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Count Chamberlain
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Personally i would need some form of physical defence, others like to just use ecm and hope for the best, but ive lost a fair few blackbirds and falcons because they haven't had a series of good cycles.
if you part of a small gang: make sure someone has a TP. Also id recommend switching the Disrupter for a scrambler..think of the range of you torps, and the range of your web, all around 9km - 20km,
Alternately if your part of a gang, maybe switch for cruise missiles, YES there dps is considerably lower, but it get amazing range, allowing you to ECM and hit from a good distance, whilst another ganger member(s) have point.

For the record, go for meta 4 ECM modules....there better :/ idk why :D
other than that, should do fine, but get some light drones in there, pref Hobgoblins.
-Count
Ryuzaki
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I'd make a comment about Racials, but then I'd sound like an idiot who never bothers to read the description like some people.

---Comments for tweaking into a Gang Ship--
Should have a MWD, change the BCS -> DCII (you are't there for damage) and you have no EHP at all currently...  I'd change web & point to 2x Invul and change rigs to 3x Extenders since you'll have 3x Sig Amps.  ECCM->CapBooster   imo, but, *shrug* ECCM isn't the worst thing to have there though.

NOS is debatable, but I'd keep it if you don't have a cap booster.

Other option is to go 1600plate/DCII/SigAmps/Trimarks and gain mid slots for more ECM.

--Comments for Solo--
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I personally think Solo Scorps are ehhhhhhhh
You still need a DCII, MWD, and Cap Booster.  Sig Amp or BCS -> DC ; ECCM -> CapBooster ; AB -> MWD
Rigs...  I don't know.  I'd say more ECM Strength, but stacking penalties, so I'd suggest Extenders or Resist (resist rigs are cheaper).
Hiiragidaniel
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I'd make a comment about Racials, but then I'd sound like an idiot who never bothers to read the description like some people.

---Comments for tweaking into a Gang Ship--
Should have a MWD, change the BCS -> DCII (you are't there for damage) and you have no EHP at all currently...  I'd change web & point to 2x Invul and change rigs to 3x Extenders since you'll have 3x Sig Amps.  ECCM->CapBooster   imo, but, *shrug* ECCM isn't the worst thing to have there though.

NOS is debatable, but I'd keep it if you don't have a cap booster.

Other option is to go 1600plate/DCII/SigAmps/Trimarks and gain mid slots for more ECM.

--Comments for Solo--
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I personally think Solo Scorps are ehhhhhhhh
You still need a DCII, MWD, and Cap Booster.  Sig Amp or BCS -> DC ; ECCM -> CapBooster ; AB -> MWD
Rigs...  I don't know.  I'd say more ECM Strength, but stacking penalties, so I'd suggest Extenders or Resist (resist rigs are cheaper).

I like this comment better, so i'll reply to it.

I see exactly what you're saying. My lack of PvP experience sticks out quite a bit. I'm comfortable in this ship, so i'd love to stick with it for all my PvPing despite its obvious weaknesses.

I'm rather iffy about swapping out my ECCM, as i'v encountered severe problems with ECM drones in the past. BCUII -> DCII seems like something i should have done in the first place, the zero tank part is pretty stupid on my part. MWD i can see for keeping range control. The rigs i kind of like to keep, even though the ECMs use less cap than anything else tbh. Does a EM Screen & Thermal Screen while keeping the Augmentor sound good?
Angrylemming2
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Solo
Gang

Pick one. The fits for each are completely different.
As for solo, very poor choice of ship.

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Does a EM Screen & Thermal Screen

Resistances don't do much when your buffer is non-existent.
Keo
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imo the best defense for this boat is to sit at 150km and throw drones at anything burning towards you! Go full ECM and leave the tackle to someone else. I go rainbow with a spare multi, MWD, SeBo and ECCM, then I stick a 1600 plate in a low to give me some buffer. I like the ECCM as you'll often get targeted by opposing ECM boats.

If you're in range you'll be primary as soon as they see you, if you stay at range you can do your job of locking up their logi and damage dealers in peace.

You'll have to be pretty good to fly solo, these are paper thin so good luck to you =)
Dee Vicious
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just forget the solo part, that said, range is your friend so you should never be in range of web, point, and torps (use cruise). also mwd to keep that range. neut instead of nos, rigs - particle dispertion 1 augment and 2 range (or 1 trimark), lows - 2 sig distortion amps, 1600 plate and DCU, mids - 2 more jams instead of point and web.
Angrylemming2
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You'll have to be pretty good to fly solo

Flying an ECM boat solo (or at least a Scorpion) is way more luck than skill, and the odds are stacked pretty highly against you flying something like this.
Comboduck
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Scorpions are very much gang ships, if you wish to solo in it, it is quite possible (check out kill will 3 part 1 and four) but then there is no place for ecm mods. A scorpions strenght is that it can jam from very far away, if you wish to be a good ecm pilot, you should capitalize on that.
Hiiragidaniel
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imo the best defense for this boat is to sit at 150km and throw drones at anything burning towards you! Go full ECM and leave the tackle to someone else. I go rainbow with a spare multi, MWD, SeBo and ECCM, then I stick a 1600 plate in a low to give me some buffer. I like the ECCM as you'll often get targeted by opposing ECM boats.

