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• Galey!

  February 04, 2012, 03:37:41 am

  
  

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  so basically you took a fitting someone had already made and you made it worse
• Galey!

  February 04, 2012, 03:57:02 am

  
  

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  Personally i would have never out a 100MN MWD in a medium sized ship but thats your choice however you are saying this ship is for PVE, in which case you have wasted a spot.
  
  with tech 1 missiles you are going to get a range of 20km with all your skill leveled up to level 5, so why the hell do you have a tractor beam on there. 1 you don't need to pull them in any closer and 2 you could have put a salvager on there which would have served a better purpose.
  
  and a better way than using energized plating is to go to-
  
  http://www.ogrank.com/content/view/698/59/
  
  - which tells you what kind of damage to tank and what kind of damage to inflict then you use the armor hardeners to tank whatever kind of damage you are going to be tanking on the mission.
• eddeh

  February 04, 2012, 03:58:00 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Galey! on February 04, 2012, 03:37:41 am

  so basically you took a fitting someone had already made and you made it worse
  

  
  If you look closely you will notice I made both, it's not worse but different
• eddeh

  February 04, 2012, 04:01:23 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Galey! on February 04, 2012, 03:57:02 am

  Personally i would have never out a 100MN MWD in a medium sized ship but thats your choice however you are saying this ship is for PVE, in which case you have wasted a spot.
  
  with tech 1 missiles you are going to get a range of 20km with all your skill leveled up to level 5, so why the hell do you have a tractor beam on there. 1 you don't need to pull them in any closer and 2 you could have put a salvager on there which would have served a better purpose.
  
  and a better way than using energized plating is to go to-
  
  http://www.ogrank.com/content/view/698/59/
  
  - which tells you what kind of damage to tank and what kind of damage to inflict then you use the armor hardeners to tank whatever kind of damage you are going to be tanking on the mission.
  

  
  If you think 100MN ABs on T3s are a bad idea you haven't been paying attention to their great success lately. The tractor beam is to be able to loot while you fly without the need of stopping. Also, PVE applies to nullsec ratting, anoms and W-Space as well, not only missions in high sec.
• Shingorash

  February 04, 2012, 05:23:48 am

  
  

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  100mn is pointless really, works with heavies but not hams. Also the tractor is pointless, you would be better with a tp. Rigs are wrong too, you need flare rigs.
• ancientsurvivor

  February 04, 2012, 06:50:54 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Shingorash on February 04, 2012, 02:23:48 pm

  100mn is pointless really, works with heavies but not hams. Also the tractor is pointless, you would be better with a tp. Rigs are wrong too, you need flare rigs.
  

  Just for the record - TPs are mids.
  
  Personally that sounds to me as if you never flew anything else then a passive Drake or a Nanocane. If no one does things differently we would still fly the same fittings as when EVE was realesed. I agree on the Rig part - being capstable ain't bad but is really not that neccesary.
  
  [Legion, HAM 100MN Shiny]
  Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
  Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
  Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
  Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
  Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
  Khanid Navy Ballistic Control System
  
  Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
  LiF Fueled Booster Rockets
  Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
  
  Salvager II
  Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
  Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
  Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
  Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
  Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
  Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Rage Assault Missile
  
  Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
  Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
  
  Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
  Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
  Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
  Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
  Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
  
  Simply put in a Rigor or Flare as wanted, the capbooster can be pulsed. If you are OK with less range then listed below use Rigors/Flares instead of the Thruster/Fuel Cage. Don't use a Nanopump as it'll slow your ship down.
  If you don't take a Salvager (or downgrade to T1) you can put on a T2 TP. Range is at 26 with all 5 and Rage, 29 with Faction, while going at just below 1500ms^-1 (1494 to be exact). Dunno what the problem of the poster above me is. If 100MN would suck I wonder why there are no Tengus that use a speed/activetank to do L4s.....
  Does only fit with faction shinies as the Legion has a rather low CPU.
  
  EDIT:
  Taking the "Tactical Targeting Network"-Electronic Subsystem allows you to take 2 T2 TPs in exchange for dropping the Salvager. Also increases the resolution from 350 to 557.8 @all5.
  
  [Legion, HAM 100MN Shiny]
  -snip-
  Target Painter II
  Target Painter II
  LiF Fueled Booster Rockets
  Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
  -snip-
  
  EDIT2: Some spelling mistakes escaped. So I had to go after them. If you find any you can keep them or send them back to me.
  
  EDIT3: Turn rate sucks... might work. Might not. Actually "might not" is more likely. Turns nearly as slow as a goddamn Orca (The 100MN Legion is at 32 seconds nearly). In which case you could downrade to a 10MN or fly a Tengu. Didn't think about that in the start.
• Shingorash

  February 04, 2012, 07:58:10 am

  
  

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  Yes tp's are mids, the fit needs changing, get rid of the damn tractor and useless spare high slot.
• eddeh

  February 04, 2012, 08:14:13 am

  
  

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  This loadout has been updated
• eddeh

  February 04, 2012, 08:15:08 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Shingorash on February 04, 2012, 07:58:10 am

  Yes tp's are mids, the fit needs changing, get rid of the damn tractor and useless spare high slot.
  

  Duly noted
• stu007

  February 04, 2012, 09:09:04 am

  
  

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  Just fit an mwd. Your faster, have better agility, you can get rid of the powercore subsystem for a capacitor one, meaning you can drop the cap booster for a web
• Mad Hops

  February 04, 2012, 12:23:13 pm

  
  

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  Um, to be honest it's not bad. But if you're rocking a 100mn I would roll with heavy launchers. But quite frankly, it's very rare that you'll need to go 1600 m/s.
• maz3r

  February 04, 2012, 12:37:20 pm

  
  

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  Honestly the only reason I would use a 100mn fit for PVE is if it was my pvp fit 100mn tengu.  While for highsec it doesn't make much sense, for lowsec, null etc, 100mn do tank ALOT and are a bitch to gank.  That being said I don't think this has the agility/speed to apply effective dps.
• Yabbiy 74

  February 04, 2012, 01:43:44 pm

  
  

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  it has a slavager..... are you :censored: ing kidding me