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• Crunchbite36

  May 21, 2010, 01:00:10 pm

  
  

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  Seriously get t2 guns.
• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 01:10:05 pm

  
  

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• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 01:14:32 pm

  
  

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  any comments guys?
• Carbon Shadow

  May 21, 2010, 01:32:45 pm

  
  

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  i like it
• dukenewcomb9

  May 21, 2010, 01:32:49 pm

  
  

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  gist x? isnt that like 88gazilloin isk?
• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 01:40:42 pm

  
  

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  No its not that bad actually its 500 million at Jita prices.
  
  This is actually my current loadout (minus the T2 I have domination 800mm autocannons due to skills)
  
  To be honest it is really fit for solo missions for tank and it should produce enough gank to sit there and basically 1-2 shot most ships (Obviously not NPC BS's but anything smaller should is usually 1-2 shot dead) 
• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 02:13:29 pm

  
  

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  oh come on guys don't rate negative if you don't leave a reason
• crimbizzle

  May 21, 2010, 02:14:39 pm

  
  

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  I like it, but to clarify, you still have somewhat of a hole in your EM, even CN invuls won't give you 70% by themselves.  You also only get that 750/sec when you overload your booster.  Only other thing seems to be you have WAY WAY WAY too much capacitor.  Even with just t1 CCC's, no pdu, and no nos I'm showing 25 minutes of that booster running.  That ought to be way more than enough for any lvl IV mission out there.  A fourth RF Gyro will take your gun DPS from 883 to 942, totally worth it imho.  Keep the nos and use it to bolster your cap once you get tackled by the NPC frigs
• crimbizzle

  May 21, 2010, 02:23:32 pm

  
  

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  Also, in the interest of full disclosure, you ought to mention that the 1.5-2B you have sunk into those boost amps buys you approximately 50 more defense without your crystals and only another 68 with them.  Still I like this setup.  +1
• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 02:26:58 pm

  
  

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  Im running at 18 minutes without being "cap stable"
  
  also that 750 hp per cycle is without overloading the booster or the amps. its normal for running.
  
  that is also without counting the natural shield recharge rate at 17 hp / second
• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 02:31:58 pm

  
  

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  If I take off the PDU I will put the 4th gyro
• snakeboy987

  May 21, 2010, 02:34:11 pm

  
  

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  [Machariel, PVE]
  Domination Gyrostabilizer
  Domination Gyrostabilizer
  Domination Gyrostabilizer
  Domination Tracking Enhancer
  Domination Tracking Enhancer
  Domination Tracking Enhancer
  Damage Control II
  
  100MN Afterburner II
  Ballistic Deflection Field II
  Ballistic Deflection Field II
  Shield Boost Amplifier II
  Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
  
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  Small Tractor Beam I
  
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  
  
  Hammerhead II x5
  
  tbh use this, its got speed which helps alot and its got enough tank with equal gank and its cap stable.
  *fixed*
• snakeboy987

  May 21, 2010, 02:35:02 pm

  
  

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  oh and so you know nos's don't work on rats or if they do, to a little extent.
• SickSeven

  May 21, 2010, 02:35:20 pm

  
  

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  -1 for no AB
• Corollax

  May 21, 2010, 02:39:44 pm

  
  

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  Overtanked. Takes too long to get to gates. Fit an AB.
• Crunchbite36

  May 21, 2010, 02:40:23 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: snakeboy987 on May 21, 2010, 02:34:11 pm

  [Machariel, PVE]
  Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
  Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
  Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
  Domination Tracking Enhancer
  Domination Tracking Enhancer
  Domination Tracking Enhancer
  Damage Control II
  
  100MN Afterburner II
  Ballistic Deflection Field II
  Ballistic Deflection Field II
  Shield Boost Amplifier II
  Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
  
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
  Small Tractor Beam I
  
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  
  
  Hammerhead II x5
  
  tbh use this, its got speed which helps alot and its got enough tank with equal gank and its cap stable.
  

  LOL magstabs and autocannons.
• snakeboy987

  May 21, 2010, 02:57:38 pm

  
  

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  rofl sorry, its late and iv had a few
• crimbizzle

  May 21, 2010, 03:43:40 pm

  
  

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  Ahhhh K.  Lowgrade crystals but the regular Omega, I missed that.
  
