Loadout: Solo PvP Rifter
Solo PvP Rifter
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Ship fitting - Built on September 7, 2007
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I've had huge success with this setup. You have the ability to change out all t2's with named if you aren't able to fit them. EMP S is in cargo in case you come up against shield tankers and just for general versatility in damage type.
This setup is for killing other frigs and cruisers. Orbit at 500m and most medium turrets won't be able to track you. Little cap dependency, great damage, good tank. |
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September 11, 2007, 01:46:15 pm
Nice. I love the Rifter. It was my first 'real' ship and I still have a huge soft spot for it. This is very similar to my old fitting, but I had 2 200s and 2 rocket launchers.
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September 12, 2007, 07:19:22 am
I've had huge success with this setup. You have the ability to change out all t2's with named if you aren't able to fit them. EMP S is in cargo in case you come up against shield tankers and just for general versatility in damage type.
This setup is for killing other frigs and cruisers. Orbit at 500m and most medium turrets won't be able to track you. Little cap dependency, great damage, good tank.
Agreed with you but using 3 x 200mm t2 might be better result. -
September 12, 2007, 07:39:52 am
Looks good to me ! -
September 12, 2007, 11:15:47 am
This setup looks completely solid. Basic cookie cutter rifter solo setup. Fived. -
November 27, 2007, 01:02:03 am
This loadout doenst work, the rifter just doesnt have enough CPU. or do i not have enough skills?
please help
(i have electonics lvl5) -
November 27, 2007, 01:35:24 am
your lvl in all skill that finish with "upgrades" (weapons, energy, shield, repair, . . .)? -
November 27, 2007, 09:15:30 am
i think you need more skill, this setup with AB i can even fit a 20k sramble. use 7.5 if you can't fit in. -
November 28, 2007, 12:22:17 am
id advise usin a 7.5 scram all the time, its harder to catch ure prey, but saves a heap of cap when ure in battle. well on frigs that is, unless ure using a passive tank, missiles, no ab and nothing else that uses cap
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December 05, 2007, 05:05:24 am
I'd reccomend using a mid-range named Gyrostab and any 7.5km scram instead of the T2 one in addition to dropping the 'Arby' rocket for a OE-5200 or worse purely for saving about 3.8M (bring the entire fit to about 3M to 3.5M at worst) of the ship+fit cost at the expense of a small performance hit. Improves cost-efficency, you see.
Otherwise, this is a very good Rifter fit for piracy, I've used this or similar fits for a while with preety good success from killing frigs, to noob destroyer and noob cruiser pilots, to stupid interceptor and stealth bomber pilots. Good ship.
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December 05, 2007, 04:51:42 pm
Pretty much the classic Rifter fit. If you are new and wondering how to fit a Rifter, just like this, but use cheap T1 gear instead.
I got an Interceptor with a fit like this, but all vanilla. -
January 16, 2008, 01:39:39 pm
The problem with this setup IMHO is that for PVP the advantage of the rifter is that its a cheap as chips but still great frig.
If you are using this for its purpose you WILL lose it eventually and i reckon the odds are on that it will be way before you pay of all that tech 2 milarky! -
January 16, 2008, 01:44:23 pm
some people use a nos instead of the rocket launcher. -
January 16, 2008, 05:02:36 pm
I used to ran a similar setup, cept I had a nano instead of the gyro for a tight orbit, and a MWD rather than an AB
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February 14, 2008, 02:05:31 pm
Medium smart bombs will rip this thing to shreads. I wouldn't use such short range guns if attacking a cruiser or higher. This ship will kill unsuspecting noobs but thats about it. -
February 14, 2008, 02:43:11 pm
most frigs are expendable darheel. Of course it will be shredded to pieces most frigs would be. Its for solo work and its playing to the rifters stong points. I have been flying this fit just T1 in 0.0 for awhile now and i really do enjoy it. -
February 25, 2008, 09:50:36 pm
Why Barrage ammo when orbiting at 500m instead of Hail? Not picking on the choice, just new. -
February 26, 2008, 06:45:50 am
you'd actually carry both and switch as situation warrents -
March 16, 2008, 05:03:37 pm
if you are willing to spend the isk, go with republic fleet emp s, you won't have the tracking penalties, and better dps. -
April 06, 2008, 08:02:32 am
I dunno why people have given it 4 thumbs down
its a very good setup and its cheap so if someone does have a smartbomb then if u die u dont really need to care about losing it thumbs up from me -
April 06, 2008, 01:54:11 pm
people are finicky when they choose to rate. -
April 12, 2008, 10:26:46 am
You have no cap with this set-up. Even when not running the AB, the webber, and the scram your cap will only last you a minute and a half. The idea behind a tackler is speed and scraming and this layout does not support that. Don't get me wrong, I love the rifter for a cheap tackler but this layout doesn't work. Worst case: you are only running the AB, the scram, and the armor rep. Your cap will be gone in 48 seconds. The plates and the AB also greatly reduce your max speed so you will get insta poped before you are even in scram range. This setup will get you killed before you even have the chance to say "WTF just happened?". Solo in 0.0? Hardly. I gave it a thumbs down...
