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• Derth Ramir

  April 26, 2012, 06:04:07 am

  
  

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• vega27

  April 26, 2012, 06:10:07 am

  
  

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  Some Kills with this fit.
  
  http://exhale.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13158673
  http://exhale.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13158679
  http://exhale.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12690589
  
  It works, and frankly all you need is a cloak and bouble and youd get the same outcome the point is it works great in w-space for me.  This fit was made because I hated having empty slots that could have been used for something, and my FC would always put me in situations where having a cloak and double bouble work out great. First two KM's demonstrate having to deal with fights on two sides of a wh and being cloaked up one side ready to bouble the opposite side and jump back and bouble original side. Anything Else is to help you KM whore more or try to mitigate dmg untill your backup arrives.
  
  Dual Prop LOL  - if you get scram'd/neut still go 600m/s  on civi ab (overheat it and its as good as a normal AB. Also Civi AB has very low GJ activation. Why put a web when other tackle/dps will do that anyway.
  
  Shield Extender has dual roles. a heat sink for overheating prop. Some tank becuase you can.
  
  
  This fit is meant to be used with a fleet w/ backup. Who cares about your scan res. A light dictor in wspace catch & cause chaos ...other ships play there roles .
  
  If anything is going anywhere  most likely jumping back across a wh or are bouble immune anyway.
  
   All about getting your bouble on -> killmail whoring -> rinse repeat while chain collapsing.
  
  Thats it.
• forever49x

  April 26, 2012, 06:10:32 am

  
  

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  cloak and no SB? 2 rockets and 2 laser vs 4 rockets with bonus? civi ab? speeds is its tank I but your sig will be BC or BS size . defender missiles still dont work right(sadly). auto lock?? just pay attention and lock who you want/need to. unless ammo is a big issue for you, auto cannons will save you on cap and probably do more dps that the lasers. plus save on cpu etc
  
  trying to do EVERYTHING is 95% of the time failing at them, especially with a combat ship.
• Haellena

  April 26, 2012, 06:18:23 am

  
  

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  I... Wha-...
  
  Lemme tell you... I don't fly dictors. I use them for target practice, but this is complete Her-...
  
  
  
  Good troll, OP. Almost fell for it.
• vega27

  April 26, 2012, 06:44:25 am

  
  

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  This loadout has been updated
• Khaine

  April 26, 2012, 06:48:45 am

  
  

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  Yeah nah what the :censored: ?
• Dexter_Xioo

  April 26, 2012, 08:35:22 am

  
  

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  Get a sabre
• vega27

  April 26, 2012, 09:27:13 am

  
  

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  I have a true love for the Heretic. And Amarr ships in general. Sabre has different slot layout which just cant be applied the same way plus its got lots of great fits. What there isnt much of is heretic fits(especially for wormholes).
  
  If you are double bouble cloak fit, there is nothing you can do to get around scan res nurf.
  If you get too close you risk keeping attention on yourself (when you dont want it) so going in up close isnt always the case you want to be in. (you can only really act on one person up close so whats the point of webs,full rack rockets)
  If you are too close you are not getting out of your bouble and risk killing yourself if you cant cloak/get off the battle field.
  
  I'd rather be in the heretic that the enemy writes off as useless and be ignored and be free to force people to fight, and cause as much chaos and confusion as possible. The annoying part about wspace is catching your prey.   
  
  Everyone is entitled to there op, I just wish ppl would post more critque points or ask questions instead of just flaming. Seriously try the fit out, IN a wormhole small gang-gank setup. Its interesting enough,  you just have to keep in mind how its used in wormholes and gank situations. Espcially when you inevitablly have to cross WormHoles anyway. It works both in armor or shield fleets and wont really hurt itself in whs with different effects. 
  
  This ship makes more sense when you accept the sabre being better and only use this ship as a utility to get you more kills and keep the suicidal light dictor pilot happy with getting on more km's. (You wouldn't believe how many km's ive missed out on because the person/gang gave up and didnt try to warp out and i was already burnning out and/or warped out as  the fleet lands to kill.
  