  Dunno what to say about the length of your tank.  Without the PDU or the NOS, and with only CCC I's my EFT says you are good for a solid 24 minutes.  If you are only running this tank for 18 minutes it sounds like you may need Shield Compensation IV or V.  Or better cap skills...  Still 18 minutes should be more than enough.  Your sustained defense is almost three times what it needs to be for a lvl IV mission in either case.  I'd still drop the PDU for another Gyro
• DreadNaught723

  May 21, 2010, 03:52:24 pm

  
  

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  faction, or t3 pve ships shouldn't have almost no market items besides for the guns and rigs. and should have high end faction and dead space load outs. Because hell might as well make the ship invincible and be able to kill faster also. because it nots like you can over fit a pve ship.
• dasrufken

  May 21, 2010, 03:57:44 pm

  
  

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  this fit needs more +1's!!!
  
  i dont see why people hate it when you overtank something that you really would'nt like to lose... i overtank my dominix because its the first battleship i ever bought for my own isk and i dont want it to blow up. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OVERTANKING.
  
  people have to stop thinking about isk per hour and start thinking about the amount of effort you put in missioning instead.
  
  i would rather do missions slowly in my overtanked drone dominix with one gun for aggro than in anything any of you isk per hour whores have made.
• SickSeven

  May 21, 2010, 04:41:20 pm

  
  

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  dasrufken, it still deserves -1 for no propulsion mod. how is he going to get in range of orbiting battleships? Hoborak Moon would run circles around this ship.
• Kerguelen

  May 21, 2010, 07:27:04 pm

  
  

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  +1 but.....I do think it needs an A/B to be truly effective. You'll loosen up over time and not have such a tight grip in what is an expensive ship/loadout. Its pretty cool at 700+ms in a B/S 
  
  You did say though you didn't mind not havng A/B so its still a pretty solid fit.
• Archangel Auditores

  May 21, 2010, 07:29:02 pm

  
  

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  I suppose it need some tweeks.
  
  There are mixed feelings because I can tell people love the tank and gank but are all about the AB burning.
  
  My concern is cap stability and maximizing my tank and gank at the same time!
  
  I love all ur thoughts and options.
  
  now...can someone put out using a shield tank with a large booster, and pith shield boost amp but change what they feel needs to be changed?
  
  ISK's per hour really mean nothing to me....I care more about faction standings and mission blitzing...something tells me I will be called noob because people say THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU FIT AN AB YOU RTARD!
  
  but still...The gank, price in general that is spent on it...the tank makes it look like a beast...and the damage mods makes it a near sniping ship that will pump out long range damage while sitting like a brick!
  
  wait 2 minutes to get to the acceleration gate....it will get some cap back!
• dasrufken

  May 22, 2010, 03:30:11 am

  
  

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  Quote from: SickSeven on May 21, 2010, 04:41:20 pm

  dasrufken, it still deserves -1 for no propulsion mod. how is he going to get in range of orbiting battleships? Hoborak Moon would run circles around this ship.
  

  
  what range does he orbit from? because when i put this setup in EFT it shows that the guns have 83km range (optimal+falloff)
  
  it can even hit out to 100+km with barrage, and if you're flying machariels in missions you have enough ISK to use T2 ammo in missions
  
  i have never seen an angel rat orbit at further than 50km so this setup has more than enough range..
• Sarah Norbulk

  May 22, 2010, 04:58:45 am

  
  

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  Overtanked. Drop a boost amp for an AB and the PDS for another Gyro.
• knutuperkurk

  May 22, 2010, 05:59:16 am

  
  

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  rofl I can think of alot better things to spend 4.5b on tbh
• Archangel Auditores

  May 22, 2010, 09:04:50 am

  
  

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  lol 4.5 billion on something else?
  
  Well for the moment I have a pimped out and OP battleship that I am very proud of.
  
  Maybe when I get enough to get an officer inv field then I will pull out an AB.
  
  otherwise I think for now it will work very smoothly and for overtanked? yeah....atleast I know I dont need to worry to to much about going kaaboomm when i warp in!
• Eljared Crescent

  May 23, 2010, 10:52:09 am

  
  

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  i would say a pithum A-type med shield instead of that large ... and its not even close from perfect ... cause nothing is perfect.
  
  also AB you retarded noob (sorry for the YrN but you called it) the strength of the mach is his speed... even for pve
  
  [Machariel, Machariel: v2.]
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Gyrostabilizer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Tracking Enhancer II
  Damage Control II
  
  Gist C-Type 100MN Afterburner
  Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
  Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field
  Gist B-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
  Gist B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
  
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I
  Small Tractor Beam I
  
  Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
  Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
  Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
  
  
  Hammerhead II
  Ogre II
  Hobgoblin II
  
  my old fit (t2 large auto are on  the way) also on last upgrade in game i switched gist stuff to pith stuff for mids and RF gyro's and Domi TC, the dc for a 4th gyro)
• Firelord_Ozai

  May 26, 2010, 10:21:03 am

  
  

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  Looks fine except for the lack of AB.  I mean, if you want to be slowboating like other BS's then your missing out on what a mach is.  Other then that, mach can pretty much be anything y
• Archangel Auditores

  May 26, 2010, 10:44:30 am

  
  

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