If you're in range you'll be primary as soon as they see you, if you stay at range you can do your job of locking up their logi and damage dealers in peace.

You'll have to be pretty good to fly solo, these are paper thin so good luck to you =)

This makes alot more sense to me, thank you. Good advice and my tactics are WAAAAY off.

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You'll have to be pretty good to fly solo

Flying an ECM boat solo (or at least a Scorpion) is way more luck than skill, and the odds are stacked pretty highly against you flying something like this.

Damn right it's luck. I've managed to solo corpmates in friendly to-the-hull matches but only because i had successful ECM cycles through the entire fight. How? Idfk, but it gave me some overconfidence that was corrected by your comments.

I'll work towards a better, gang focused, fit.

EDIT: Are sentry drones a plausible choice? Seeing as they keep at about the same range as me.
Dee Vicious
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Damn right it's luck. I've managed to solo corpmates in friendly to-the-hull matches but only because i had successful ECM cycles through the entire fight. How? Idfk, but it gave me some overconfidence that was corrected by your comments.

I'll work towards a better, gang focused, fit.

EDIT: Are sentry drones a plausible choice? Seeing as they keep at about the same range as me.

if you're really dead set on solo with an ecm boat u might want to try a rook something like this http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/21266-Rook-Post-1-1-solo-pwnmobile.html
as far as drones, just use a flight of warriors for interceptors and a flight of ecm drones for gtf out of dodge
Hiiragidaniel
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Angrylemming2
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I've managed to solo corpmates in friendly to-the-hull matches

In reality however, anything smaller than a battleship would be able to escape with ease (if you managed to catch it in the first place, and good luck with that) and other battleships would kill you on the spot if you missed a jam.

Fit looks better now but could probably use some proper tank if you have a decent gang (resists help the logis out a lot).
Hiiragidaniel
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Dee Vicious
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everything looks better now except the shield rigs, change to armor rig (trimark or exp resist) or partical dispersion projector for better jam range
Hiiragidaniel
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dasrufken
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Imaginary -1 because I absolutely hate ECM.
Warren Civire
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hmm... if you ask me through a flight of EC-600's on there and 5 t2 hobgobs. I'm thinking anything gets close enough to drop those E-war drones on would be useful, and with the extra drone space why not through the hobgoblin twos on there right? oh and number one rule of jamming ships... ALWAYS STAY ALIGNED :D       
Count Chamberlain
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much better
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Hiiragidaniel
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Netheran
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I :censored: ing hate ECM, but this is definitely a good way to go about being an absolute :censored: douche.
Hiiragidaniel
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Scorpion PvP (Small gang, Long range)

Hiiragidaniel's Scorpion built 2011-11-09

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Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device
Large Micro Jump Drive
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
'Umbra' White Noise ECM
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Large Particle Dispersion Projector I
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Added improvements based on the fantastic comments.

Built for long range gang support.

ECMs should be swapped depending on situation (as if you need to be told). If you know what you're fighting, pick the right racials. If you're going in blind I would suggest just biting the bullet and using multispectral.

Edit 12/31/14: I decided to update this fit upon returning after an extended break. Much more refined for it's intended purpose. Drones = Smart bomb pop, Vehemence first, then Notos. Tackler = Jam, micro jump. Have fun.

Edit 1/3/15: In my new years drunkeness, I forgot to replace the ECCM with ECM burst. No one is going to jam you, so forget about the ECCM module. I dare you to micro jump into the fray and ECM burst. Saved my mate's lives more than once. It has other uses too. Don't activate it in high sec.

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 146.25 km
Scan resolution 116.19
Sensor strength 24 0 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 30.7
Inertia modifier 0.0783
Signature radius 480 m
Cargo capacity 550 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 6875 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 13 minutes 45 seconds
Powergrid 6386 / 11250MW
CPU 695 / 937.5 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 7896.88
Shield recharge time 31 minutes 15 seconds
Shield resistances 12.5% 56.25% 47.5% 30%

Armor

Armor hit points 19981.25
Armor resistances 57.5% 23.5% 36.25% 53.25%

Structure

Structure hit points 8125
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 75 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 75 m3
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[Scorpion, Scorpion PvP (Small gang Long range)]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I

Large Micro Jump Drive
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
'Umbra' White Noise ECM

Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
Large Particle Dispersion Projector I


Item Quantity Value
Scorpion 1 160,000,000
Damage Control II 1 467,386
Large Micro Jump Drive 1 999,999
'Cetus' ECM Shockwave I 1 18,107
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines 1 920,145
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge 2 353,017
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I 2 327,000
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 2 603,000
Caldari Navy Cloaking Device 1 20,000,000
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I 1 70,356
'Hypnos' Multispectral ECM I 1 7,006
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I 1 92,300
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM 1 148,600
'Umbra' White Noise ECM 1 50,000
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I 2 10,016
Large Trimark Armor Pump I 1 11,420,000
Large Particle Dispersion Augmentor I 1 2,674,000
Large Particle Dispersion Projector I 1 398,978
Total 199,852,943
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