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Aaron Greil
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You'll get this a lot. Use a navy omen, its got better dps and flight of light drones. Its shorter range, but in pve thats not as much of an issue. This will always have cap and tracking problems, the navy omen won't. I might use a zealot for angel cartel or drone missions, but a BS for sansha/blood missions. But like I said, a navy omen out performs this in every aspect, except maybe price, but that one is close.
Aaron Greil
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Oh, I forgot, for some constructive criticism, perhaps consider using a capacitor battery if you can fit it instead of the recharger, it might help with the cap issues.
Crunchbite36
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You'll get this a lot. Use a navy omen, its got better dps and flight of light drones. Its shorter range, but in pve thats not as much of an issue. This will always have cap and tracking problems, the navy omen won't. I might use a zealot for angel cartel or drone missions, but a BS for sansha/blood missions. But like I said, a navy omen out performs this in every aspect, except maybe price, but that one is close.
Show me this fit you speak of. Last I checked zealot does more dps, and mine has no cap problems.
Aaron Greil
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You have to have heavy assaults four in order for the zealot's bonuses to reach the navy omen (at cruiser V), and that doesn't the include Navy Omen's drones. Remember the N omen gets 32.5% rof bonus. Here is my navy omen fit. It might look strange, but its for fighting blood raiders (i.e. it has to be neut proof) in zero sec.

[Omen Navy Issue, Atropos]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Dark Blood Energized Reflective Membrane
Dark Blood Energized Thermic Membrane
Dark Blood Energized Thermic Membrane
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Prototype Cloaking Device I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5

588 dps and light drones!
Aaron Greil
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Reputation: 91

Zealot never matches N Omen in dps, the only thing it has is range. Even at heavy assaults V it doesn't have as good of damage.
CiaCheCait
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Reputation: 2

Oh, I forgot, for some constructive criticism, perhaps consider using a capacitor battery if you can fit it instead of the recharger, it might help with the cap issues.
Thanks for the thought, but I'll fiddle around with EFT to see if it'd work.

Oh, and forgot to post stats:
(All Level V) (Conflagration M/Scorch M)
DPS: 546/429
Optimal Range: 11 km/34 km
Cap: Stable at 39%/48%

Thanks for the replies.
kano_donn
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Reputation: 3

for what this ship is. I like it
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

...except maybe price, but that one is close.

zealot is about 25 to 35 mil more expensive.
Cpt Boomstick
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Reputation: 89

Just some minor things to factor in the navy omen vs zealot stats.  Zealot will always move faster, have higher resists, target lock quicker and have much better range assuming you copy one fit to the next.  I don't have eft in front of me right now but I think zealot also trumps in damage output with heavy assault ships at 5.
Aaron Greil
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Just some minor things to factor in the navy omen vs zealot stats.  Zealot will always move faster, have higher resists, target lock quicker and have much better range assuming you copy one fit to the next.  I don't have eft in front of me right now but I think zealot also trumps in damage output with heavy assault ships at 5.

For strictly turret dps this is true, but with the drones of the N omen, it isn't. The problem I see is that there will be an elite frig or two that could get under the zealot's guns and stop our friend here from getting way if things get too hairy, then you loose the ship because you are getting webbed and/or scrammed and the battleships 43 km away are pounding you to dust. With the N Omen, the light drones prevent this problem. They can roast the elite frigs giving you time to escape. (I speak from experience here)
CiaCheCait
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Reputation: 2

Just some minor things to factor in the navy omen vs zealot stats.  Zealot will always move faster, have higher resists, target lock quicker and have much better range assuming you copy one fit to the next.  I don't have eft in front of me right now but I think zealot also trumps in damage output with heavy assault ships at 5.
With all skills at 5 (I only have HAC 4), the Zealot puts out 546 DPS, where as the Navy Omen, without drones, does 496 (both with Conflags). With 5 Hobgoblin IIs, this bumps up to 595, an impressive 49 DPS jump over the Z. With my pathetic Drone skills, Z runs 515 and N Omen kicks out 542, a 27 DPS climb.

With the optional swap outs I listed earlier (CPR for HS II, Web for Cap Recharger II, Laser rig for CCC or Semiconductor), I retain my cap stability and DPS shoots to 547, nudging out the N Omen (again, with my skills). However, as mentioned, losing a webbie or drones can be devastating when AFs or Spider Drones get to orbiting distance. With my current kit, I swap for Scorch when they're on their approach, then web and swap for MFs when they get within 10 km. It seems to work alright, did Angel Extrav last night and the Spider Drones at the end didn't last long enough for the BS to get within optimal range.

When all is said and done, I'm glad the N Omen was brought to my attention, as it was an option I hadn't considered. And like I said, the Zealot is not the ideal mission runner, but this keeps the option open for those who know and love the ship to be able to kit it for missions without having to get and/or skill up for a different ship. Until I figure out which way I'm going to go, I'm going to stick with the Zealot because of its high exp/kin armor resists, and because, frankly, drones are just another thing to forget on accident :P

Zealot: PvE Z.

CiaCheCait's Zealot built 2010-09-17

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Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Cap Recharger II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
10MN Afterburner II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Kinetic Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I
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Yes. I know, the Zealot is not "meant" for missions. But when you've spent 2 years in 0.0 and then come back after a 3-year hiatus, you go with what you know. I've seen quite a few bad PvE Zealot kits, so I figured I'd post my level 4 kit.

Could swap the web out for a cap recharger, swap the CPR for a Heat Sink and double CCC on the rigs for maybe another 30 DPS, depending on your skills. But losing the utility of a webbie for a smidgen more DPS. . .potato, potato.

But ultimately the Zealot suffers from Glass Cannon Syndrome, and the only part of this hull/kit that I find lacking is the tank. Since I usually run Thukker or Minmatar agents, it's easy to double up on exp resistance, but sometimes it's not enough. I've been running L4s for a little while now and there have been a few times where I have to warp out, but all in all, I prefer this over the boredom of a BS.

Targeting

Maximum targets 6
Maximum targeting range 93.75 km
Scan resolution 382.5
Sensor strength 0 0 0 21

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 640.46
Inertia modifier 0.37328
Signature radius 125 m
Cargo capacity 440 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 1875 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 1 minutes 50 seconds
Powergrid 1136 / 1475MW
CPU 378.5 / 425 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 1225
Shield recharge time 15 minutes 37 seconds
Shield resistances 0% 87.5% 70% 20%

Armor

Armor hit points 2812.5
Armor resistances 62.5% 85% 84.41% 72.97%

Structure

Structure hit points 2087.5
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 0 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 0 m3
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[Zealot, Zealot: PvE Z.]
Capacitor Power Relay II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Kinetic Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Cap Recharger II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I


Item Quantity Value
Zealot 1 136,000,000
Capacitor Power Relay II 1 450,000
Cap Recharger II 1 437,990
Heat Sink II 2 749,927
Heavy Pulse Laser II 5 1,500,000
Medium Armor Repairer II 1 889,899
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator 1 177,777
Energized Kinetic Membrane II 1 240,100
Energized Thermic Membrane II 1 529,000
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1 588,892
10MN Afterburner II 1 2,139,200
Conflagration M 1 6
Scorch M 1 1
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I 1 1,413,100
Medium Energy Collision Accelerator I 1 214,782
Total 152,080,601
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