Loadout: Cynicism's Succubus
Cynicism's Succubus
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Ship fitting - Built on July 15, 2010
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Well as I said I had cross-trained Caldari and this is a little bonus to that training. Access to Sansha ships. This is my current fitting for my Succubus as she sits in my hanger. I'm still in the process of field testing but from what I have tested it works out very well. I'll explain the fitting in a moment for now lets look at the numbers:
Effective Hitpoints: 7,420 Shield Hitpoints: 2,385 Shield Resistances: 38.7%/51%/47.5%/56.3% Damage W/Scorch: 132 DPS / 230 Volley (152/264 W/Heat) Damage Range W/Scorch: 10+1.9km Damage W/Multi: 166 DPS / 288 (190/331 W/Heat) Damage Range W/Multi: 3.4+1.9km Capacitor Life: Stable @ 44% (Stable @ 68% W/O Neut/Nos) Speed: 979m/s (1289m/s W/Heat) Signature: 47.3m Scan Resoultion: 812.5mm It may look a little confused at first, but it's all there for a reason, and I'll break it down. The Neutralizer and Nosferatu combination actually do work nice when used properly. Your capacitor is stable without either, so cycle the neutralizer until you are low, then cycle it off and cycle on the noferatu. Being lower than your target it will still drain them to replenish your own capacitor. Rinse and repeat over the course of the fight. Nosferatu will also help when you are engaging a larger ship or are being neutralized yourself. Scrambler and web are there to help control range when fighting other frigates. As common frigs are armor tanked you should have the speed advantage to aid in this. When engaging a kitable ship I suggest using scorch and play into your strength which is mid range damage with scorch crystals. The rest of the fitting is pretty basic. Damage control helps the shields and toughens your other two lines of defense. I find it needed. You can replace it with a Power Diagnostic if you really feel inclined but I like having one. There are some upgrades I may complete if I feel it's warranted, they are: Gistii B-Type 1MN Afterburner. True Sansha Small Neutralizer and Nosferatu. Tech II Small Anti-EM/Thermal rigs. More speed and better range on those capacitor modules seems worth it but I'm not sure if it's worth doubling the cost of the ship. Time will tell and we'll find out as I continue to fly it. As I said this is my personal fitting, comments and criticism are welcome. Please vote. |
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July 15, 2010, 03:56:32 pmRear Admiral
Reputation: 495
Seems right. -
July 15, 2010, 03:58:07 pm
Commander
Reputation: 223
Thanks. -
July 15, 2010, 04:17:26 pm
Ensign
Reputation: 63
Looks Good +1
If you were going to pimp out this fit I would suggest going for the tackle instead of the neuts. Afterburner would be nice but the faction neuts are about 50mil each last I looked, nos are pretty cheap I would assume.
You could get like a DG web for about 15-20mil which has 13km range and then like a shadow serp scram for about 30-35mil which has 3pt and longer range. Neither are necessary but will probably be more useful than the faction neut for cost/effectiveness.
p.s. If you don't go with faction web/scram then I would suggest meta 4 as they can be overloaded longer than t2, same with neut/nos (those are cheaper too) -
July 15, 2010, 04:24:26 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
Last time I looked the Sansha neutralizer was around 20mil and I think the nosferatu was cheaper. The afterburner was to allow for better speed which in a frigate can be life or death. I'll look into the web and scram though I didn't think about those as possible upgrades due to cost. Thanks for the vote. -
July 15, 2010, 04:43:45 pm
Master Chief Petty Officer
Reputation: 72
LOOKS like it might do well as a Dramiel killer. It certainly has all the things you'd need to take one out. In fact it LOOKS like a good counter for any frigate bar Minmatar T2.
But I'm afraid a Jaguar can do everything this does, better. Most of the assault frigs can, in fact. Dramiel and Daredevil too, if you fit them in the same way. More DPS, more speed, more EHP, same tackle. Sansha ships are rather weak, and no matter how good a fit is, if the ship is bad, it won't perform well.
EDIT: Emphasized the word "Looks" since it wasn't clear before...
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July 15, 2010, 04:45:14 pm
Captain
Reputation: 183
What sort of situation would this be used in? -
July 15, 2010, 05:10:20 pm
CommanderReputation: 322
A nice fit for a Succubus - but those last 3 words are the key. I hate to admit it but Demolishar has a point, this thing really doesn't compare well to most tech 2, let alone other pirate frigates.
You've at least got good stats and good reasoning out of it so +1 for that but debatable if it's worth using. -
July 15, 2010, 05:13:40 pm
CaptainReputation: 68
i don't think you've ever posted a bad fit before
+1 looks good as always -
July 15, 2010, 05:55:22 pm
Commodore
Reputation: 0
fail bus is fail
+1 -
July 15, 2010, 06:14:27 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
Possible uses are of course for frigate roams, or duels. Though more conventional uses would be as tackle in shield gangs or roams. I mean there are other ships out there that would do a better job but it's a fun little ship to fly, and that's what makes it worth the price. -
July 15, 2010, 07:21:32 pm
Petty Officer 1st. Class
Reputation: 13
Would swapping the 2 Core Defence Field Extenders for a Anti-Thermal and Anti-Kinetic rigs do much? -
July 15, 2010, 07:25:04 pm
CommodoreReputation: 483
good fit +1 -
July 15, 2010, 08:06:04 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
Would swapping the 2 Core Defence Field Extenders for a Anti-Thermal and Anti-Kinetic rigs do much?
