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Widdershins
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A pretty reasonable fit actually, all told.

If you have a little extra money I'd make that a T2 burst aerator and add a tracking, tank, or falloff rig instead of the collision. Note that with a field extender you won't need to have a powergrid implant.

It's also worth mentioning that that's a 1% implant only if you have perfect fitting skills, including projectile rigging 5. Otherwise it's going to be at least 2%.

Oh and the MWD should be an Experimental, gives you better cap life.

In fact, Experimental MWD reduces the requirements for your implant by 1%...
Xaine25
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You are a beautiful man.

More expensive, but you gain alot more EHP with the Field Extendor and the T2 burst, and lose 1 DPS.
Widdershins
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I might swap the launcher to a HML or something, but if you gave this to me I'd fly it as is.
Astroniomix
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Thanks for posting this. CBA to find the one gabe posted and needed an example of why the 220 vaga > 425 vaga.
Amber Thetawaves
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seems legit, although i'd fit a neut in that last slot, saved me a bunch in the past

plus wun
Widdershins
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425 vaga is crap because the challenge of fitting 425's on this ship is such that it actually gimps your fit way beyond what it would be if you just stuck to 220s.
Darc Clan
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seems legit, although i'd fit a neut in that last slot, saved me a bunch in the past

plus wun

I second this
Widdershins
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seems legit, although i'd fit a neut in that last slot, saved me a bunch in the past

plus wun

I second this

Requires 3% powergrid implant. If you're okay with this then so be it. I stay away from the damn things myself.
dA_hAmbUrglA
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seems legit, although i'd fit a neut in that last slot, saved me a bunch in the past

plus wun

I second this
Thirded, worth buying a +3% implant to fit a neut imo
505thedude
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Yes.
+1.
Haellena
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Definitely worth putting the neut in. That said, I'm off to buy me 5 of these things.
Douglas Reynholm
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vagabond without a neut is a very silly thing
Not Posting
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425 vaga is crap because the challenge of fitting 425's on this ship is such that it actually gimps your fit way beyond what it would be if you just stuck to 220s.

Really?

What's more of a gimp? Less tank/speed or no Neut?
Xaine25
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Just a quick word on the Neut discussion.

The beauty of this ship, is that you can dictate range.

If you need to, you can go back out to 15k and sit out of Medium neut/web range. You still get decent DPS/Falloff with Barrage and you're fast enough to keep them at arms length. If you're using a medium neut, that becomes a wasted slot and the extra DPS from the HAML looks very tasty at that moment.

This fit (and ship generally) in my opinion is really not meant for brawling. Keep them away, wear them down.

In a gang situation it might be a different story, but i'd still take the HAML. Personal preference. :)
Astroniomix
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Just a quick word on the Neut discussion.

The beauty of this ship, is that you can dictate range.

If you need to, you can go back out to 15k and sit out of Medium neut/web range. You still get decent DPS/Falloff with Barrage and you're fast enough to keep them at arms length. If you're using a medium neut, that becomes a wasted slot and the extra DPS from the HAML looks very tasty at that moment.

This fit (and ship generally) in my opinion is really not meant for brawling. Keep them away, wear them down.

In a gang situation it might be a different story, but i'd still take the HAML. Personal preference. :)
The neut is to shut down ceptor mwds so you can proceed with the killage.
Xaine25
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Thats a good point.

I never actually had a problem with Ceptors 1v1.. i just burned directly away from them before they got into scram range, so they were directly chasing me = no transversal = Dead in a few volleys.

If i had a scram on me at, not a long point, i'd shut their MWD off anyway and rape them.

However, its a very valid argument for the neut - if not a little niche.
Widdershins
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425 vaga is crap because the challenge of fitting 425's on this ship is such that it actually gimps your fit way beyond what it would be if you just stuck to 220s.

Really?

What's more of a gimp? Less tank/speed or no Neut?

Tank and speed of course.

Seriously, what this forum doesn't need is inexperienced EFT warriors claiming to know everything about ship fitting. The 425mm Vagabond might seem really great to you on paper, but it just isn't good in practice.


Thats a good point.

I never actually had a problem with Ceptors 1v1.. i just burned directly away from them before they got into scram range, so they were directly chasing me = no transversal = Dead in a few volleys.

If i had a scram on me at, not a long point, i'd shut their MWD off anyway and rape them.

However, its a very valid argument for the neut - if not a little niche.

Actually, fitting a neut isn't niche on the Vagabond, it's just about the gold-standard. It's going to do you a lot more good than a HAM is, even more good than a HML (which is more useful than the assault launcher).
Douglas Reynholm
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currently mindblown by anyone thinking a ham is a worth while high slot over a medium neut.

really, stick to what you know - a ham.. really?!
Proximo Khan
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So given the use of the neut for the Interceptor or other quicker frigate, wouldn't it be more efficient to use a small neut?

Vagabond - Gank over Tank (702 DPS - 26.8k EHP)

Xaine25's Vagabond built 2012-06-24

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220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
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My trusty "i'm going to molest your face before you can blink" Vagabond.

Its also pretty cheap (relatively).

DPS - Cold/Hot - Opti/FallOff

EMP: 623/702  -  1.8/27
Bar: 524/589 -   3.5/41 (lol)

With 5x HobGobs

Thats with 220s and 2x tracking enhancers, so alot of that will stick.


EHP: 26.8k

Cap: 1m 57s with everything on, stable at 83% without the MWD.

Align in 4.6 (6.6 with MWD)

2,7k M/S (3.8 with the MWD hot)

Orbit right up close, or at 30km depending on what you're fighting. (Swap the point accordingly)

If you know what you can/can't engage, you can't really make an error. Orbit, and watch your guns absolutely shred the poor bastard.

HAML vs Neut: Discussion in the comments, but i'll TL;DR my opinion - Quite alot of the time you have to sit outside medium neut range to be safe. You can do that and do decent DPS with this fit. Neut becomes a wasted slot, i'd rather take the DPS of the HAML for versatility.

Thoughts and comments very welcome. :)

EDIT: Mistake. :)

EDIT: Updated with suggestions.

Targeting

Maximum targets 6
Maximum targeting range 87.5 km
Scan resolution 412.5
Sensor strength 0 21 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 2708.36
Inertia modifier 0.28662
Signature radius 1033.02 m
Cargo capacity 460 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 1125 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 3 minutes 3 seconds
Powergrid 991.7 / 1125MW
CPU 394 / 500 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 10062.5
Shield recharge time 15 minutes 37 seconds
Shield resistances 75% 50% 40% 60%

Armor

Armor hit points 1750
Armor resistances 90% 10% 25% 67.5%

Structure

Structure hit points 980
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 25 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 25 m3
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[Vagabond, Vagabond - Gank over Tank (702 DPS - 26.8k EHP)]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Warp Disruptor II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin II
Item Quantity Value
Vagabond 1 145,869,000
Gyrostabilizer II 2 648,998
Tracking Enhancer II 2 640,000
Hammerhead II 1 638,920
Hobgoblin II 1 414,715
Nanofiber Internal Structure II 1 261,289
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II 5 1,099,990
Warp Disruptor II 1 1,139,950
Large Shield Extender II 2 909,898
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive 1 15,221
Barrage M 1 123
Republic Fleet EMP M 1 699
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II 1 963,998
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II 1 5,200,000
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I 1 1,790,000
Total 166,191,657
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