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Loadout: Vindicator: Suigintou Lvl 4 Mission Fit


Vindicator: Suigintou Lvl 4 Mission Fit


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Ship fitting - Built on August 23, 2010

Vindicator, 874,999,000 ISK
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Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
100MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Tracking Computer
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Damage Control II
True Sansha Large Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Large Anti-EM Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Ancillary Current Router I
Ammo
Federation Navy Antimatter Charge L, 1,000 ISK
Tracking Speed Script, 7,898 ISK
Navy Cap Booster 800, 176,034 ISK
Cargo
Drones
Hammerhead II, 627,999 ISK
Hobgoblin II, 414,715 ISK
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Tyrannis 1.0.4
18th August 2010
3,406 Active tank, Armor tank, Expensive, Gun boat, PvE, PvP, Short range
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[Vindicator, Vindicator: Suigintou Lvl 4 Mission Fit]
Damage Control II
True Sansha Large Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener
Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener

Heavy Capacitor Booster II
100MN Afterburner II
Federation Navy Tracking Computer
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier

Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I

Large Anti-EM Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Ancillary Current Router I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin II
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Targeting Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 90625 m
Scan resolution 125 mm
Sensor strength 0 0 28 0
Size/Movement Max velocity 412.4
Inertia modifier 0.05603
Signature radius 400 m
Cargo capacity 665 m3
Systems Capacitor capacity 7912.5 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 12 minutes 15 seconds
Powergrid 18678 / 24062.5 MW
CPU 624 / 787.5 tf
Shields Shield capacity 10937.5
Shield recharge time 31 minutes 15 seconds
Shield resistances 12.5% 56.25% 47.5% 30%
Armor Armor hit points 11625
Armor resistances 70.25% 72.46% 80.11% 80.11%
Structure Structure hit points 13125
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drones Drone capacity 125 m3
Drone bandwidth 125 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m
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I've been slowly refining this down to what I want it to do.  I've been trying to get as much DPS out of it as I can, while still having a powerful armor tank.  I think I calculated the DPS and Armor Tank the right way, but if I didn't then by all means let me know what I did wrong.  Other than that, let me know how you think I've done so far.

DPS:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/calculators.php?calculator=dpsC&resistance=0&ammoDamage=132.02&damageMod=9.7&numWeapons=8&rof=4.92

Armor Tank:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/calculators.php?calculator=armorTank&armorEM=70&armorExp=72&armorKin=80.11&armorTher=80.11&armorRepairAmount=900&armorRepairDuration=11.64

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  • August 23, 2010, 08:22:55 pm

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    Oddly enough, it dropped my charge info for my cap booster:

    Navy Cap Booster 800
  • August 23, 2010, 08:23:43 pm

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    plutoninja is breaking through obscurity. plutoninja is breaking through obscurity. plutoninja is breaking through obscurity. plutoninja is breaking through obscurity. plutoninja is breaking through obscurity.

    need t2 guns. fitting the x-type shit then named guns is just stupid... and even then blaster's range suck. You're gonna need rails. Switch rig for nano-pump. I'm sure you switch hardeners based on mission, but i like to mention it. As it stands its a horrible missioner. it'll tank, but you'll spend waaay too much time getting in range to make it isk-efficient.
  • August 23, 2010, 08:25:20 pm

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    Kimsemus can almost be heard above the crowd. Kimsemus can almost be heard above the crowd. Kimsemus can almost be heard above the crowd. Kimsemus can almost be heard above the crowd.

    If you can't use and fit T2 guns, you don't need to be in this ship. Period.
  • August 23, 2010, 08:26:02 pm

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    this fails ar pvp take that tag off, also 3 bil isk boat using t1 guns.. man atleats use navy guns if your gona t1 it up.
  • August 23, 2010, 08:27:21 pm

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    I see absolutely NO benefit to using the Vindicator for PvE. It is a disgrace to a powerful ship, especially when for 1/10th of the cost of the hull you can buy and fit an Apocalypse that can tank and run any level 4 mission.
  • August 23, 2010, 08:31:56 pm

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    ^>_>^; Alright alright I get it, I'll leave it alone till I get my gunnery trained higher...
  • August 23, 2010, 08:36:57 pm

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    ^>_>^; Alright alright I get it, I'll leave it alone till I get my gunnery trained higher...
    Lmfao a better idea would be to use a different ship for missions. If you really want a faction BS, go for a domi navy issue or something similar. The Vindicator is a PvP boat, plain and simple.
  • August 23, 2010, 08:39:41 pm

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    ^>_>^; Alright alright I get it, I'll leave it alone till I get my gunnery trained higher...

