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• Towkin

  May 06, 2011, 07:11:46 am

  
  

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  Remove the Shield Transporter, it won't do much except capping you out. Dual-obelisks are more than enough for all Vanguard, three if you want to be on the safe side. Change a Sub so you have another mid slot instead of that high slot, and put an Afterburner on. While 300m/s is enough with dual webs, you're still close range, and an AB should probably make it better.
  
  While I wouldn't decline an request for invite from a pilot using this as it is right now (if I ever flew shield ), it's not yet perfect IMO.
• BrandKuiken

  May 06, 2011, 07:26:06 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Towkin on May 06, 2011, 07:11:46 am

  Dual-obelisks are more than enough for all Vanguard
  

  
  destraction obelisks I'm assuming
  
  There's an easy fix to make this a lot more viable. If you switch your engineering subsystem to Capacitor Regeneration Matrix and decrease your guns to 220mm you will be able to fit an afterburner and perma run the medium shield transfer, although you could also put on a large shield transfer instead which would run for 1m38s.
  
  Also I would suggest dropping your 4th gyro to a damage control to increase your buffer and then change your ambit rig to a T2 collision accelerator (since you'll have the isk from the faction gyro) to maintain similar DPS. The range will be compensated by the afterburner though I would imagine you'll probably be close to your fleetmates. My suggestions would look like this:
  
  [Loki, Shield xfer Vanguard ]
  Damage Control II
  Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  
  10MN Afterburner II
  Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
  Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
  Invulnerability Field II
  Large Shield Extender II
  
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  Medium Shield Transporter II
  
  Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator II
  Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
  Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
  
  Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
  Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
  Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
  Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
  Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
  
  
  
  
• Towkin

  May 06, 2011, 07:51:22 am

  
  

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  Quote from: BrandKuiken on May 06, 2011, 07:26:06 am

  destraction obelisks I'm assuming
  

  
  Ah... how the hell do I still make that mistake? Of course I mean Basilisk
• Verachy

  May 06, 2011, 08:39:09 am

  
  

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  where is the ab?
• maz3r

  May 06, 2011, 08:43:46 am

  
  

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  Quote from: BrandKuiken on May 06, 2011, 07:26:06 am

  Quote from: Towkin on May 06, 2011, 07:11:46 am

  Dual-obelisks are more than enough for all Vanguard
  

  
  destraction obelisks I'm assuming
  
  There's an easy fix to make this a lot more viable. If you switch your engineering subsystem to Capacitor Regeneration Matrix and decrease your guns to 220mm you will be able to fit an afterburner and perma run the medium shield transfer, although you could also put on a large shield transfer instead which would run for 1m38s.
  
  Also I would suggest dropping your 4th gyro to a damage control to increase your buffer and then change your ambit rig to a T2 collision accelerator (since you'll have the isk from the faction gyro) to maintain similar DPS. The range will be compensated by the afterburner though I would imagine you'll probably be close to your fleetmates. My suggestions would look like this:
  
  [Loki, Shield xfer Vanguard ]
  Damage Control II
  Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  
  10MN Afterburner II
  Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
  Dread Guristas Stasis Webifier
  Invulnerability Field II
  Large Shield Extender II
  
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M
  Medium Shield Transporter II
  
  Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator II
  Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
  Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
  
  Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
  Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
  Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization
  Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
  Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Skip the damage control.  Loki's have such a small hull amount, if they get through your armor, you are already dead.  IMO go 3x gyros 2x Te in the lows.  Afterburner would be nice, but the way to do these sort of things is to orbit the anchor and let them come to you.  Personally if you can't fit at least a large shield transporter don't bother.  Burst tank > Cap stable tank, at least on this sort of setup.
  
  Additionally I would add in a Core Field Extender rig instead of that projectile rig to get a bit more buffer, After stacking penalties and in fall off, its in game dps addition is very minimal.  Add you are there primarily for you webbing, not really your dps.
• Ripper548

  May 06, 2011, 08:52:45 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Towkin on May 06, 2011, 07:51:22 am

  Quote from: BrandKuiken on May 06, 2011, 07:26:06 am

  destraction obelisks I'm assuming
  

  
  Ah... how the hell do I still make that mistake? Of course I mean Basilisk
  

  
  I dunno, but I would LOVE to see somebody field obelisks instead of basilisks for a shield fleet....
• foomoo moosoo

  May 06, 2011, 11:50:43 am

  
  

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  10mn AB brings down the alpha u receieve considerably, i recommend putting 1 on, otherwise, despite the hate and lack of damage control im neutral on this 1, it has 2 webs, 6 guns, 3 gyros..., use barrage tho, and you'll deal 600damage a volley to tamas @30km with only 1 TE II...then u can squeeze on that damage contro, also use all T2 shield: 1xextender 1xkinetic 1xexp rigs, then u can roll this baby into HQs an assaults after whacking on aother LSE II.
  
  [Loki, Vanguard Loki]
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Damage Control II
  
  Large Shield Extender II
  Federation Navy Stasis Webifier <-- change to LSE II for assaults/HQs
  Federation Navy Stasis Webifier <-- change to LSE II for mom site
  Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
  
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  425mm AutoCannon II, Barrage M
  Medium Nosferatu II / Auto targeter II
  
  Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
  Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer II
  Medium Core Defence Field Extender II
  
  Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
  Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers <-- mom site, change to tactical targting network
  Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
  Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
  Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
  
  weakest resist 70% at 100% incursion penalty, 0% - 74% unbonued.. 80% with bonuses, so it all works nicely
  
  
  
   
• jowilkin

  May 06, 2011, 07:05:40 pm

  
  

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  It's alright, but far from perfect. 
  
  1) Don't bother trying to fit a remote rep.
  2) If you do 5 damage mods in the lows, it should be 3 gyros and 2 TEs.
  3) Needs a prop mod.
• Nai Sethanas

  May 07, 2011, 12:14:38 am

  
  

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  Quote from: jowilkin on May 06, 2011, 07:05:40 pm

  It's alright, but far from perfect. 
  
  1) Don't bother trying to fit a remote rep.
  2) If you do 5 damage mods in the lows, it should be 3 gyros and 2 TEs.
  3) Needs a prop mod.
  

  
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• extralife

  June 14, 2011, 11:44:52 pm

  
  

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  i would take this into my fleet, only cause it can web at range, other than that, this fit is mediocre. Probally cause it needs armor tanked.