The Anti-Thermal rig wouldn't be a bad idea. You'll loose some hitpoints but filling a commonly used hole is always a good idea. The Anti-Kinetic rig causes a sharp drop in effective when used in conjunction with the thermal. So your best bet would probably be to use Anti-EM/Anti-Thermal/Core Extender.
When I fought a Worm that used Hobgoblins they did hurt. So it may be worth it. -
July 15, 2010, 08:33:36 pm
CaptainReputation: 183
--Work In Progress-- -
July 15, 2010, 08:37:47 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
This loadout has been updated with a Anti-Thermal Rig in place of a second extender.
The reason I did it was because drones will be able to hit this ship and gallente drones are very common. When facing a ship that can choose between warriors or hobgoblins chances are I'll be facing the hobgoblins as this ship is slow enough for them to work decently, and it's shield buffered so explosive isn't the best.
Before the swap I had 6,764 effective versus thermal damage.
Once swapped I have 7,713 effective versus thermal damage.
With only a drop of 203 effective versus uniform damage. -
July 15, 2010, 08:42:38 pm
Rear Admiral
Reputation: 894
Looks good. -
July 15, 2010, 09:28:10 pm
Lieutenant
Reputation: 204
I like. +1 -
July 15, 2010, 10:47:58 pm
Petty Officer 1st. ClassReputation: 13
I like the EM/Therm/Extender combo. +1 -
July 15, 2010, 10:59:13 pm
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Reputation: 63
this ship is a pain to fit, well fitted. -
July 16, 2010, 01:42:35 am
EnsignReputation: 159
sansha ships <3 yaaarrrrr +1 -
July 16, 2010, 05:04:48 am
Master Chief Petty OfficerReputation: 24
I'm Cynical about this fit...
+1
Seems like a good little bleeder ship to hunt larger prey too, slowly leech them away whilst you hold them for ransom, teehee...
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July 16, 2010, 10:20:16 am
CommanderReputation: 273
That's how I fit mine. We should write a book together. "The Joy of Killing: Lazors and Neuts are Your Friends"
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July 16, 2010, 12:10:23 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
That's how I fit mine. We should write a book together. "The Joy of Killing: Lazors and Neuts are Your Friends"
Instant best seller. I wonder if our Phantasms will be fit the same. -
July 16, 2010, 03:56:33 pm
CommanderReputation: 273
That's how I fit mine. We should write a book together. "The Joy of Killing: Lazors and Neuts are Your Friends"
Instant best seller. I wonder if our Phantasms will be fit the same.
Patchy? I just finished fitting her this morning. >:3 -
July 29, 2010, 03:18:59 am
CommanderReputation: 223
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July 29, 2010, 03:28:43 am
CaptainReputation: 183
--Work In Progress--
How's that coming along?
Well I was going to talk about rigs and then insult you for using such an underperforming ship, but CBA. -
July 30, 2010, 10:55:22 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
I'd suggest throwing a recommend tag on this, it's the highest rated Succubus fitting on here anyways. -
July 31, 2010, 04:52:50 am
Rear AdmiralReputation: 894
I'd suggest throwing a recommend tag on this, it's the highest rated Succubus fitting on here anyways.
Fine... -
July 31, 2010, 12:34:06 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
I'd suggest throwing a recommend tag on this, it's the highest rated Succubus fitting on here anyways.
Fine...
Hey I'd do it myself if I could lol, besides there were no recommended fittings for the Succubus anyways. -
July 31, 2010, 12:36:00 pm
CaptainReputation: 68
it deserves it -
July 31, 2010, 12:38:04 pm
CommanderReputation: 223
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January 17, 2011, 01:08:11 pm
Crewman Novice
Reputation: 19
I was gonna post mine but I saw this first
I use mine with a Gistii B-Type AB and faction neut and nos. Also rigs are 1x T2 em and 2x CDFE. It is THE Succubus fit and I can vouch - it is amazing for solo and gang pvp and is VERY underrated.
Also +1 -
April 09, 2011, 03:27:56 am
Member 5th Class
Reputation: 1
how can u get all those stuff on it? i need more CPU to get it running , im doing my engineering to lvl 5 so i can bring all stuff online also how can u get CPU with skills?
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April 13, 2011, 11:46:32 pm
Lieutenant, Junior GradeReputation: 63
also how can u get CPU with skills?
Weapon upgrades
Electronics
Others that affect CPU:
Energy grid upgrades?
Electronic upgrades? -
July 07, 2011, 01:46:16 pm
Member 4th Class
Reputation: 5
I looked up fits to see how they compared to mine. I had the extender rig as a nother EM resist rig, but apart from that it was completely the same
I think I'll keep my 2nd EM resist rig because it increases EHP against EMP projectile bullets and T2 lasers. Might change to the extender once I'e been Hobgobbled to death a few times hehehe...
+1