    good boy...
    my vindicator is sitting patiently in jita till i finish large hybrid 5 :)
  • August 23, 2010, 08:39:55 pm

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    {Points at my killboard} Have you -seen- my track record as far as PvP goes?  I don't exactly jump at the opportunity to lose this much to 3 people gang ra*ing me.
  • August 23, 2010, 08:53:19 pm

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    {Points at my killboard} Have you -seen- my track record as far as PvP goes?  I don't exactly jump at the opportunity to lose this much to 3 people gang ra*ing me.
    Yep. You wont be pvping in it, and nobody will blame you. But you shouldn't be running missions in it either. Imo gallente are the worst race for high-class mission running ships.
  • August 24, 2010, 02:54:36 am

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    rails on a vindi makes a sad vindi. the dps is pretty damn low, considering it's ability with blasters.

    dominix'll do it better, another race will do it double-better.

    if you're ratting angels all the time though, prop mod could make this fun(with blasters), dunno about efficient though lol.
  • August 24, 2010, 04:18:20 am

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    Needs moar AWU. Current router, really? And what everyone else said.
  • August 24, 2010, 05:20:46 am

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    I appreciate the constructive criticism, as I said, I've just been experimenting with things as I go to see what works best for me.  It may be a bad thing in some people's eyes to use it for missioning, let alone with TI guns, but I do it under special conditions.  I usually go along with a friend of mine to his race's Lvl 4 missions, and while he does the long range I do the short range.  For the most part I just love getting this thing out of the dock and looking it over, and when I get a chance to do missions I like rushing into a rat's face and seeing him go down 3200 a hit.  It's exciting for me, and it might sound a bit noobish or idealistic, but when dealing with something as beautiful as a vindicator, I would rather use it every chance I get.
  • August 24, 2010, 08:28:00 am

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    I get 3200 out of my rail mega.
  • August 24, 2010, 08:36:54 am

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    if you use blasters you need to use null, added range is very helpful
  • August 24, 2010, 08:37:34 am

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    She/He doesnt have T2
  • August 24, 2010, 11:57:43 am

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    I see absolutely NO benefit to using the Vindicator for PvE. It is a disgrace to a powerful ship, especially when for 1/10th of the cost of the hull you can buy and fit an Apocalypse that can tank and run any level 4 mission.
    First of all, nice comments everyone - EXCEPT YOU! Not everyone feel inclined on training all races, I did, but that desn't mean anyone else should, and saying he should get an Amarr ship is pretty stupid especially since that would involve a whole different set of issues. He needs to try and put railguns on his ship and modify the structure a bit to only tank against one type of rats, since he got omni-tank right now. And i would like to see you try to tank half the missions with that "trash bucket of gold". You are OBVIOUSLY missioning in amarr space... I would like to know what you mission in? I use Navy raven and Rattlesnake for my missions, and i can tell you, that i am 100% sure it does better then any none cruise missile ship, does that mean i should sagest he flies Caldari now? "SURE!! YOU NEED TO HAVE MORE VERSATILE SHIP BRO... GET A CALDARI SHIP BRO!! YOU GET ALL RANGES WITH SAME DAMAGE BRO!!" - no! Thats not how it works. If you cant critique the fitting within the same ship, don't bother trying!
    P.S. Almost forgot to mention: So you said he should use this for PVP and he shouldn't use this for PVE. So... in your words, he should sell the ship? Would be nice if you actually said so! All you did was post nothing but destructive/ dumb ass criticism on his fitting. What the hell are you even doing here, if you are not gonna sagest how to improve the CURRENT ship. You get better idea for a ship - Post the link! But insulting whole race of ships saying they are not good for PVE is stupid, any ship can be used for anything.
  • August 24, 2010, 12:04:15 pm

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    Too bad when the ship we're critiquing sucks, You suggest a different ship that can do the same job better/faster for a fraction of the cost. If you can't see what's wrong, maybe you need to take your own advice.
  • August 24, 2010, 12:09:55 pm

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    Too bad when the ship we're critiquing sucks, You suggest a different ship that can do the same job better/faster for a fraction of the cost. If you can't see what's wrong, maybe you need to take your own advice.
    You dont think its wrong to call out a different race on this issue? I am sure if he stuck rails on this ship, it would do better job then even abaddon...
  • August 24, 2010, 12:23:03 pm

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    Now you're comparing a faction BS with a normal BS. This gets a 37.5% damage to guns, so yes, even with rails this would do better. But for cost oh boy. You get maybe ~12% more damage for 4 times the cost. Also, a megathron is gallente last time I checked. *goes and checks* It is, because I fly one. It's cheaper and does the same job. He/She can fly this, but she posted it on an advice website, and if she can't take criticism, then don't post fits, simple as that.
  • August 24, 2010, 12:24:31 pm

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    ^o_o^; B..but I'm fine with the criticism...I'm trying to adapt it into my training plan right now...
  • August 24, 2010, 12:29:37 pm

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    Run with a megathron until you get the hang of things, and if you still have stupid ammounts of cash, buy a vindi after you get t2.
  • August 24, 2010, 12:30:21 pm

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    Yes i agree. That's what i was criticizing. Not the fact that i love this fit, which i cant say i do, but the fact that it was suggested to use a different race ship. and NO i am NOT comparing a normal battleship to faction battleship, everyone knows faction will always be better. Comparing megathron to a vidicator is like comparing a raven to a CNR. would you do it? it can be done, but would you go back down a notch if you could choose between the 2?
  • August 24, 2010, 12:35:31 pm

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    Too bad when the ship we're critiquing sucks, You suggest a different ship that can do the same job better/faster for a fraction of the cost. If you can't see what's wrong, maybe you need to take your own advice.
    You dont think its wrong to call out a different race on this issue? I am sure if he stuck rails on this ship, it would do better job then even abaddon...

    not to shit on your parade, but an abaddon with 1 damage mod does more dps than this with 3 damage mods.

    mega pulse vs 425s
  • August 24, 2010, 12:40:47 pm

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    Too bad when the ship we're critiquing sucks, You suggest a different ship that can do the same job better/faster for a fraction of the cost. If you can't see what's wrong, maybe you need to take your own advice.
    You dont think its wrong to call out a different race on this issue? I am sure if he stuck rails on this ship, it would do better job then even abaddon...

    not to shit on your parade, but an abaddon with 1 damage mod does more dps than this with 3 damage mods.

    mega pulse vs 425s

    Mega pulse... How nice, now we are back to short range weapons... at this point he can stick with the blasters, and use afterburner to get in range... i dont see the argument here any longer... I was comparing meta 4 tachyons with meta 4 railguns, what are you comparing?
  • August 24, 2010, 12:56:36 pm

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    58+16 isn't short range(scorch).

    t2 vs t2. if you're flying a vindicator you should have passed t2 guns by then, same with an abaddon.

    putting off t2 weapons is something I regret, it can never be a waste of training, get to it, op!
  • August 24, 2010, 01:01:02 pm

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    I plan to get to TII guns when I get the time, the Modal Mega's are just there to supplement that gap in power until I actually get there.  I'm training for it as we speak but as we all know, it's gonna take some time, and until then I have to have -something- to work with.  I bought the Vindicator for a lot of reasons.  Most of them aren't based in logic or tactics, but I understand where everyone is coming from.  And I'm glad I got some good input about some things here.
  • August 24, 2010, 01:09:17 pm

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    OK... MEGA PULSE LASER II and where, could you be so kind to show me, do you see 58kms? and where did you get another 16 from?

    Please keep it consistent: MEGE PULSE LAZER II VS NEUTRON BLASTER II
    And: TACHYON II VS 425 II

    This is what we are comparing, now use the right numbers. Thank you.
  • August 24, 2010, 02:50:53 pm

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    OK... MEGA PULSE LASER II and where, could you be so kind to show me, do you see 58kms? and where did you get another 16 from?

    use t2 scorch long range ammunition. 58km is optimal range with 16km being falloff.
  • August 24, 2010, 03:03:08 pm

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    OK... MEGA PULSE LASER II and where, could you be so kind to show me, do you see 58kms? and where did you get another 16 from?

    use t2 scorch long range ammunition. 58km is optimal range with 16km being falloff.

    this, and two TCs. no one(with a brain) uses tachyons on an abaddon in missions, so it's a useless comparison.

    mega pulse, however, is comparable.

    and yes, abaddon still does more than vindi+rails with the same amount of damage mods.

    rails just have an unfortunately low gun damage multiplier
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    Alright my bad... TII crystals was the only thing i didn't research. So scorch gives you THAT much of a range bonus.. well good to know for future reference. So how much multiplier do you get in your Abaddon with those fitted missile madness?
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    http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/41156-Vindicator-Shield-tanked-Blaster-fitted-Super-Gank-PvE-Vindi.html

    My gank pve Vindi. With that setup you can reach respectable ranges and still do crippling DPS.
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    Ooo, thank you! ^n_n^
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    Except it's shield tanked. I'll say it again, stick with a mega until you get t2 guns.