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Rebeca
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i was once told here in the BC that CCC's are better than Semiconductor memory cell's, it's actually a good shield fit ( and everyone know that i don't like them) but i still prefer the armor tank setup, it have less DPS (almost 1k)but is cheaper, have a prop module  and enough tank to run missions against any type of Rat as any Drone boat should be.
Asghaad
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you might want to go little less cheapass on hardeners, pith/gist C-types specifics are pretty cheap nowadays, even B-types can be found for +-30 mil per piece

otherwise this should work fine, +1 from me (and i soooo wished to get you back for that pointless -1 for my arty Maelstrom fit ... :) )


PS id also reccomend to use Plutonium ammo, only little less dps, but optimal more in line with Gardes ( 52+39 guns, 49+12 gardes)

did i -1 your fit? oopsss. i must have been drunk :) sorry.. you should have pmed and told me, why did you -1.. sorry about that.

as for the hardeners, sure i could but i can tank any missions as it is so i see it as pointless but yes, if you want more tank if you are worried that is a very good alternative for sure.
Asghaad
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did i -1 your fit? oopsss. i must have been drunk :) sorry.. you should have pmed and told me, why did you -1.. sorry about that.

as for the hardeners, sure i could but i can tank any missions as it is so i see it as pointless but yes, if you want more tank if you are worried that is a very good alternative for sure.

i didnt need to Pm you, i knew why you did that. We argued in AC nonpropmod fit, i reccomended to OP to fit propmod or go for arties (and linked my fit), got into argument over usefullness of ACs on slow boat with you and voila -1 magically appeared :)

alexandre
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Reputation: 155

This needs pith B-A type hardners at least, for B-EM/A-THERM and C-type should work for everything else but seriously with just one TE on 425-s you think that would actually output the dps you listed, I would think that you hit that turret dps potential in a vary narrow range of 45km +10km/-5km range. if you expect to shoot at BC/BS only of course the range would be larger

Under 15 km yes the guns dont hit for crap, I totally agree. But at the normal engagement ranges they hit just fine. I do have tracking implant as well in my head.

And no it doesnt need deadspace hardeners, will it be better with? yes of course, but it doesnt NEED them.

well i fixed the -1 for you btw.. it doesnt deserve a -1. Sorry about that. I cant remember the argument but i take your word for it :) still it shouldnt have a -1. So fixed with my apologies.
Dee Vicious
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if you go with 5 X 350s can you lose the smc rigs? and if so how much range and dps do you lose?
Looks good either way to me
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hmm -1 for not agreeing with deadspace hardeners. sure i can live with that.

well the smc rigs are there for the cap not for fitting Dee, you get extra cap buffer for when you need to run the booster. so the only reason to use 350s would be if you want the extra tracking. which tbh i dont think you need with a drone boat. the gardes can pop incomming frigates no prob and should say spider drones get close just use the hobs for a few, they murder them quick with the dps they get.
Dee Vicious
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hmm -1 for not agreeing with deadspace hardeners. sure i can live with that.

well the smc rigs are there for the cap not for fitting Dee, you get extra cap buffer for when you need to run the booster. so the only reason to use 350s would be if you want the extra tracking. which tbh i dont think you need with a drone boat. the gardes can pop incomming frigates no prob and should say spider drones get close just use the hobs for a few, they murder them quick with the dps they get.

my bad, was thinking ancillary current router rigs.
yeah i've been using a armor domi in low/null ratting for a long time but considering switching to shield since inferno. I know on the armor domi it's hard to fit 425s, but this looks good for what I need.
alexandre
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Reputation: 155

hmm -1 for not agreeing with deadspace hardeners. sure i can live with that.

well the smc rigs are there for the cap not for fitting Dee, you get extra cap buffer for when you need to run the booster. so the only reason to use 350s would be if you want the extra tracking. which tbh i dont think you need with a drone boat. the gardes can pop incomming frigates no prob and should say spider drones get close just use the hobs for a few, they murder them quick with the dps they get.

I really think B types are a must or post doing Angel extravaganza video with this fit and I will change rating :)
Icayna
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Reputation: 17

This is an interesting setup but I'm pretty sure there's a more efficient way to produce these stats cheaper?
Is that a valid complaint around here? I'm more yarrbear than carebear.

Thing is with b type explosives your angel tank only increases to 462. hardly worth it but since it seems to be the general consensus.. :) so updated by popular request :)

ok i did check the price online for those hardeners, ok for those really cheap prices I gladly admit, put them on. I had a memory of them being a lot more expensive. so learned something today and am getting a few of em myself for various ships
alexandre
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Reputation: 155

as promised I changed my rating to +1
knight rider
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Reputation: 29

Very similiar to the one I posted some month before inferno. I've tweaked this a bit since that. The way to do it is: one drone control range rig, CA-implants, 425 full rack. Alternatively crystals and mix in a tracking computer.

Awesome boat.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/60541-Dominix-navy-issue-Inferno-PVE.html

Mr Antisocial
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Reputation: 7

Not what I expected, but I guess it would work. Few shield implants/ cap implants would help out a bunch.

