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Reputation: 1667

Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.

Why do you argue with stupid people?
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.

Why do you argue with stupid people?
It's fun...sometimes.
Plain Ownag3
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Reputation: 4

Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive is meta 3, what one is meta 4?
Widdershins
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Reputation: 3098

Capacitor is stable with MWD off anyway, no need to pay more to save a bit of capacitor.
Still, meta4 the MWD for better heat.
Experimental 10mn Microwarpdrive is meta 3, what one is meta 4?

No, there isn't a meta 4 one; that's what was meant. The named one.

Bellicose: Frigates worst nightmare! !

Plain Ownag3's Bellicose built 2012-12-31

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Stasis Webifier II
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Large Shield Extender II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
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This is a frigate killer, DO NOT ENGAGE ANYBODY ELSE. Will hopefully be getting some kills with it soon. If it is capable of killing t2 or faction frigates, that will be a huge success as its probably a lot cheaper than them.

All level V
Damage per second: 288
Damage Volley 806
Missile Range: 31.6km
Mobility 759 m/s with afterburner switched on
Capacitor depletes in 2m 2s, with MWD off its stable at 87%
Resistances: 54.7% / 51% / 47.5% / 56.3%
Effective HP: 17,865
Align Time: 7.9

Webifier, scrambler and afterburner should make sure no frigate will escape and the target painter makes them easier to hit and the ship gets bonuses for it so why not.

Damage is accurate with drones, I just dont know how to add them x)

Edit1: Nanofiber Internal Structure II removed for another Ballistic Control System II
Edit2: 10MN Afterburner II removed for a 10MN Microwarpdive II
Edit3: Target Painter II removed for another Stasis Webifier

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 53.125 km
Scan resolution 375
Sensor strength 0 14 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 1999.4
Inertia modifier 0.34425
Signature radius 946.92 m
Cargo capacity 315 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 1245 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 5 minutes 20 seconds
Powergrid 572.95 / 718.75MW
CPU 459 / 450 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 5031.25
Shield recharge time 15 minutes 37 seconds
Shield resistances 54.72% 56.25% 47.5% 51%

Armor

Armor hit points 1500
Armor resistances 66% 23.5% 36.25% 44.75%

Structure

Structure hit points 1875
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 40 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 40 m3
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[Bellicose, Bellicose: Frigates worst nightmare! !]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Microwarpdrive II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I


Item Quantity Value
Bellicose 1 9,200,000
Warp Scrambler II 1 1,233,330
Stasis Webifier II 2 888,879
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II 4 876,489
Damage Control II 1 467,386
Large Shield Extender II 1 909,898
10MN Microwarpdrive II 1 3,899,450
Ballistic Control System II 3 850,000
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I 2 119,615
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I 1 152,777
Total 23,935,785
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