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ekasim
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Reputation: 117

Interresting concept....I'll +1 it and keep watching thread. It will scream "primary me" but with small sig, good resists, good jamming and good logi support it might survive.

+1

Edit: Sig rad is 150 not 210
Shingorash
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Reputation: 153

Yeah sorry its 150 with none t2 ammo so CN Bloodclaw missiles would be better.

Good spot.
Shingorash
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Reputation: 153

Edited to include updated DPS and sig figures.
Jinto Mack
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Reputation: 286

concept works fine, this fit does not.
while your jam strength is higher than most ECM armour fits, your tank is all wrong and very low.
slot layout is odd too.

just fixing your tank:

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

now if you want to tank it properly:

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Reactive Membrane

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

i'll let you figure out the rest of the fit.




Shingorash
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Reputation: 153

Tank is fine, the resists are fine for Armor Logistics, plus your fit costs a hell of a lot more, its meant to be cheap and effective.
Jinto Mack
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Reputation: 286

you can swap the plex passive hard for a T2 active hard if you want.
then it's just 60mil for the IN EANMS, which can also be T2 if your a cheap bastard who shouldnt be flying T3s.
in which case it costs the same and has 45% more tank, do the maths.

also, my fit has 6 jammers vs your 4.
(i'll admit to not having an AB tho)
Shingorash
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Reputation: 153

I would probably faction fit it myself, my 3b high sec Tengu (which I never use because im a naughty pirate) is testament to that.

This fit is cheap though for the people who would rather not spend a stupid amount of ISK on a PVP ship that will likely die.

It is a baseline fit, you can T2, Faction, Deadspace or Officer fit it if you feel like it. I just haven't.
shenryyr
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Reputation: 118

This fit is cheap though for the people who would rather not spend a stupid amount of ISK on a PVP ship that will likely die.

no... tossing a plate on a blackbird is a cheap way to accomplish this task.

or even a rook is far cheaper.

if you expect it to die, don't do it in a tengu.
Shingorash
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Reputation: 153

A rook cannot armor tank this well.

Sticking a plate on something doesnt mean it has a tank.
whiley
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Reputation: 0

concept works fine, this fit does not.
while your jam strength is higher than most ECM armour fits, your tank is all wrong and very low.
slot layout is odd too.

just fixing your tank:

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

now if you want to tank it properly:

1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Reactive Membrane

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

i'll let you figure out the rest of the fit.







He's not tanking.  He's just got some buffer.  That's an ecm boat.

Also, too much tank, not enough jamming power.  Bad fit.
Marcus McTavish
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Reputation: 66

My beautiful tengu, *sob*
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!

useful idea but it makes me sad
Shingorash
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Reputation: 153

Makes me sad as well but at least I would have some sort of use in a fleet armor fight even if it is just jamming small targets like tackle etc...
RamblinRichard
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Reputation: 816

I don't really like the idea of it tbh, I know this has advanatages  like the command proccessor and the ecm, but this could easily be replaced by a blackbird and prophacy, which would both do what this is trying to do better.

sorry, -1

Armor Fleet ECM Tengu

Shingorash's Tengu built 2011-02-18

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Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Information Warfare Link - Electronic Superiority I
ECM - Phase Inverter II
ECM - Ion Field Projector II
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II
ECM - White Noise Generator II
10MN Afterburner II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Tengu Defensive - Warfare Processor
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Rifling Launcher Pattern
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I
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As per the title, saw a loss mail from someone who tried this but didnt do it too well in my opinion.

This looks like it might actually work rather well...

8.91 jam strength / 9.91 overheated (2 mins before burnout)
218 DPS (designed to shoot tacklers mainly)
60,341 EHP
80.9%, 88.3%, 77.7%, 74.6% (EM,Therm,Kin,Exp)

Doesnt move terribly fast but the sig radius is only 150 so it shouldnt take too much damage.

Also added a Information Warfare Link to help with the ECM a bit incase there are more ECM ships in fleet.


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Targeting

Maximum targets 5
Maximum targeting range 117.1875 km
Scan resolution 293.75
Sensor strength 35 0 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 499.53
Inertia modifier 0.26123
Signature radius 157 m
Cargo capacity 0 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 2750 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 3 minutes 59 seconds
Powergrid 1009.5 / 1031.25MW
CPU 573.25 / 635 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 3978.13
Shield recharge time 20 minutes 22 seconds
Shield resistances 12.5% 56.25% 73.75% 82.5%

Armor

Armor hit points 8062.5
Armor resistances 80.88% 74.55% 77.69% 88.31%

Structure

Structure hit points 2076.25
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 25 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 50 m3
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[Tengu, Armor Fleet ECM Tengu]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II

ECM - Phase Inverter II
ECM - Ion Field Projector II
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II
ECM - White Noise Generator II
10MN Afterburner II

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
Information Warfare Link - Electronic Superiority I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I
Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I

Tengu Defensive - Warfare Processor
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Offensive - Rifling Launcher Pattern
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Hobgoblin II
Hornet EC-300
Item Quantity Value
Tengu 1 160,000,000
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II 5 876,489
Damage Control II 1 467,386
Hobgoblin II 1 414,715
ECM - Phase Inverter II 1 1,152,140
ECM - Ion Field Projector II 1 1,100,070
ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II 1 1,099,980
ECM - White Noise Generator II 1 675,004
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 603,000
Armor EM Hardener II 1 1,350,000
Armor Explosive Hardener II 1 1,500,000
10MN Afterburner II 1 2,194,410
Information Warfare Link - Electronic Superiority I 1 202,003
Hornet EC-300 1 8,148
Signal Distortion Amplifier II 1 1,400,000
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile 1 897
Tengu Defensive - Warfare Processor 1 41,969,500
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer 1 41,390,000
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 1 44,000,000
Tengu Offensive - Rifling Launcher Pattern 1 38,000,000
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix 1 53,996,900
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I 1 2,000,000
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I 1 1,992,550
Medium Particle Dispersion Augmentor I 1 539,000
Total 400,438,148
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