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Gaven Darklighter
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Reputation: 427

Use a tornado
Gaven Darklighter
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Reputation: 427

Also your dps is shit
Phyrax
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Reputation: 0

Well considering I can't fly a tornado, and my DPS is acceptable by my standards, I just ignore your destructive criticism sir, thanks though.
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

Well considering I can't fly a tornado, and my DPS is acceptable by my standards.
Start training for a tornado, and that dps/volley won't get much done. A single Rokh will rape you.
Phyrax
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Okay let me set this straight.  I'm not going to cross train, nor will I ever.  Can no one provide constructive critisism without saying, "fly a different ship"?  I mean, it's a simple answer yes, but if everyone flew the same ship, this wouldn't be eve...  C'mon guys really?
Ceno
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Reputation: 1748

OK then, ignoring the idiotic statement about not crosstraining for pvp, don't use the Talos for sniping. Be up close and personal with blasters where you can be doing 1000+ dps with void/navy antimatter and 800+ with null at about 15kms. There's an argument about the low slots for the Talos between some of us here on BC. In my opinion, a DCII, a 1600mm Tungsten Plate, and an EANM should comprise your "tank" and two magstabs ensure that nothing survives your guns for long.

Your mids should have an AB (which will let you fit neutrons) or a MWD (which will limit you to ions/electrons), as well as a disruptor+ a web or, if in a fleet, two webs and no point. You'll have an empty mid there; fit with it what you will.
Phyrax
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As for cross training, we're all different, I just don't want too, though I know it's useful.  But this is the type of Crit I was looking for, thanks.
monkeytime
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Reputation: 18

Yes, really. The talos just isn't designed to sit at 200 km and apply any meaningful DPS, at least not with a full tank on it.
SuperNova221
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Reputation: 335

It's shit.

What are you even planning to do with this? Can't alpha anything that it can lock in time, will die to literally anything that gets a warpin on it. You're shit from long range, you're shit at close range. I just can't see any reason to fly this under any circumstances ever.
Gaven Darklighter
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Reputation: 427

Well considering I can't fly a tornado, and my DPS is acceptable by my standards, I just ignore your destructive criticism sir, thanks though.
lol yea ignore it and continue to suck at eve.
Hell G.
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Reputation: 1049

Hahaha no
RamblinRichard
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Reputation: 816

230 dps? I can make a hauler tank that

if its low just fly a regular b/c.

If its null get a destroyer or something, this contributes very little to a fight.
Szilardis
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Reputation: 1267

Definitely needs at least two magstabs, and a propulsion module.
Mike712
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Reputation: 781

Pointless active tank. (116 DPS tanked, why would you even bother wasting the slots for that)

Fit for damage.

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Talos fit

Phyrax's Talos built 2011-12-17

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425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor EM Hardener II
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
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I designed this fit to sit around 200k off a gate and just chill.  I would probably switch one of the rails for the improved cloak but just to damn lazy to do that.  Anyhow, I wanted one with a tank just in case something goes down.  So here's the stats:

EHP: 24.6k
*Resistances*
EM: 86.0%
TH: 63.5%
Kin: 63.5%
Exp: 49.4%

DPS: 230 w/ Spike ammo gives you that DPS, but you have to use it for the range.  If you switch to antimatter it's a DPS boost, but I'm going for volley anyhow.

Drones: 80.5
311 Total DPS
Volley: 1745

Scan Res: 442mm
Range: 250km

With a 7s align time it's recommend you align once you warp in.  I also used the Hybrid Adjuster to make up for no mag stabs installed, and the sub-controller just for lock on times...  I originally had an armor rep and a few cap-rechargers and came to the conclusion that a buffer is better.  So I swapped it for an EANM II and the two re-chargers for Sensor boosters and split the charges between scan res and target range.

Optimally I would use this along side a tackler and maybe another close range ship just in case you get someone close.  Though at over 200k out, why the hell didn't you warp out anyhow?

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 182.21396 km
Scan resolution 546.64
Sensor strength 0 0 20 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 275
Inertia modifier 0.30375
Signature radius 220 m
Cargo capacity 600 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 3875 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 9 minutes 41 seconds
Powergrid 16778 / 1375MW
CPU 650 / 450 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 2187.5
Shield recharge time 17 minutes 30 seconds
Shield resistances 12.5% 56.25% 47.5% 30%

Armor

Armor hit points 2362.5
Armor resistances 87.17% 55.09% 67.57% 67.57%

Structure

Structure hit points 2700
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 25 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 25 m3
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[Talos, Talos fit]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor EM Hardener II

Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II
Sensor Booster II

425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II
425mm Railgun II

Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Hobgoblin II
Item Quantity Value
Talos 1 72,444,400
Antimatter Charge L 1 190
Sensor Booster II 4 990,000
Damage Control II 1 448,449
Hobgoblin II 1 299,999
425mm Railgun II 8 3,900,000
Medium Armor Repairer II 1 900,000
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 2 588,892
Armor EM Hardener II 1 1,250,000
Spike L 1 212
Targeting Range Script 1 8
Scan Resolution Script 1 14,000
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I 1 1,500,000
Medium Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I 2 299,998
Total 113,795,038
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