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• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 08:59:14 am

  
  

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  These values are with a non-scripted Tracking Computer. Alternate between Optimal and Tracking scripts depending on how far the rats are and how lazy you are.
  
  Use rat-specific ammo and hardeners.
  
  Keep as many cap boosters in your cargo as you can fit along with your ammo.
• Ceno

  March 22, 2012, 09:02:30 am

  
  

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  arties. >:|
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 09:07:48 am

  
  

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  Oh no, I'm not going to get into this. Some say arties for PVE, some say autocannons. I'm in the autocannon camp because they require less micro, so let's agree to disagree.
• Ceno

  March 22, 2012, 09:08:53 am

  
  

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  Quote from: CookieCutter_Designs on March 22, 2012, 01:07:48 pm

  let's agree to disagree.
  

  Fine, but then I can't pass much valid judgement.
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 09:22:06 am

  
  

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  If you're going up against rats you know like to orbit at 60km (like Guristas and the odd Sanshas) you can swap out the Tracking Computer for an Afterburner and just boat up to them.
  
  You can do it faster with Artilleries, but then again, you can blitz close range rats like Angels and Raiders faster with Autocannons.
  
  Honestly though, I recommend making two fits, one with artilleries and one with autocannons and using whichever is best based on knowledge of the mission.
• Araceli Gabriela

  March 22, 2012, 09:38:43 am

  
  

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  I never really do missions, but is that really enough tank for one? From what I recall some level 4's will eat through that quick especially without a prop mod.
  
  Anyway, good dps I guess. I'd hate to slowboat to range though
• Ryuzaki

  March 22, 2012, 10:00:30 am

  
  

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  The only thing on your fit that I think you could do without is the TC, I'd rather have a boost amp there instead.
  
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  One of my friends used a Sleip for Angel L4s a while ago, I think he used something like:
  
  [Sleipnir, New Setup 6]
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  
  Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
  Invulnerability Field II
  Explosion Dampening Field II
  10MN Afterburner II
  Gist C-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
  
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  Medium Nosferatu II
  
  Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
  Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
  
  
  Warrior II x5
  Hobgoblin II x3
  
  730dps w/ Barrage @ 3.9+48km
  789dps w/ close range ammo @ 1.9+32km
  519 Angel tank
  598 Gurista tank
  Cap lives for 5mins
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 10:07:28 am

  
  

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  I never found the speed to be that much of a problem. It's fast enough without a prop to avoid being kited by NPC battleships and it only takes about a minute to fly to a gate or into targetting range (but it kills things much faster once you're in range, so I feel that makes up for it).
  
  The tank is adequate for any level 4 mission as long as you're aware of spawn triggers. You'll probably only pop 0 to 2 cap boosters per aggro pocket. If you flub up and aggro a whole lot, you can just leave your shield and boosters on auto until you clean up enough of the pocket to be able to tank it normally (but you might need to return to the station to restock if you keep flubbing up).
• Amber Thetawaves

  March 22, 2012, 10:36:06 am

  
  

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  if you had arties, no prop would be just fine
  
  derping around at 200m/s trying to catch up to shit with ACs is rather silly though.
  
  and those 60km gates suuuuck especially if youre blitzing. which you should be
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 10:54:08 am

  
  

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  The ship has adequate fitting to replace the Tracking Computer with an afterburner, but as I said, you spend 2 minutes reaching the aggro pocket (which is usually not more than 40 km outside targetting range) and you kill it... let's say 5 minutes faster in total because of the improved ability to apply DPS added by the tracking computer. Once you shoot them, they'll (99% of the time) try to close range with you, making the afterburner unneccessary. The 1% of the time the odd sniper tries to kite you, you're still faster than them, so just save that joker for last.
  
  I don't know what missions have 60km gates. I haven't gotten one of those in at least a couple of weeks and I run missions a lot, so either I'm lucky or those missions are rare.
  
  But here are two alternative versions based off the above design:
  
  
  [Sleipnir, With AB]
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  
  10MN Afterburner II
  Large Shield Booster II
  Photon Scattering Field II
  Heat Dissipation Field II
  Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
  
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
  Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
  
  Medium Projectile Burst Aerator II
  Medium Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard II
  
  
  Hammerhead II x3
  Hobgoblin II x2
  
  
  [Sleipnir, Arty]
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  
  Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
  Large Shield Booster II
  Photon Scattering Field II
  Heat Dissipation Field II
  Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
  
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
  Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Heavy Missile
  
  Medium Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard II
  Medium Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard II
  
  
  Hammerhead II x3
  Hobgoblin II x2
  
• Ceno

  March 22, 2012, 12:16:43 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Amber Thetawaves on March 22, 2012, 02:36:06 pm

  if youre blitzing. which you should be
  

  I rarely blitz anymore. Bounties be where it's at.
• Elderad Ulthran

  March 22, 2012, 01:10:57 pm

  
  

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  This is actually awful. I looked at it first like hmmm, maybe a mini maelstrom with no prop mod? but then I realised that my 600DPS sustained tank pith booste RF AB sleipnir actually had trouble tanking some missions while moving full speed. so you're not getting anywhere with 250 sustained.
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 02:13:50 pm

  
  

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  I'll just update this to make it more appealing.
• RedHousePainter

  March 22, 2012, 02:17:42 pm

  
  

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  Yeah this fit is awful.
  
  You need an 10MN afterburner and a Domination X-large booster. Then you're good to go.
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 22, 2012, 02:44:07 pm

  
  

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  There, updated it to have an oversized shield booster and an afterburner just as requested. Also added in Republic Fleet Gyrostabs because everybody and their grandpa uses them.
  
  Just a reminder: the figures posted are WITHOUT RIGS because my Pyfa is broken.
• RedHousePainter

  March 22, 2012, 02:56:50 pm

  
  

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  Now, that's a command ship.
  
  +1
• Dreadloch

  March 22, 2012, 04:25:31 pm

  
  

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  Looks solid enough, used to run a near identical fit in a WH. +1
• Mike712

  March 22, 2012, 05:14:18 pm

  
  

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  It's ok, but not as good as a maelstrom, but more expensive, which isn't good.
• CookieCutter_Designs

  March 23, 2012, 08:11:05 am

  
  

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  Less damage, better durability all things considered (sig, speed, resists). At worst, a sidegrade, but if you live in empire and already have your Cruiser and Battlecruisers skills trained up, you can skip Large Guns and Minmatar Battleship entirely (and use a Loki for incursions).