  The psychological bomb(when ppl are lazy and dont watch dscan or are scrubs) of getting caught and one being dropped on you is shocking enough (when your not expecting it in wormhole land.) from what I've seen in wspace once the bouble goes up ppl fight or are too busy freaking the :censored: out to act or scramble to jump to safety (or so they think)
  
  
  This just goes to say it doesnt matter whats fit to the ship as long as you got enough boubles a cloak and enough balls to fly.
  
   
• Khaine

  April 26, 2012, 09:41:07 pm

  
  

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  DOUBLE BUBBLE! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! DOUBLE BUBBLE!!
  
  I think the faction shield extender is a little much for sure. Same with a deadspace MWD. T2 rigs are a bit much.. And wtf civ AB?
• vega27

  May 01, 2012, 12:44:26 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Khaine on April 26, 2012, 09:41:07 pm

  DOUBLE BUBBLE! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! DOUBLE BUBBLE!!
  
  I think the faction shield extender is a little much for sure. Same with a deadspace MWD. T2 rigs are a bit much.. And wtf civ AB?
  

  
  The Faction Shield extender is the linch-pin on the basic fit that allows you a nice buffer tank to go on top as a cherry to the double bubble /cloak fit. If your in wspace, you should be space rich and able to afford this. In my eyes this is slightly pricey but most ppl can man up and buy it.
  
  The Dead Space MWD was CHEAP on the market. that said, its got a significantly lower sig boost than meta 1/tech 2 and the cpu/pg are more forgiving (sorta). You can fit tech 2/meta 1/experimental prop. (the faction shield extenders additional sig boost can be countered by using the deadspace mwd that still has a lower percentage of sig rate it boost when cycled on vs tech 2 which gives you a nasty 500% sig radious boost
  
  Civi After Burner- Why? Because what else could you put on there to be beneficial (and fit in the tight cpu) without throwing yourself at really close range. Why not something to help you escape if your scrammed/neut'd down and just so close from getting out of your own bubble. That civi ab has REALLY Low GJ Activation, doesnt eat up much CPU/PG and its just tits. Seriously, with the tech II rigs and over drives you can hit some decent speed (600m/s ~ +)... over heat it and you nearly match a t1 afterburner. You could also think about it this way, you now have an option instead of no option for speed should you ever be in a situation where your scram'd/neut'd or in a tight spot where jamming on your MWD would make it easyier for ppl to target you before you can pop cloak. You have Options!
  
  Another situation, you got a volley of missile's coming at you, they are heavy missiles(normally).... and your MWD on... you are signing your death certificate if those missiles hit you with your sig the size of a cruizer/bc... ( You cant out run the missiles either-way, soooooo must get creative!)
  What do you do if you cant cloak your a sitting duck and you want a chacne to live ... or live longer... buying time till backup arrives. You can cycle off your MWD and pop your Civi AB and reduce the dmg taken... and maybe pop off a few lucky Defender missiles for shits n giggles. Theoretically you should be taking less dmg and you just bought your self more time while your fleets still in warp.  Congratulations you now have Dual Prop light Dictor LoL.
   
  
  I like options and I dont like being on a one track mind. The Heretic once you stop trying to apply basic *cosmetic* advantages over the sabers fitting window vs itself you realize all the hictors still do the same job and its up to you to customize it for specific uses instead of over generalized nullsec practices.
  
  My Fit is for [Covertly or Not] Deploying Bubbles -> Cause chaos and distract a fleet (KM Whoring) -> Get-Out/Cloak up  ->  return to Deploying MOAR Bubbles -> Moar KM Whoring -> Escape to live another day or by this time an enemy fleets ignoring you because they are "Locked into battle" and are fighting the higher threat targets... or too busy trying to please consider another option, thanks!ut of a bubble. Leaving you free to analyize the battle field and pick your next most effective bubble vector to keep the enemy committed to the battle.
  
  
  If warp Disruption probes once deployed actually counted as an aggressive act and put you on the kM, instead of hoping ppl try to warp  while the probe animation is still visibly up (most ppl give up once inside and fight anyway and dont initiate a warp) then you all could give me more shit, but as it stands Wormholes and dictor pilots are a very suicidal combination, thus max whoring is needed to keep doing it (atlast for me)
• Khaine

  May 02, 2012, 04:39:13 am

  
  

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  MWD = 65 mill
  Extender = 23 mill.
  