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April 12, 2008, 02:23:39 pm
You have no cap with this set-up. Even when not running the AB, the webber, and the scram your cap will only last you a minute and a half. The idea behind a tackler is speed and scraming and this layout does not support that. Don't get me wrong, I love the rifter for a cheap tackler but this layout doesn't work. Worst case: you are only running the AB, the scram, and the armor rep. Your cap will be gone in 48 seconds. The plates and the AB also greatly reduce your max speed so you will get insta poped before you are even in scram range. This setup will get you killed before you even have the chance to say "WTF just happened?". Solo in 0.0? Hardly. I gave it a thumbs down...
Umm, what? I run a tech II afb, and best named scram and webbers on my rifter with stable cap, all at once. Are we playing the same game? -
April 12, 2008, 02:47:25 pm
umm, maybe you should have looked at this setup a little better. Yes you can run an AB, scram, and a webber with a stable cap. Add a armor rep and your cap goes to shit. -
April 12, 2008, 03:16:46 pm
You should be in close enough, moving fast enough to not get hit, and shouldnt need the repper on all the time. I agree the plate is slowing this set up down to much. Prob better of with overdrives and nanos, and have the repper in cargo for repair between ops.
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April 12, 2008, 06:26:57 pm
Its a standard pvp variation. It works fine... doesn't need to be cap stable.
If you haven't killed the guy by the time your cap runs out then you aren't going to kill him alone.
Not everything has to be cap stable to work. Most of the time the repper is for after the fight anyway. SS up rep your damage and get back to yarring. No frigate will ever be the uberest of uberest. Its a frigate. But this is a solid pvp ship for any newb. -
April 12, 2008, 08:12:58 pm
flying fast and in close is fun but you will get webbed with a hand full of drones on you, this is a fun low skill point loadout imo, but you will lose a lot of this ship, so i'd drop everything to second or third rank named items, or fit it with rat droppings that you have lying around -
April 24, 2008, 02:53:58 pm
Nice. I love the Rifter. It was my first 'real' ship and I still have a huge soft spot for it. This is very similar to my old fitting, but I had 2 200s and 2 rocket launchers.
o7, the rifter was probably the first "real" ship for many ppl
I still keep one as a salvager, for lack of time to train for a better salvager, and for love of the rifter -
April 25, 2008, 05:44:53 am
well, big up to this I have to say. ws training for it couple weeks and yesterday tried it out first. its dmg output turned out for me to be surprisingly high.
killed a shadow serpentis brutix and swarm of npc frigs in up to 5 minutes (didn't try it in pvp yet because couldnt find good targets in systems around me and I still have to add some extra bits of training to squeeze the best out of this setup, so I didn't risk going against cruisers yet where the outcome would be questionnable).
cycling the SAR II (and I only needed it once) ws no problem at all for capacitor
and plates are maybe even good because at such a tight orbit slowing down the ship little bit adds more dmg to guns (ok, this is a noob assumption maybe) -
May 02, 2008, 01:26:12 pm
this is a good fit but my main problem is going solo PvP. there is never any one to fight in other frigs and if u engage at gates or stations your toast. its best done in a fleets cos 9 times out of 10 you will come across others in cruisers, BC or BS.
but the fit is good and a thumbs up for me -
May 02, 2008, 01:37:38 pm
I hope we can get this guys fit enough thumbs up to beat the passive drake
I love this fit though big thums up from me
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May 09, 2008, 07:03:33 am
great fit for taking down small ships and new players -
June 02, 2008, 04:38:49 pm
Would you be able to fly around and ransom mining ships with this ship? im pretty new to this and im flying a cruiser thats fitted for Missioning. What would be the best ship to ransom miners with? -
June 05, 2008, 02:53:37 am
dont know about the best ship (doubt that anyone could name it in EVE), but this setup is good for taking down hulks and co. and ofc ransoming if you want so -
June 05, 2008, 08:05:24 am
Question,
Add in MWD on this and this is basically a Tackler yea? How does the cap work with a MWD instead of AB, anyone know?