It works just fine. Does angel extra bonus room so.. cant say I expect more from a mission ship :) high dps and enough tank. I must say i enjoy it more then the mach i used to fly (yeah i am lazy and having to move is annoying) :)
Khiren
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+1 rock solid for PVE
oGBrien
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What would you fill the two slots taken by Omnis if you are using ogres?
Astroniomix
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What would you fill the two slots taken by Omnis if you are using ogres?
Please stop necroing fits. (especially just to ask stupid questions)

You would keep the omnis even if you were using ogres for some odd reason.

DOnt use ogres :) Specially with the upcomming changes to the mission AI. but yeah i would keep the omnis or one omni and one drone movement thingy (see how often i use heavies)
icows
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get rattlesnake its way better 200 missle dps is like 400 railgun dps due missle being specific damage type and not worry about tracking lost.

No a rattlesnake is not way better. It has less dps, more tank yes but who cares about that?
Budillu
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Just tried this and am loving it. +1
mrdumdum
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you only have 1 drone range, you need 2 for like 20% of the missions. also, you can say that cruise missle has range advantage and it does perfect damage from 0km to 150km. rails only do good damage from 25km to 60km. and its basically 300 cruise missle dps at any range any damage type vs 450 railguns  dps below 50km with thermal/kin damage. also, you dont need so much resist mod on the rattlesnake so you can fit a 3rd omnidirectional giving more range and tracking for the drones and a microwarp drive for gate travels.

so rattlesnake with 1 less resist mod has better tank then dominix due to bonus and super high shield hp. the sentry drones track better and hit farther ( 3 omni vs 2 on domi) and drones can hit anything you can lock in (102km). The dps is the same from 0km to 102km which is over 1k unlike domi where you get full dps under 60km.

drone range? I NEVER had an issue with being unable to shoot with the drones. Everything has spawned within their range. *shrugs*

3rd omni would be nice but it isnt THAT nice, stacking penalties and all. And gardes with 2 fed navy omnies already crush frigates that are comming towards you and in the rare cases a flight of hobs will murder them in seconds.

So, pick the ship you like. this isnt really a good thread for navy domi vs rattler. if you want a rattler, pick that. personally i wouldn't. but to each their own :) I just hate having to count missile waves.
Randy Wray
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Reputation: 719

no

Dominix Navy Issue: Inferno carebear

Spaceship
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Pith B-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Modulename
Drones and hardeners are mission specific of course, carry antimatter and one long range ammo. I tend to use Uranium myself based on the missions I get, but frankly antimatter is your go to ammo.

Tank is enough for even angel extravaganza IF you do it correctly, ie, kite away, kill the towers first and then work your way down. Possible you might have to warp off once so if you are worried just orbit your sentries ok?

No implants needed which is a bonus so go wild with the usual gunnery ones and such.

437 dps with antimatter from the guns at 41+39km

garde II gives 692DPS. so a total of 1129DPS. not to shabby.

tank against angel is 462

guristas 498

and serpentis 425

and tank lasts 4mins 12 seconds with anti matter loaded. Which tbh is more then enough.

Yes this fit means you NEED good skills, if you cant use the mods listed, i wouldnt bother and just use a cap boosted or an armour setup. But if you know how to pull the missions and you have good skills it is really a nice boat. I didnt list sansha and blood as tbh i wouldnt use this boat against them (i have my nightmare for those so this is just a backup).

And no the fed navy omni links are cheap.. 60 mill in jita these days if you put up a buy order. 95 on sell last i checked. That isnt to much for what they do and drones are your major source of damage.

EDIT> by popular demand put in b type hardeners. Ill agree they are cheap and gives a nice boost, while they are not needed I can see the benefit of having to sweat a bit less :) See I am not .. that stubborn.. ask my husband.. nooo dont ask him!!! please... I beg you?

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 87.5 km
Scan resolution 112.5
Sensor strength 0 0 27 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 137.5
Inertia modifier 0.081
Signature radius 455 m
Cargo capacity 675 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 10456.02 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 13 minutes 45 seconds
Powergrid 10558 / 13750MW
CPU 796.5 / 825 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 11875
Shield recharge time 42 minutes 22 seconds
Shield resistances 30% 91.9% 58% 44%

Armor

Armor hit points 13750
Armor resistances 50% 10% 35% 35%

Structure

Structure hit points 13750
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 125 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 400 m3
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[Dominix Navy Issue, Dominix Navy Issue: Inferno carebear]
Tracking Enhancer II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Pith B-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link

425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hobgoblin II
Warden II
Garde II
Bouncer II
Item Quantity Value
Dominix Navy Issue 1 450,992,000
Uranium Charge L 1 38
Antimatter Charge L 1 190
Tracking Enhancer II 1 639,874
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 1 1,749,000
Hobgoblin II 1 299,999
425mm Railgun II 5 3,900,000
Drone Damage Amplifier II 3 900,000
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer 3 91,127,300
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster 1 93,790,000
Pith B-Type Explosive Deflection Field 2 4,287,000
Drone Link Augmentor II 1 1,048,900
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I 3 12,780,100
Warden II 1 1,122,100
Garde II 1 1,100,000
Bouncer II 1 1,158,900
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link 2 37,400,000
Total 969,197,200
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