  I'll concede on the extender. it's not TOO much, but the MWD is imho.
  
  I'd drop either the 2 guns or the 2 launchers to fit cheaper (more cpu requirement) MWD and a better AB.
  
  I still think the fit is far too expensive to still get alpha'd by pretty much anything that gets a clean hit on you.
• vega27

  May 02, 2012, 05:09:47 am

  
  

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  honestly id give up the rockets all together(rockets ment for null-sec use more imo). All they do is poot out smoke where as the guns can hit @25km~ allowing me more flexibility for whoring(and delivering psycological blow of dealing dmg ... falcon pilots will run).
  
  If you are using a light dictor in a situation where you know theres gonna be bigger numbers with alpha your better off using a heavy dictor anyway. The light dictors are ment to gank/surprise people doing other things than actively looking for a fight. All you need is the time it takes to warp the support fleet behind you and your jobs done basically. I would not use this ship against an engagement that is actively seeking a fight.
  
  You can fit no-more than 3/4 guns (i like tech II) on it (and being amarrian i like lazers onry)
  Autocannons would be fun on this ship too but again might as well be in an sabre at that point so yeah just hitting that wall again sabre is better I'm ok with that.
  
  
• vega27

  May 02, 2012, 07:10:31 am

  
  

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  Quote from: vega27 on May 01, 2012, 12:44:26 pm

  Quote from: Khaine on April 26, 2012, 09:41:07 pm

  DOUBLE BUBBLE! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! DOUBLE BUBBLE!!
  
  I think the faction shield extender is a little much for sure. Same with a deadspace MWD. T2 rigs are a bit much.. And wtf civ AB?
  

  
  The Faction Shield extender is the linch-pin on the basic fit that allows you a nice buffer tank to go on top as a cherry to the double bubble /cloak fit. If your in wspace, you should be space rich and able to afford this. In my eyes this is slightly pricey but most ppl can man up and buy it.
  
  The Dead Space MWD was CHEAP on the market. that said, its got a significantly lower sig boost than meta 1/tech 2 and the cpu/pg are more forgiving (sorta). You can fit tech 2/meta 1/experimental prop. (the faction shield extenders additional sig boost can be countered by using the deadspace mwd that still has a lower percentage of sig rate it boost when cycled on vs tech 2 which gives you a nasty 500% sig radious boost
  
  **(Updated Response)***
  Civi After Burner- Why? Your right, dropping rocket launchers for tech 2 AB. I hate having open slots but I have to admit i like having the tech II AB. FITTING Updated.
  
   Congratulations you now have Dual Prop light Dictor LoL.
   
  
  I like options and I dont like being on a one track mind. The Heretic once you stop trying to apply basic *cosmetic* advantages over the sabers fitting window vs itself you realize all the hictors still do the same job and its up to you to customize it for specific uses instead of over generalized nullsec practices.
  
  My Fit is for [Covertly or Not] Deploying Bubbles -> Cause chaos and distract a fleet (KM Whoring) -> Get-Out/Cloak up  ->  return to Deploying MOAR Bubbles -> Moar KM Whoring -> Escape to live another day or by this time an enemy fleets ignoring you because they are "Locked into battle" and are fighting the higher threat targets... or too busy trying to please consider another option, thanks!ut of a bubble. Leaving you free to analyize the battle field and pick your next most effective bubble vector to keep the enemy committed to the battle.
  
  
  If warp Disruption probes once deployed actually counted as an aggressive act and put you on the kM, instead of hoping ppl try to warp  while the probe animation is still visibly up (most ppl give up once inside and fight anyway and dont initiate a warp) then you all could give me more shit, but as it stands Wormholes and dictor pilots are a very suicidal combination, thus max whoring is needed to keep doing it (atlast for me)
  
• Khaine

  May 02, 2012, 07:02:34 pm

  
  

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  Looks better now for what you want to use it for. Empty highs aren't so much a problem.