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• Axmathos

  December 04, 2007, 06:34:19 am

  
  

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  Personally, I'd take advantage of the ship's bonus to armor reps 7.5%/level adds up in a hurry.  I've had no problems with a single rep armor tank on any lvl 3 that I've come across.
  
  Edit: And also, seems pretty wasteful to take a Gallente pilot, and train up T2 projectiles and T2 shields for one ship.  IMHO
• adamantine

  December 04, 2007, 06:41:23 am

  
  

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  hehe,  to be honest, the passive shield myrm is basicaly just as effective, if not more effective then the armor tank myrm.  Projectile turrets suck no cap, so they are a good fit as well.  And you will see alot of pilots train skills for multiple races over time so this is just another example of that.  I personaly armor tank my myrm with duel repers, because it allows me to fit a AB, but this works fine as well.
• XaeNik

  December 04, 2007, 10:10:14 am

  
  

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  Plan and simple, No.
• Alsadius

  December 04, 2007, 10:21:50 am

  
  

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  Small projectile 5 and artillery spec 3 is about 5 days for me from scratch - you don't have to train it if you don't want to, since you can probably get away with hybrids if you switch a SPR or two to PDUs, but the numbers work out a lot better if you do. If I was using T2 medium guns, I'd agree, but smalls are easy. And even if you don't want to go T2, the T1 guns work just as well - you just lose a bit of DPS. I'm fitting T2 for the sake of ease, not because it's always correct.
  
  As for repper fits, yes, the 7.5%/level bonus is big, but it doesn't make up for the sheer inadequacy of armour tanking a battlecruiser. Even a rigged dual-repper fit ship only gets about 500 DPS tanked, and you spend just as many slots on that tank(i.e., all non-high slots) once you include capacitor gear. It lets you use hybrids, but that doesn't make up for the fact that the tank is half as big under most circumstances. I support use of armour tanks in most PvP fits - you can replace 5x rechargers with a single cap booster and have 4 mid slots free - but for PvE I'd rather have maximal tank and not need to waste consumables.
  
  Xaenik: Why not?
• jweltsch

  December 04, 2007, 10:29:26 am

  
  

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  uhhh,

  Quote from: xaenik on December 04, 2007, 10:10:14 am

  Plan and simple, No.
  

  why not?  the myrs passive sheild tank is amazing.  In addition, hes right about the guns, they are the best for the fit.  And just because he isnt using his 7.5% rep bonus means little when u realize that his tank is just as good this way (mayhaps better? im in class so dont have eft to check)  Ive been using passive sheild tanks for a while in missions simply because they are effective and there is little risk to ur ship if on the extreemly rare occasion that the tank gets broken cause ur armor will hold while ur aligning (personally ive never had to warp out in a passive tank but once and that was when one of my drones managed to agro all 70 of the ships on the screen 2 of which were ubers worth 2.5 million in tags) so my point is that just cause its a little different from the norm doesnt mean its worng
• adamantine

  December 04, 2007, 10:36:24 am

  
  

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  I agree with jweltsch.  just because it is not the norm, does not by any mean make it wrong.  I personaly do not use this setup, but i do not it works because i have tested it.  So if you have a valid reason to say no xaenik, then explain yourself.
• The Other Guy

  December 04, 2007, 11:25:55 am

  
  

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  I personally wouldn't put rigs on bc. Only on battleships and higher or t2 ships. I say get in a bs, rig it up, and get ready for lvl 4 missions.
• Alsadius

  December 04, 2007, 12:06:57 pm

  
  

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  If they were expensive rigs, I'd agree. But purgers are pretty cheap - only about 10M per. They add 63% to your tank at the cost of about a 30-40% increase in price(and a bit of sig radius, but that's minor). That seems worth it to me.
• jweltsch

  December 04, 2007, 10:23:55 pm

  
  

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  with the right rigs a myr can run quite a few of the lvl 4s, and costs far less than a battleship.  In addition, you could use the myr to pvp in, not that I recommend a passive shield setup for that (baring a few exceptional pvp passivers ie drake) but the rigs make a huge difference in your combat effectivness, speeding up missions and such, so it just comes down to is it worth it and how long will it take you to earn it back, and As I see it, each one of those rigs increases ur tank by a lot so it will decrease the time u need to come in and out of missions, so ull earn more isk.
• Braith117

  October 26, 2009, 04:02:56 am

  
  

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  okay, baring the fact that I haven't tried  a passive tank setup on a myrmidon, why in the world would you use light turrets on a medium ship?  It can't be to take out small targets, because that's what you have light drones for(in missions they zoom over and pop most frigs and destroyers in 5 seconds tops).  Secondly, why not use a drone link augmenter so your drones will have some range to them.  Just my experience with them, but having drones that can engage targets beyond your standard radar range(55km)is very useful in pve, more so than having an extra gun that needs the enemy to be pretty close in order to use it effectively.
• lethalcrush

  November 15, 2009, 11:28:20 am

  
  

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  what you setup large Core defence for medium slots?
• Rokano

  November 15, 2009, 02:29:43 pm

  
  

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  Max skills don't really matter, what really counts is how much YOU dps and tank with your skills. Being able to use mission specific ammo is a nice idea. For those with shield skills this might be viable. Leave L4s to the BS's imo.
• Alsadius

  February 15, 2010, 10:47:47 am

  
  

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  Lethal, your complaint is an artifact of how long it's been since I wrote this up. I used large rigs because mediums and smalls didn't exist in 2007.
  
  Braith, partially because of tracking, partially because of fitting. Myrm gets no gun bonuses anyways, so it's not like I'm giving up a bonus, and small guns can hit anything, and can be fit even with junky fitting skills.
• jakfr0s

  October 17, 2011, 04:33:00 pm

  
  

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  Nice fit bro, tried it liked it.