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Yuji Takamura
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Note that flying this ship will be a billion times more epic when the new missile graphics are implemented :P
Khaine
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Looks decent enough as a solo boat, can also work well in gangs. I'd faction the web though, as you said.
metamagnet
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faction the web. looks pretty standard. it will work
Haellena
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Oh no, another Drak-... Ohwait. Close enough. Still buffer, still.. hmm, a nano. Well, I see nothing out of the ordinary. 5 launchers, *girlslaughing.jpg*.

I see only an overpriced Drake, but hey, whatever makes you happy.
IzZy EpIc
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I would put a emergent locus analyzer sub system in rather then a dissolution sequencer.

Reason is you would lose on low slot and get another mid slot instead,

meaning you would have 4 lows and 7 mids!

you can have the 3 bcu's and damage control set up in the lows and fit an second invul or a em ward harderner. or a second web or scram or whatever.

you lose sensor strength but gain more versatility since now you have 7 mid slots. 

just my opinion as that is the only difference between your fit and mine.
RamblinRichard
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I cba to read what Izzy wrote but follow what he said, he's probablly right.
farligmagnus
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Reputation: 164

Does not look all that superior to a drake, especially considering the vast difference in cost. 100mn afterburner is the way to go when you are making passive tengus, as it's the only way to make it superior to a drake.
Widdershins
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Does not look all that superior to a drake, especially considering the vast difference in cost. 100mn afterburner is the way to go when you are making passive tengus, as it's the only way to make it superior to a drake.

This is totally false. MWD 10gus can be hella fast and do a ton of damage.

OP, listen to Izzy. The man knows his Tengus.

And OP reminds me: We, or someone in PRONS, need to host an epic Ungrouped-Torp-Raven roam and FRAPS everything before they take away our explosion rings. It must be done.
M1k3y Koontz
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Does not look all that superior to a drake, especially considering the vast difference in cost. 100mn afterburner is the way to go when you are making passive tengus, as it's the only way to make it superior to a drake.

Lol100mnfitssuck

No, I like this fit, though how much EHP would you lose if you change the engineering to an augemented cap reserve (6th launcher) and made one of the LSEs an EM Ward, then made the EM rig another extender?
idontknowinder
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Not too bad at first glance, but sadly its nothing special and doesn't play on the strengths of the tengu.

In my opinion  this should either be fitted with:
6 launchers and 10 mn mdw
or
5 launchers and 100mn afterburner
Araceli Gabriela
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buffer tengus are too expensive for what you get, but its better than a drake.
rabid killer
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.....I hate missile boats
IzZy EpIc
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buffer tengus are too expensive for what you get, but its better than a drake.

-you get more dps
-you warp faster ,align faster.
-more freedom to fit propulsion jamming modules.
-more range with both hams and heavies.
-great versatility in more situations.
-30k hp's in shield alone with resists ranging from 70 to 90% and a Sig radius of a fitted caracal with links.

and this all can be achieved under a bill. which is not a big ask for peoples wallets these days.

i have down at least a thousand targets with this type of tengu fit, many targets in which could not be Taken  in a drake.

it's worth the isk, This is a tough hull,if you change what i said in my previous post that is...
 
farligmagnus
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Reputation: 164

Does not look all that superior to a drake, especially considering the vast difference in cost. 100mn afterburner is the way to go when you are making passive tengus, as it's the only way to make it superior to a drake.

This is totally false. MWD 10gus can be hella fast and do a ton of damage.

OP, listen to Izzy. The man knows his Tengus.

And OP reminds me: We, or someone in PRONS, need to host an epic Ungrouped-Torp-Raven roam and FRAPS everything before they take away our explosion rings. It must be done.

100mn ab tengus are fast even if they are webbed and scrammed, which is not true for any mwd fit. there's a reason that established and skilled corporations use the 100mn fits, and not mwd tengus.
Khaine
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Reputation: 1136

Does not look all that superior to a drake, especially considering the vast difference in cost. 100mn afterburner is the way to go when you are making passive tengus, as it's the only way to make it superior to a drake.

This is totally false. MWD 10gus can be hella fast and do a ton of damage.

OP, listen to Izzy. The man knows his Tengus.

And OP reminds me: We, or someone in PRONS, need to host an epic Ungrouped-Torp-Raven roam and FRAPS everything before they take away our explosion rings. It must be done.

100mn ab tengus are fast even if they are webbed and scrammed, which is not true for any mwd fit. there's a reason that established and skilled corporations use the 100mn fits, and not mwd tengus.

Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. This is not a 100mn Tengu, so can we just tell the OP how to fix THIS fit, and not change it in to ANOTHER 100mn fit on here? I personally HATE the 100mn Tengus.
Keo
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Reputation: 276

Forget the fit... IzZy wtf is this: ??   O.o
RamblinRichard
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Reputation: 816

something russians like I think...
Widdershins
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100mn ab tengus are fast even if they are webbed and scrammed, which is not true for any mwd fit. there's a reason that established and skilled corporations use the 100mn fits, and not mwd tengus.

Implying or pretending that "established and skilled corporations" never use a certain kind of ship does not do you any credit. IZZY EPIC flies MWD tengus, as do several other of my corpmates of mine; in fact, quite a lot of us fly expensive ships a lot. If you still consider that we must be unskilled and noobish because of our fitting preferences on the Tengu, I suggest we arrange a playdate.

