Loadout: Fleet/Gang Arty Loki
Fleet/Gang Arty Loki
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Ship fitting - Built on February 7, 2012
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Darkside have started running artillery lokis as we can see here:
http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b3087/ http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b3125/ http://kb.ds-alliance.com/battle/b3034/ and so on. So it makes sense to steal their fit and do some analysis on it. All level V, no links or anything 71k ehp at 93/79/78/74 resists 423 dps at 29+36 range with rep emp/pp/fusion, 4954 alpha 245 dps at 105+36 with tremor (note: lock range 93 unboosted) 2872 alpha 648m/s with AB on, 130m sig Pros: Pretty good alpha with cruiser weapons, will one shot logistics with 15 buddies. Cons: ehp/dps seems bad for the cost. Pretty slow if bubbled. What does BC think? |
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February 07, 2012, 07:07:27 am
Commander
Reputation: 470
Pretty sure that at least one of the legion's will be giving out armour links, and one of the loki's skirmish links...
So you've got long range webs, big alpha, very high resists, overall +1 good fleet comp. -
February 07, 2012, 07:14:19 am
CommanderReputation: 464
why does it need a cap booster? -
February 07, 2012, 07:17:17 am
CommanderReputation: 470
prevention against neuting I'd guess...
Ever seen what happens to a capstable logi gang when someone drops a few void/lockbreaker bombs into the mix...
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February 07, 2012, 07:53:11 am
CommanderReputation: 464
prevention against neuting I'd guess...
makes sense i guess, you dont see void or lockbreaker bombs used that often though
Ever seen what happens to a capstable logi gang when someone drops a few void/lockbreaker bombs into the mix...
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February 07, 2012, 08:09:08 am
Senior Chief Petty Officer
Reputation: 87
For one of these super high alpha fleets (that are prepared to be shot back at unlike T3 BCs) I would think that logistics could handle any cap issues that a ship who passive tanks and who's guns don't use cap without too much difficulty. It would make a lot more sense if this had a MWD on it (if you needed to run it for a long time kiting) but since it doesn't even have that I don't really see the point.
However, you really don't need anything in that slot (except in rare cases a sensor booster), so the cap booster is as good as anything I suppose. -
February 07, 2012, 08:38:07 am
CommanderReputation: 470
Your right, it's probably a filler more than anything. If I could be bothered I'd check the cargohold of the various wrecks on the boards, see how many cap boosters they have, if its only a couple then it's a filler.
Might improve with TP/TD's as an improvement?
Whole point of AHAC is signature tanking versus larger guns, thus MWD really bad idea. -
February 07, 2012, 09:05:04 am
Crewman Recruit
Reputation: 9
Don't think you can get much range with an AB... Would use an MWD instead. -
February 07, 2012, 10:02:06 am
Lieutenant
Reputation: 580
Looks nice -
February 07, 2012, 12:08:03 pm
CommanderReputation: 470
Don't think you can get much range with an AB... Would use an MWD instead.
What are you on about? -
February 07, 2012, 05:09:17 pm
Crewman
Reputation: 8
Don't think you can get much range with an AB... Would use an MWD instead.
What are you on about?
You can burn away from your target doing 500m/s or 1300 m/s once at range you can pulse it to keep range, but with the long range webs it shouldnt be a issue. -
February 08, 2012, 05:38:17 am
CommanderReputation: 470
[soapbox]
AHAC gangs use AB's to sig/speed tank vs larger guns/missiles as often found in large fleet battles. By adding 500% to your signature with a MWD you massively increase the incoming damage, whilst not actually gaining a enough speed to mitigate the increased damage.
By using AB rather than MWD you are not effected by scram tacklers, so whilst your 600ms is not fast, nothing short of webs will stop you from doing that. As the loki/recons's will provide extensive webbing themselves you should be able to control range effectively for the length of the engagement.
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It's a bit shiny, doesn't look much better than a zealot at first glace.
Saving grace is going to be that alpha damage.
the other version they are flying would appear to be:
[Loki, Fittings.]
Damage Control II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Small Capacitor Booster II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier