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• dA_hAmbUrglA

  August 08, 2010, 01:06:53 am

  
  

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  Overtanked for level 4s, and cant do most l5s due to neut towers. Oh and 4.5bil with the crystal set and since my mael does l4s faster than this and costs 150mil I think that deserves a -1
• DeathMedic

  August 08, 2010, 01:26:13 am

  
  

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  is it cap stable enough?
• Desty

  August 08, 2010, 02:21:54 am

  
  

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  "(Yes the fitment has alot of complex and faction gear but affordable)"
  wait......3.5bio Isk? ...affordable? -.-
• Steveo74

  August 08, 2010, 03:10:44 am

  
  

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  The fit itself is really cool and the numbers are great. But it IS a lot of isk for what it is. I'm not going to -1 it though like everyone else because I do think it's a cool loadout.
• Towkin

  August 08, 2010, 04:10:01 am

  
  

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  The problems with this fit are numerous, but let's take an obvious failure with the fitting:
  
  It is way overtanked for level 4s, and aren't able to tank level 5 missions because of neut towers. (the actual tank is a bit to low for level 5s aswell imo - EDIT: scrap this last thing. I saw he used his Omni-tank number... )
  
  When you're doing a loadout (for PvE), and the price of the beauty reaches above one billion ISK, consider if it's not possible to use other modules or another ship to get the same effect. In this case, a T3 would be in it's place. Most fittings with a price above a billion can be better if they're on a T3-ship.
• Desty

  August 08, 2010, 04:14:24 am

  
  

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  I'll fix that for you:
  "But it is a lot too much Isk for what it is". (Also what you get tbh)
  
  i don't have negate this only cause of the price.
  My suggestions are:
  AB, Large Booster, moar BCU, TP and Salvager =)
  AB is worth more than every isk put into factiontankmods
• Grath Telkin

  August 08, 2010, 07:51:26 am

  
  

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  Your all pretty retarded, my golem fit is twice that, and I regularly PVP with ships around this price tag, or more.
  
  Stop crying about your wallet when considering a fit, its the most rage inducing retarded thing ever to constantly occur with this forum.
  
  "Im a cheap dirty jew, so I'm going to comment over and over again on what you should and shouldn't do with your money"
  
  What is the fitting on this, i.e CPU and PG?  Your not soloing lvl 5's in this (at any reasonable rate of speed), So what I'm wondering is do you use a cap buddy of some kind for support/dps, or how exactly you work around the neut towers?  Could you swap out the recharger for a medium/small injector?
• KILLAMANJARO

  August 08, 2010, 01:54:14 pm

  
  

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  Kryus, we can whine about the price tag when the fit is horrid. And by your logic, saying I fit a mach with all officer gear, you wouldn't cry about the price tag, would you now?
• Grath Telkin

  August 08, 2010, 08:08:25 pm

  
  

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  no, i wouldn't, but we'd probably try to kill it and loot you.
  
  
  judging a fit bad only based on price is retarded, there's no other word for it.
  
  If pirate implants bother you, then stop reading threads when you see they include them.
  
  Seems pretty easy. 
• KILLAMANJARO

  August 09, 2010, 08:38:47 am

  
  

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  Fine, he has 3 pdu's on there, that's why it sucks. happy?
• Grath Telkin

  August 09, 2010, 09:40:14 am

  
  

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  No?
• KILLAMANJARO

  August 09, 2010, 03:41:05 pm

  
  

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  He'll get much more performance out of a passive tank.
• Desty

  August 10, 2010, 05:24:16 am

  
  

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  cmon Kry, stop trolling. The title itself is the begin of a horrible fit/explanation.
  This fit can't get better only cause of the high prized factionmods. It sucks with T2, so he needs that much factionstuff to make it "useable", n that's fail.
  End of story
• Grath Telkin

  August 10, 2010, 06:52:40 pm

  
  

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  Are you really arguing that fitting a faction tank that doesn't work when its t2 is bad?
  
  
  Really?
  
  I mean, that looks like the basis of your argument there (pityatypemediumshieldbooosteristhespoiler)
• Desty

  August 11, 2010, 03:53:52 am

  
  

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  Yes, i think factionstuff is to IMPROVE a fit, and not to make it flyable.
  
  btw cause of your "pityatypemediumshieldbooosteristhespoilerblabliblablupp",
  you noticed that there is a X-Large Booster, right?
• Rhetoricus

  August 11, 2010, 07:33:43 am

  
  

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  Due to all the trolling this fitting as i stated in my notes is for "SOME" lvl's 5's which dont have neut towers in them, also i might add this setup works in full T2 and cap stable, yes the numbers arnt as big but it works.
  
  This fitting being compaired to passive tanks and such is stupid. The fitting itself was made for an "OPTION" to take rather than going passive. However if i must go into full detail i have 2 nh's i use one passive fit and this fitment i swtich out as i see fit for "speed" of clearing the missions.
  
  So trolling over the fact is has faction mods, or that its not passive is just stupid lol.
  
  But if you must continue please do so.
• Grath Telkin

  August 11, 2010, 08:02:54 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Desty on August 11, 2010, 03:53:52 am

  Yes, i think factionstuff is to IMPROVE a fit, and not to make it flyable.
  
  btw cause of your "pityatypemediumshieldbooosteristhespoilerblabliblablupp",
  you noticed that there is a X-Large Booster, right?
  

  
  Ok, so your saying that all those golems running around with pith a type medium shield boosters are poorly fit, thats my point.
  
  Your arguing that using a faction tank thats unuseable in a t2 version is bad.
  
  I'm countering with the argument that most well fit golems, are running pith a type medium shield boosters, which, oddly enough, will NOT work tank wise in with a t2 medium shield booster.
  
  Basically, I'm telling you your wrong, and that you don't "get faction fits", they are not serving the sole purpose of improving a fit, they allow fits that normally aren't possible, or even functional when in t2 form.
• Desty

  August 12, 2010, 03:44:46 am

  
  

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  Lol, you're funny, a Golem with Med Factionbooster IS a Improved fitting, normal BS-Size is X-Large, you know? So maybe it got the same tank but better dps/capstability.
  But this one, you know, is ways overtanked for 4s, even with a T2 X-Large it would be. And you can't fly most lvl5 with this, due to heavy neut. Yeah, maybe with backup. But then, why capbackup and not Buffer w/ Shieldbackup? Neut in wrong moment and 3.5bio are gone.
  So, once again, it's just a waste of isk.
  I only can repeat me:
  "AB is worth more than every isk put into factiontankmods"
  If you think it's a good thing, just +1 it -.-
• KILLAMANJARO

  August 12, 2010, 08:51:07 am

  
  

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  This thread is dead, stop postying kyrus
• Grath Telkin

  August 12, 2010, 11:16:47 am

  
  

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  Quote from: KILLAMANJARO on August 12, 2010, 08:51:07 am

  This thread is dead, stop postying kyrus
  

  
  No?
• MINA123

  August 12, 2010, 01:09:38 pm

  
  

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  Kryus. I mean no disrespect when saying this. but it must be considered that when you say moaning about price is retared, usually this is true (because usually the ships used a for PvE) however in this case i believe this price is just to high when you consider that other ships (The Golem comes to mind) can do the job better than this with only t2. I have no problems with expensive setups. but i feel you have to take into consideration why people are saying the fit is too expensive.
  
  As for my views I`d use a t2/Faction version of this for LvL4s with TP`s and more BCU`s.
  For LvL5`s i`d say roll with a passive tank so you can warp into any of the missions without fer of nuet towers