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Douglas Reynholm
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Reputation: 470

active tank, tracking computer(s) t1 ammo

rig cccs

don't fit buffer for missions, you need an active tank to out repair incoming damage, not out last it before blowing up ;p
Szilardis
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Reputation: 1267

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/36992-Rokh-Active.html

This is much superior to this for PVE

Don't passive tank for PVE Battleships excepting the Rattlesnake

As for PVP, this is also terrible, you need blasters, prop mod, shield buffer, damage control, web/point, etc.

Don't use one ship for PVE and PVP
Trinkets friend
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Reputation: 318

Sadly, the Rokh isn't a very efficient level 4 machine. Judging by your quoted skills, I would actually not go buy this and would stick with a Drake; you'll get equal DPS and better tank.

If you must use a Rokh, try this compromise. 960DPS burst tank vs Guristas; turn the booster on when you need it, it lasts 2m 46s. Pick aggro appropriately, and its serviceable.

[Rokh, Burst Tank]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5
randall117
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Reputation: 7

ok here's what you should do. get in the ship strip the mods off undock blow up the ship then use the insurence money to get a drake and fittings then train up skills and one day get a CNR because this rokh hasnt got the tank or dps for most lvl 4 missions
ssBaldy
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Reputation: 15

get a raven for lvl 4's. your rokh is not good for them, well, any rokh isn't really good for missioning.
Szilardis
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Reputation: 1267

Rolinator your fit isn't as good due to a lack of tracking and lack of a cap booster. Rokh gets shitty cap no matter how you look at it. Damage control should be a TE II, cap rechargers need to be a heavy cap booster and a tracking computer
Kel'Kub
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Reputation: 51

I just used Mikes Rokh fit when i went through my Rokh phase..
shenryyr
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Reputation: 118

use a mega for railgun missioning.  tracking bonus + dmg bonus == winbuckets

otherwise if you're just caldari use a raven.  like everybody else.
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

Or a hype if you're worried about tank.
zaneright
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Reputation: 4

Szilardis - I didn't mention anything about PVP but it randomly tag it to begin with but removed it straight away so you may have seen it then.

shenryyr - I don't want to use a raven although I do have one for when its needed, just not fit atm but will be going active tank with it

Most skills that matter are at lvl 4 and any that aren't are planned to lvl 4 and I looked at an active tank fit so thanks for reassuring that's what I should do despite the cap problem.

Thanks for the feedback everyone just what I wanted
Angrylemming2
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Reputation: 447

^ What they said, also lose that faction ammo. Using that you're burning something like 120k ISK per minute of firing.
zaneright
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Reputation: 4

This loadout has been updated

Everyone mentions the CCC rigs but the semiconductors actually provide a better boost in cap, but for PVP I do understand the logic since the CCC's boost recharge time while the semi's just boost cap capacity.

And I only get my Navy charges via the LP store so save a lot of isk that way so I can justify using it.
Szilardis
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Reputation: 1267

You really need a tracking comp and prerably a tracking enhancer as well, as rails pretty much can't track a station
Angrylemming2
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Reputation: 447

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And I only get my Navy charges via the LP store so save a lot of isk that way so I can justify using it.

You're using loyalty points which could be used to make more cash. Just because you're not spending isk directly doesn't mean you're not spending it at all. Faction ammo is grossly inefficient on this ship.
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

If you're using a cap booster, then lose those pdu's for TE's and you can hit stuff.
Kel'Kub
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Reputation: 51


Everyone mentions the CCC rigs but the semiconductors actually provide a better boost in cap, but for PVP I do understand the logic since the CCC's boost recharge time while the semi's just boost cap capacity.


Wrong way round, Semiconductors Increase the Cap pool, so when your an EFT warrior, it appears that it gives you longer cap.
But in reality you shouldnt be perma running that shield booster(even tho you only have a large  ??? ) you want as much cap recharging as possible when that sheild booster is off.
when your bigger cap pool is exausted your running on only cap boost charges, which costs you isk, cargo space and a mid slot.
In pvp by the time that battleship cap pool emptys the battle should either be going in your favour or its time to get out.
Mike712
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Reputation: 781

Here's the fit Kel was on about I think:

Lv4 Mission Rokh


It's decent but a raven will be better for most missions.
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

Gallente BS 3 takes a week to train for. You could then hop into a mega. Just a thought.
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