My point being, nobody is the single authority on what "good" PVP corps do with their ships, and if your argument is based around the fact that YOU know this then you need to re-think your argument.
IzZy EpIc
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Does not look all that superior to a drake, especially considering the vast difference in cost. 100mn afterburner is the way to go when you are making passive tengus, as it's the only way to make it superior to a drake.

This is totally false. MWD 10gus can be hella fast and do a ton of damage.

OP, listen to Izzy. The man knows his Tengus.

And OP reminds me: We, or someone in PRONS, need to host an epic Ungrouped-Torp-Raven roam and FRAPS everything before they take away our explosion rings. It must be done.

100mn ab tengus are fast even if they are webbed and scrammed, which is not true for any mwd fit. there's a reason that established and skilled corporations use the 100mn fits, and not mwd tengus.
Webs still effect a 100mn not as much but still does,  have intact seen a 100mn reach just shy of 5k m/s with snakes and links, I have tried both 100mn and 10mn set ups. I prefer the 10mn set up over a 100mn set.

I can get 3.3k ms in a 10mn set up and have better range control then a 100mn tengu,  100mn set ups you have to either sacrifice some dps or tank to get it the fit and quite often neeed an ancillilery router or/and reactor control unit  do get it to fit.
Which I don't quite enjoy doing.

100mn tengu is great and going in a straight Line and if you accidentally approach or change direction you lose alot of velocity and takes a while to build it back up.   

And for this supposed leet established corporations. If they want me to fit my tengu like that I would. But if I am doing my own thing I would fit it the way I want.



* All this aside we are getting off track to wat this tengu is intended to do. It's close range brawl tengu with a great buffer, you just need to change the subsystem I said earlier to get you that extra mid  slot. And put an invul or em ward in it.
Yuji Takamura
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This loadout has been updated
IzZy EpIc
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Reputation: 387

Lovely, you gets plus wan!
RamblinRichard
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Reputation: 816

It makes me cry to see a meta point on this... meta the DC and change it for a T2/faction imo.

Solo PvP Buffer Tengu

Spaceship
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Shadow Serpentis 50MN Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Modulename
Hello. This is my first PvP fit on Battleclinic. I wanted to get some imput before throwing it into the fray.
I tried to make this fit as cost-effective as possible. It's roughly 600mill, which is pretty damn cheap for a Tengu fit. Of course, faction mods and full T2 rigs are an option if you want to go all out.

Also using relatively cheap implants:
3% MWD/AB boost
3% damage
Zor's Hyperlink
3% explosion velocity
3% RoF

Stats are according to EVEHQ, with mostly Level 4s:

671 DPS with Rage @ 23.7km
471 DPS with Javelin @ 39.7km
603 DPS with faction @ 26.5km

Tanks 114 DPS omni. 96k EHP. 58 EM/81 Kin/69 Exp/88 Therm resists.

Cap stable at 32.5% with everything on.
Stable at 80.55 without MWD on.

Goes 1425m/s with MWD, with a 5.55sec align time.
Goes 239m/s without MWD, with a 4.11sec align time.

It has enough EHP to sustain itself, and a full web/warp jam tackle for the little frigs. I'm still undecided on fitting a faction web as a necessity. It would allow you to kite other ships outside their optimal range while still doing maximum damage, but as I said, trying to keep the costs down. The faction MWD was necessary in order to keep it cap stable. I'm uncertain on whether it can be classified as a speedtank, since the MWD knocks its sig radius up by a mile.

I'm not a huge expert on PvP or anything, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: Followed Izzy's wonderful suggestion. Lost some mobility but gained 19k EHP. Still cap stable. Put in the faction web and replaced the T2 warp disruptor for a Meta 4 one, due to fitting issues.

Targeting

Maximum targets 5
Maximum targeting range 81.25 km
Scan resolution 312.5
Sensor strength 20 0 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 1809.54
Inertia modifier 0.21769
Signature radius 1345.55 m
Cargo capacity 0 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 2475 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 3 minutes 59 seconds
Powergrid 906.5 / 1031.25MW
CPU 627.5 / 635 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 21945.23
Shield recharge time 30 minutes 30 seconds
Shield resistances 77.29% 69.38% 81.63% 87.75%

Armor

Armor hit points 3250
Armor resistances 57.5% 23.5% 68.13% 88.31%

Structure

Structure hit points 2076.25
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 0 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 0 m3
Download EVEMon Skill Plan
[Tengu, Solo PvP Buffer Tengu]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Shadow Serpentis 50MN Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Item Quantity Value
Tengu 1 154,994,000
Damage Control II 1 467,386
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 1 1,675,000
EM Ward Field II 1 1,488,710
Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile 1 82
Large Shield Extender II 2 909,898
Faint Warp Disruptor I 1 191,000
Shadow Serpentis 50MN Microwarpdrive 1 49,000,000
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier 1 62,000,000
Ballistic Control System II 3 840,000
Scourge Javelin Heavy Assault Missile 1 99
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II 5 963,998
Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile 1 922
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening 1 45,000,000
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer 1 46,362,000
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers 1 34,123,100
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 1 44,990,000
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix 1 45,000,000
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II 1 4,500,000
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I 2 1,790,000
Total 502,532,084
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