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EXuS Dogon
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just use an ishtar...
lol jk

I bet it tanks fine with just 1 kin and 1 therm hardener. put on another magstab for deeps?
Gaaldarax
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just use an ishtar...
lol jk

I bet it tanks fine with just 1 kin and 1 therm hardener. put on another magstab for deeps?

I suppose you could do that, but it isn't meant to speed tank, but yes that could probably work but for harder missions such as The Blockade I would keep the extra hardener on.
Gaaldarax
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*UPDATE*

Just ran The Blockade level 4 with exact fit and completed in exactly 45 minutes, didn't have any trouble. I don't have all level 5 skills either so it can only be better.
hmskrecik
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I have mixed feelings about Deimos doing missions.  I have used this ship for a while some time ago and while dps is really nice for its size and skills the tank is rather thin (have you tried Worlds Collide already?).

Your argument about skill requirements for T2 big guns is valid but to the point.  Training takes time, yes, but when trained you basically double your ISK/hr.  The Blockade you mentioned, 45 min to completion doesn't impress me much when I'm trying to beat it in 20 minutes with Kronos (tough call, usually I end within 25).  So I'd say that it's okay to use the Deimos but under condition that during this time you train for big stuff.

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Gaaldarax
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I have mixed feelings about Deimos doing missions. I have used this ship for a while some time ago and while dps is really nice for its size and skills the tank is rather thin (have you tried Worlds Collide already?).

Your argument about skill requirements for T2 big guns is valid but to the point. Training takes time, yes, but when trained you basically double your ISK/hr. The Blockade you mentioned, 45 min to completion doesn't impress me much when I'm trying to beat it in 20 minutes with Kronos (tough call, usually I end within 25). So I'd say that it's okay to use the Deimos but under condition that during this time you train for big stuff.

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You have a valid point, a Kronos/Vindicator will always beat the Deimos with DPS/tank but you can't beat the fact that the Diemos only costs 140mill vs 1bill+ for a Kronos/Vindicator. It does its job well for being a 140mill level 4 mission runner.

I myself might buy a Vindicator for level 4 missions but I was just testing this fit out and it works well.
hmskrecik
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You have a valid point, a Kronos/Vindicator will always beat the Deimos with DPS/tank but you can't beat the fact that the Diemos only costs 140mill vs 1bill+ for a Kronos/Vindicator. It does its job well for being a 140mill level 4 mission runner.

I myself might buy a Vindicator for level 4 missions but I was just testing this fit out and it works well.

Unless the ship is stupidly expensive I don't take note of the price argument.  1 bil (or mld in those parts of the world which recognize SI units) is not that big deal.  Even if you pay through nose for the missioning ship, you usually don't loose it if you know what are you doing.  Thus it's rather kind of investment which you can have back after a while, this way or another.

But even taking this argument, the fact you can't beat is that for similar price Ishtar is much better suited for the job.

Anyway, while I keep my opinion that this ship is rather poor choice for doing L4 missions, as Deimoses go your fitting looks good.

Level 4 mission Deimos

Gaaldarax's Deimos built 2011-12-25

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Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Small Tractor Beam I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Empty
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Before you say "You can use MWD in missions" let me explain that it has been changed that you can in fact use MWD in missions (not all IE Recon...). I used this in Serpentis Extravaganza Level 4 and melted all the battleships no problem, got through the mission in about 20 minutes.

(This is fit to fight Serpentis, hardeners changed per rat type)

All level 4 Stats:
-Tank: 475 vs Serpentis
-DPS: 811

Strategy:

1. Turn on MWD and approach rat
2. Turn off MWD when within range and orbit rat at 2,000km
3. Turn off MWD and turn on repper
4. Turn on blasters and send drones after smaller ships
5. Rinse... Repeat...

Don't say "Megathron or Dominix will do better" Unless you have T2 Rails with high skills you won't be able to match that DPS and tank even close. It is much easier to train T2 Medium blasters and it costs about the same as a BS and plus it is much faster warping in/out and to new missions etc... so over time it saves ISK/hour. Also being webbed is no problem because you just let drones loose on the webber and make short work of them, also you tank 475 DPS so you can almost just tank sitting still...

Enjoy :)

Targeting

Maximum targets 6
Maximum targeting range 106.25 km
Scan resolution 337.5
Sensor strength 0 0 22 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 1924.99
Inertia modifier 0.32063
Signature radius 900 m
Cargo capacity 415 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 1417.5 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 1 minutes 18 seconds
Powergrid 1143.5 / 1312.5MW
CPU 412.25 / 450 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 1500
Shield recharge time 15 minutes 37 seconds
Shield resistances 0% 50% 85% 60%

Armor

Armor hit points 2625
Armor resistances 50% 10% 92.69% 92.37%

Structure

Structure hit points 3187.5
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 50 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 50 m3
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[Deimos, Level 4 mission Deimos]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Empty

Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Heavy Neutron Blaster II
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Item Quantity Value
Deimos 1 175,000,000
Cap Recharger II 2 549,253
Hammerhead II 1 696,995
Heavy Neutron Blaster II 5 1,399,000
Medium Armor Repairer II 1 899,484
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I 1 500
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 2 985,000
Armor Kinetic Hardener II 1 1,463,000
Armor Thermic Hardener II 2 1,650,000
Void M 1 75
Small Tractor Beam I 1 1,507,000
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I 2 1,389,020
Total 195,708,600
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