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Amarr-Menace
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Just realised that the attributes calculator doesn't take into account the ship's passives (which reduce the CPU/GRID of large energy weapons considerably).
Gunjob
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plates are usless, you have no resists at all, drop both plates for mission spec hardeners
pwnt
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Use a harb or a baddon. What's the point?
Amarr-Menace
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pwnt: The large energy weapon passives are why I chose the ship. I can do around 1500 a volley, and using the web/MWD I can keep within optimal range and keep unloading.

Gunjob: Thanks for your advice, i'll take a look and revise the build to something in-line with that.
Apex Bex
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Terrible. Moreover, this ship is in no way suitable for PvE. You could make it happen if you absolutely insisted but as has been mentioned, there are far better, far more effective options available to you.

Big guns with bad skills means you won't hit much, too.
Amarr-Menace
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Have updated the build - Obviously the hardeners would be replaced with whichever type was required for the current mission.
cpt.Tomik
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Man get a Harbinger if you want Battlecruiser or Baddon / Apoc for PVE.

Tier3 dont have enought slots to be good mission runing boats. You dont have drones agaisnt small rats in missions which will be hard to kill with the large guns. They are ment to be High Alpha glass canons for PVP.

Edit: Sorry for -1 but tier3 as PVE will not work.
Seranova Farreach
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pfft i like that people are tryign to use the new tier 3 BCs for something other then getting blown up in pvp
Amarr-Menace
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Thanks for all your comments. I forgot to mention that I would be running these missions with the support of one or two Corp members in short-mid range cruisers. My general idea when designing the fit was that I would be a big laser silo in the background, unloading at the large targets while my team mates tank / kill the little ones.
Gunjob
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For Lvl3's this could easily work, you might have to do some burning off mission to low transversal speed of the smaller ships but good times otherwise.
Shouldnt need the DCU for lvl3's very tight on cpu mind. Hope this helped.

[Oracle, Lvl3]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Tracking Enhancer II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Medium Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Strikilla
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These were made for pvp.. as everyone said. -1 I have a feeling its going to go pop.
Amarr-Menace
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Thank you very much for your post Gunjob, I will use some T1 versions of the modules you suggested until I have the skills, but apart from that it looks to be a decent build.
Shingorash
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The only T3 BC I can see being any use for missions is the Talos because of the drone bay.

The other ones will have problems with any small ships.
Hula
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Oracle, lvl 4 shield active
Damage Control II
Capacitor Flux Coil II x2
Tracking Enhancer II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink x2

Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster

Mega Pulse Laser II x8

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II

Just add in an active Vulture with all 3 shield link modules and 4 assault launchers + light drones and a set of low-grade crystals, cr8/cc8 Ax-2,Cx-2 and G2 epsilon implants

All lvl 5 Cap stable , worst tank 465 on pure EM
Dps 747 with Scorch L (52+13 at 0.036) or 937 with IN-Multifrequency L (17+13 at 0.048 PLUS web range )

Can it work in all lvl 4 with a partner? yes...
Can you train/spend isk better?  A LOT!
Anyway even your t1 version still a great dps support for low-skill into a lvl 3 mission

Hula
Mournful Conciousness
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cost of fit: 2 billion isk
outraging the battleclinic community with said fit: priceless!

:-)
skippermonkey
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cost of fit: 2 billion isk
outraging the battleclinic community with said fit: priceless!

:-)
I think you are commenting on the wrong fit d00d
Mike712
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All pve tier 3 BCs are hilariously retarded and you have to be retarded yourself, incredibly stubborn or both to use one for this purpose.

Just use another ship...seriously

shlakkk
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The only T3 BC I can see being any use for missions is the Talos because of the drone bay.

The other ones will have problems with any small ships.

not sniper fitted they wont, which is the only viable way to fit for pve anyway.
DoomspikE
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Reputation: 203

All pve tier 3 BCs are hilariously retarded and you have to be retarded yourself, incredibly stubborn or both to use one for this purpose.

Just use another ship...seriously



Will you be my bestie? lol
Mournful Conciousness
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cost of fit: 2 billion isk
outraging the battleclinic community with said fit: priceless!

:-)
I think you are commenting on the wrong fit d00d

No, I was commenting on the preceding alternative fit.


Mournful Conciousness
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All pve tier 3 BCs are hilariously retarded and you have to be retarded yourself, incredibly stubborn or both to use one for this purpose.

Just use another ship...seriously


If you mean solo Level 3/4 missioning then I would agree.

However, we often run sleeper raids (pve) in pvp fit with logi and ecm backup. Why? Because pve in anywhere other than carebearspace can very quickly become pvp.

Under these circumstances, the new tier 3 battlecruisers are pretty good. They do good damage at good range, have low sig radii, and don't massacre our 1Bn kg wormhole with each transition.

amarr-menace can fly with us if he likes, we're all retarded and stubborn too :-)

Anabaric
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Young skill in tier 3.... your missing the point.

You really want good skills and T2 LARGE laser for this to work as expected, should you actually not gimp your entire training plan to get into this early, you'd have been in a far better position to use a different hull that would work for the job. IE a T3 cruiser for WH.

Oracle Mission / PvE Fit

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Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Tracking Computer I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
10MN Microwarpdrive I
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Medium Automated Carapace Restoration
Internal Force Field Array I
Upgraded Armor EM Hardener I
Upgraded Armor EM Hardener I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
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Fairly basic fit I threw together on my new oracle. There's no tier 2 ATM due to skill training.

I'd appreciate any constructive criticism provided. (Especially with regard to the tracking computer in mid and the Chain-mail's in bot which I am unsure about.

The build WILL fit with a few levels in the correct skills to boost the Grid and CPU.

Targeting

Maximum targets 6
Maximum targeting range 81.25 km
Scan resolution 275
Sensor strength 0 0 0 18

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 1436.11
Inertia modifier 0.33413
Signature radius 1260 m
Cargo capacity 500 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 3773.44 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 9 minutes 17 seconds
Powergrid 18277 / 1718.75MW
CPU 506 / 431.25 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 1968.75
Shield recharge time 17 minutes 30 seconds
Shield resistances 11.5% 55.75% 46.9% 29.2%

Armor

Armor hit points 2700
Armor resistances 87.84% 31.2% 35.5% 44.1%

Structure

Structure hit points 2475
Structure resistances 58% 58% 58% 58%
Drone bandwidth 0 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 0 m3
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[Oracle, Oracle Mission / PvE Fit]
Heat Sink I
Heat Sink I
Medium Automated Carapace Restoration
Internal Force Field Array I
Upgraded Armor EM Hardener I
Upgraded Armor EM Hardener I

Tracking Computer I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
10MN Microwarpdrive I

Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Algid Energy Administrations Unit I


Item Quantity Value
Oracle 1 71,989,900
Tracking Computer I 1 126
Heat Sink I 2 18,400
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1 1,600,000
Medium Automated Carapace Restoration 1 3,500
Internal Force Field Array I 1 8,500,000
Mega Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I 8 303,004
10MN Microwarpdrive I 1 190,000
Upgraded Armor EM Hardener I 2 171,015
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I 1 1,500,000
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I 1 2,594,990
Medium Algid Energy Administrations Unit I 1 269,665
Total 89,451,043
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