I posted a set up you could use zane, if you want to look at it.
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/44080-Megathron-Alternative-for-L4-Missioning-rokh.html Estimated time for that setup is around 10-15 days. Depending if you want the T2 hardeners.
zaneright
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Reputation: 4

This loadout has been updated
Szilardis
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Reputation: 1267

bingo
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/44099-Hyperion-Second-alternative-to-L4-Mission-rokh.html And here is a hyperion fitting. Last set up. Sorry for spamming your loadout with my own.
zaneright
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Reputation: 4

No its fine these suggestions for alternatives are the sort of thing I am after, as if I can not greatly improve on the fit or ship that I have then alternative ships and fits fit the bill perfectly.

Don't apologies for doing someone a service providing the help that they are asking for. Thanks a lot I do appreciate it, also if anyone has raven or scorpion fits they want to share to make the most of there respective roles/bonuses for either PVE or PVP then that would be greatly appreciated as well. The scorp is just something for a bit of fun since they look cool and its my star sign so couldn't resist.
Kel'Kub
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Reputation: 51

Scorpions don't PvE "."
There is Plenty of Raven fits for PvE if you just browse loadouts.
zaneright
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Reputation: 4

Scorpions don't PvE "."
There is Plenty of Raven fits for PvE if you just browse loadouts.

I know I could just browse fits (and I do) but since Killamanjaro and Mike have such good fits I was hoping for direct help from them, calling on the more experienced if you will.

I know the scorp isn't a PVE ship but thought I would have a little fun since I had it. Possible links to PVP fits? Might join someone on BS roams with at some stage.
KILLAMANJARO
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Reputation: 624

Scorpion is a cheap way to go if you wanna ease from L3's to L4's without breaking the bank.
zaneright
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Reputation: 4

Yeah I know its reasonably cheap but I already have most Caldari ships up to and including the BS's, just looking at ways to switch it up a bit now.
Nothing can keep me satisfied for long unfortunately. lol

Thanks everyone, I think I will start experimenting, possibly lose a few ships in the process but who cares its just a bit of fun.
sinfulsage
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Reputation: 0

Tried this load out last night on a level 4 mission. I was happy the first mission I did, but half way through the 2nd one I had to warp out, repair and return, took a beating. 

Lvl 4 Mission Rokh

Spaceship
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
Tracking Computer II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Power Diagnostic System II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Modulename
I am just after some input and advice on best improving this fit and i have ideas but not sure if they are any good, I am comfortable using it but for some of the harder lvl 4's I do need help otherwise I need to warp out to recharge cap, shields don't seem to be a problem but if I sacrifice them to much without tank DPS increase I am screwed.

With this setup I am getting this:

EHP         =          60k
Tank (DPS)  =          681 burst
Gun DPS     =          482 w drones
                       392 w/o Drones
                       1747 Volley
2m 7s cap with everything running

Does this look a little better and this will only get better as my skills get better. Once my energy management/cap skills get better I may be able to go up to an x-large shield booster.

I know that this is not the ideal still as it is a Rokh but I like the Rokh and rails so just go with it.

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 112.5 km
Scan resolution 93.75
Sensor strength 24 0 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 111.25
Inertia modifier 0.0918
Signature radius 500 m
Cargo capacity 625 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 7875 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 8 minutes 46 seconds
Powergrid 14363 / 19875MW
CPU 857.5 / 975 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 11156.25
Shield recharge time 28 minutes 35 seconds
Shield resistances 0% 50% 73% 64%

Armor

Armor hit points 8750
Armor resistances 50% 10% 25% 45%

Structure

Structure hit points 9375
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 50 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 50 m3
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[Rokh, Lvl 4 Mission Rokh]
Power Diagnostic System II
Tracking Enhancer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Tracking Computer II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II

350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Item Quantity Value
Rokh 1 182,839,000
Power Diagnostic System II 1 599,990
Tracking Computer II 1 870,000
Tracking Enhancer II 1 639,874
Hammerhead II 1 659,990
Kinetic Deflection Field II 1 1,350,000
Thermic Dissipation Field II 1 1,324,740
Heavy Capacitor Booster II 1 1,329,130
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 3 51
X-Large Shield Booster II 1 501
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun 8 656,468
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L 1 1,032
Caldari Navy Thorium Charge L 1 791
Shield Boost Amplifier II 1 749,498
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I 3 7,194,500
Total 217,199,941
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