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Battle Atron


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Apocrita Vespulus

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Ship fitting - Built on August 3, 2010

Atron, 369,000 ISK
+ 11 0 -
150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Empty
Empty
Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Empty
Overdrive Injector System I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Empty
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I
Ammo
Caldari Navy Thorium Charge S, 599 ISK
Cargo
Drones
Hobgoblin II, 414,715 ISK
Build Views Tagged as
Incursion 1.1.1
21st January 2011
12,527 Gang, Long range, PvP, Solo, Tackler
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[Atron, Battle Atron]
Overdrive Injector System I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Empty

Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Empty

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Empty
Empty

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Hobgoblin II
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Version 3 changed on Jan 26, 2011
[Atron, Battle Atron]
Overdrive Injector System I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Empty

Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Empty

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Empty
Empty

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster I


Hobgoblin II
Version 2 changed on Dec 9, 2010
[Atron, Battle Atron]
Overdrive Injector System I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Empty

Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Empty

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Empty
Empty

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II
Version 1 changed on Aug 3, 2010
[Atron, Battle Atron]
Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Empty

Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Empty

150mm Railgun II
150mm Railgun II
Empty
Empty

Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I


Hobgoblin II

Positive ratings (11)

  • dA_hAmbUrglA
  • ekasim
  • Hardy
  • Mercer2011
  • Rahknai
  • SkullZero
  • Tactics Ogre
  • thanatos63
  • Tryaz
  • tsmcckarl
  • Tyran Crompt

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Targeting Maximum targets 4
Maximum targeting range 31250 m
Scan resolution 1125 mm
Sensor strength 0 0 8 0
Size/Movement Max velocity 1463.02
Inertia modifier 1.89
Signature radius 35 m
Cargo capacity 123.25 m3
Systems Capacitor capacity 412.5 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 1 minutes 45 seconds
Powergrid 29 / 58.75 MW
CPU 114.5 / 183.75 tf
Shields Shield capacity 375
Shield recharge time 7 minutes 48 seconds
Shield resistances 0% 50% 40% 20%
Armor Armor hit points 437.5
Armor resistances 50% 10% 35% 35%
Structure Structure hit points 500
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drones Drone capacity 0 m3
Drone bandwidth 0 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m
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<<NEW! Video of this fit in action can be found here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3mfGf_urew>>

<<Fit has been updated>>
<<Swapped out RCU for MAPC, one of the CCC's for a collision accelerator, upgraded to 150mm Rails and changed drone/ammo type. Result is that this loadout now sports a DPS of 68 which is a significant improvement from before. Opted to not try to shoehorn a MWD into the loadout simply because it requires a lot of skills to be able to get a workable fit from it, and if you have the skills to fly it effectively with a MWD chances are you're going to be flying something better than an Atron. >>

Been trying to fly the Atron for some solo lowsec pvp (don't ask) and this is the best setup I could come up with. I have flown it with moderate success and wanted to see what others have to say about it.

If you're wondering why railguns over blasters, well speed is the only thing this ship has going for it, and quite frankly stasis webs scare the shit out of me. Considering it's horrible tank to begin with I don't want to test out a blaster fit against other close ranged frigates.

Some stats (All skills lvl 5)

DPS: 68
speed: 1334 m/s
cap stable at 62%


Intended targets: slower closer ranged frigates like Punishers and Incursuses fit with afterburners.

The main idea is that you are going to want to dictate range. Orbiting at 18km and pelting them from afar it doesn't matter how pitiful the dps is, or how non-existent your tank is, if the target can't hit you. The hobgoblin II definitely helps your dps. And as long as you didn't screw up and let your target get close you can always disengage at will.


I've had success fighting against Incursuses and Tristans, and I would imagine being able to come out on top over a Punisher. I've even had success against a catalyst (was fitted with blasters). Made a Wolf disengage from me once as well (I'm just as surprised as you!)

There's a lot of manual flying involved to make sure you keep transversal up and so you don't accidentally get too close.

Cap stability is there because it's going to take a while to kill your opponent, and you want the afterburner on at all times.

I use it solo, though it can also be used as tackle for a gang.

Entire thing will cost you ~3.4 million which for me isn't much at all, and you can downgrade the guns if you really want to lower the cost further. I would recommend keeping the t2 disruptor for the extra 4km of tackling range. At 18km orbit range it's very easy for a target that knows it's in trouble to burn in the opposite direction that short 2km to freedom. I know I've had far too many targets escape because I cheaped out on the disruptor (including that Wolf I mentioned earlier >.<)

Although it may not be as effective as other frigates I must say I do enjoy flying this ship. The satisfaction of knowing you just made a kill flying the Atron of all things makes it worth flying for me.

Questions, Comments, Concerns?

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  • August 03, 2010, 02:45:21 am

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    I sorta kinda like the idea. Here are my thoughts:

    1. The DPS is more then meh. Even a weak frig at about 4k EHP will take (4000/23/60) 2.8 minutes to kill.

    2. Normally CCCs are a no-go for PvP, but in this case I guess they have a purpose.

    Ideas:

    Any chance you can fit a magstab? I'm guessing not due to the RCU...
    An Incursus would be better for obvious reasons, but I see the fun in flying this instead.

    What the hell, +1 for teh lulz.
  • August 03, 2010, 02:55:27 am

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    I think the stats you posted are for your char, at all lvl 5 i get more range + dps (with tungsten just the guns do 29 and have 19km optimal), I would say use a hob II because you won't want to be chasing fast inties either.

    When I was a noob, i used this exact same principal on a RAIL SLASHER (yes rail slasher, tech 1 rails ofc) and it worked amazingly well, yet very slowly, digging up this km:
    http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=7262407
    (he must not have been able to use the fofs he was carrying or some fail thing lol)
    and http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=7262409

    Once you get your skills up, swap out one of the cccs for a damage rig, and at ~50dps this should work very well. +1
  • August 03, 2010, 03:08:00 am

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    Played around with the fitting a little bit and it's possible to fit in a magstab if you switch out the RCU for a micro aux power core and downgrade the warp disruptor from a t2 to a named, although you would only raise the dps to 27 and your speed would drop to 1237 m/s, which isn't that much of a drop but the big thing would be that you'd lose that extra 4km of warp disruption range downgrading the disruptor.

    I personally don't think that swapping out the disruptor is worth the extra 4 dps but I could see it work if you were really careful about making sure your target doesn't get out of disruption range.


    also about the stats being for my character's skills rather than all at V, I plugged it into EFT and that's what it told me at all level V skills. Maybe I did it wrong and it's actually more dps than what I give credit for
    Thanks for the input :)

  • August 03, 2010, 03:46:56 am

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    ...and then a mwd frig comes, closes the range with you....you know the rest.

    I love range dictation frigs. But I believe they should be with mwd. With range dictating you are not betting your hull on the opponents inability to track you. You are betting it on staying out of enemy gun range. Thus a MWD for such a build is mandatory in my humble opinion.

    Reactor Control on a frig is no no. Use micro aux power core. When you use MAPC you'll have room for 150mm's AND MWD.

    Final product looks like this:


    [Atron, Battle Atron MK2]
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
    Capacitor Power Relay II

    Fleeting Warp Disruptor I
    Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

    150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
    150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S

    Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

    ...and it has 54 dps 14+11 range with CN Uranium (without drone) goes 3.3k/s and is capstable.

    In current state your fit is -1 for me. I may change it when I see improvement
  • August 03, 2010, 04:07:45 am

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    [Atron, Battle Atron MK2]
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
    Capacitor Power Relay II

    Fleeting Warp Disruptor I
    Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

    150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S
    150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge S

    Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
    Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

    That does look better than my setup, I'll test it out and change the posted setup it if I like how it flies.
  • August 03, 2010, 04:27:46 am

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    As to the MWD atron; that needs significantly more skills to make it remotely cap stable, and the idea with the AB atron/slasher is that because most frigates (eg: merlin, rifter, tristan, punisher) fit AB, and are the most common frigs, you can dictate range on those common frigs, without the worry of extra sig radius, massive cap penalties etc.

    For higher skilled and more experienced pilots, MWD is fine, but for gaining the edge on typical, stock-standard frigate builds as a lowish skilled pilot, I would still contest AB is the way to go; the atron is not a commonly used ship by players who have all lvl 5 skills in those areas.

    Definitely look into the MAPC though, they are better than RCU's on frigs.
  • August 03, 2010, 04:41:13 am

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    As to the MWD atron; that needs significantly more skills to make it remotely cap stable, and the idea with the AB atron/slasher is that because most frigates (eg: merlin, rifter, tristan, punisher) fit AB, and are the most common frigs, you can dictate range on those common frigs, without the worry of extra sig radius, massive cap penalties etc.

    This is true, it does need more skills to fly and AB is best against the intended targets, namely the more common AB frigs so I think my setup may be better for pilots who don't have that many skillpoints.

    I do want to test it out with the MWD setup though just to see how it performs (even though with my skills it isn't quite capstable). Only thing I don't like is that I have to orbit closer due to the downgraded disruptor, though the upgraded guns will hopefully make up for it.

    Still have to test it out with a MWD, though I'm hesitant to change the build to one with a MWD if only because as mentioned most people choosing to fly the Atron won't have the skills to fly the fit effectively.
  • August 03, 2010, 06:20:13 am

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    My skills aren't good enough to fly with the MWD...couldn't upgrade the guns and wasn't cap stable at all lol. Perhaps I'll give it a go when my skills improve but for now I'm sticking with the AB...although now I do want to find a way to fit the 150mm rails on...
  • August 03, 2010, 07:14:27 am

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    Updated the fit so that it has more than double the DPS output than before. Opted to not try to fit a MWD in, will have to live with not being able to engage MWD fitted frigates but hey, what more could you expect to get out of the Atron?
  • February 21, 2011, 03:01:50 pm

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    Rahknai might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. Rahknai might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. Rahknai might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. Rahknai might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. Rahknai might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up.

    A SWEET fit! Uber for the minor plexes as well. +1
  • October 18, 2011, 03:13:35 am

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    i'd have liked to see a mwd on that but cap might be a problem...but i like it