Oh yea... sweet setup.
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June 05, 2008, 11:33:43 am
Damn, it is hella good loadout xD I am 2 months old char and i >>almost<< killed 12 moths old chars (still waiting for T2 AC's)
But i would swap RL with some Vampire or something similar (repairer really sucking my cap). Oh and why AB than MWD (propably cap 
)? Anyway, BIG PLUS for ya, thanks;)
The MWD makes your sig 5x larger, everything will hit you harder, esp. missiles, and even when inactive, hurts your cap -
June 06, 2008, 07:09:44 am
Captain Rex already said it, mythumbs arent going up
Ive run this sort of set up years ago on Claws and Jaguars but your one misses some massive points.
You are running Auto cannons yet arent quick enough to make range , where are you thinking these fights are going to start ? You can run the repper , what like 3 times before you have no cap ?
What are you thinking this kills ? I'll tell you what it dies against, ANYTHING with a Web , any inty with blasters or ac's, any cruiser with half a tank and drones.
I'm loving the fact you are flying old school and cheap as it means you are probably playing eve for fun and not this ga.y blob warfare but you just dont have cap to last long enough -
June 06, 2008, 11:38:53 am
To the poster above me, the only problem with this loadout is the rocket launcher - should be a small NOS. Good nav skills will allow a frigate to run an AB forever (you'll regen more cap naturally then you lose from the AB, even with mediocre cap management skills), the AB keeps your sig radius frigate-sized (an MWD would make you a huge target for medium/large guns). But yeah, the repper won't run long. A small NOS makes the repper almost perma-runnable.
The poster above me says it can be killed by anything with drones and a webber - I say this is not so. It can be killed by anything with Warrior II drones, sure. It can be killed by any missile boat larger than itself, sure. But I have never, ever had a problem killing any other type of drone. Where does the fight start? In the belts, of course. Frigates can't engage on gates or stations in lowsec, the Sentry Guns will eat you alive.
Find your mark, anything BC or smaller, in a belt, at a planet, w/e. Warp in. Make your way to it (I get 930m/sec in a Rifter with AB 2 and a 200mm RT plate), put your point, web and NOS on the target ship, kill the drones it releases then turn your guns on the helpless mark. Because of your low sig radius, medium guns will barely touch you - you'll only have to worry about missiles so Caracals are a nightmare to try to kill and Drakes are out of the question (even if you COULD break their passive tank, which you couldn't). Once the mark's shield is stripped by Republic Fleet EMP S, switch to HAIL S (not Barrage) and munch on armor and hull at your leisure. Just keep spamming the d-scan and watch out for the cavalry.
I do this every single day that I'm not in 0.0 flying larger ships - I love my frigates in lowsec, especially the Rifter (it's more exciting than flying the Wolf because it's less durable = more danger involved).Question,
Add in MWD on this and this is basically a Tackler yea? How does the cap work with a MWD instead of AB, anyone know?
Oh yea... sweet setup.
If you put an MWD on instead of the AB, you're better off running 2 Overdrive IIs and a Nanofiber II or a Gyro II in the low slots 'cause even if you put a NOS on it, you won't be able to run the repper long enough for it to matter at all. But, if you're going to go for speed, fly the Vigil instead. A corpmate has a Vigil he uses to tackle with that is almost as fast as an interceptor (over 6km/sec
) but I don't know his loadout 'cause I've never asked and he hasn't lost one yet so the killboard won't tell me his sekrits. -
June 24, 2008, 07:05:00 pm
FYI - Not to contradict you on the "low sig radius point", but a Rifter with MWD II, two overdrives, and a nano will get you up around 3500m/s +/- 500 depending on your skills. With good engineering skills, and no repper you can run it for about 4-5 minutes if I recall correctly.
However, this is really just for tackling. Some people cannot afford to do pvp in tech II frigs, I think long-timers forget that-10mil doesn't seem like a lot to them- But if you are poor, or have low skills, and want to have fun doing pvp, the rifter is the ship for you.
Great setup by the way. -
July 06, 2008, 08:48:52 pm
Not an efficient fit with the armor repper.
At 500m orbit faster tracking guns will do more DPS. Better off orbiting at 1000-2000m with the 200mmACs. -
July 06, 2008, 11:46:02 pm
Not an efficient fit with the armor repper.
You're not pirating all the nubbins in caracals and stuff without a armour rep. If you're menaging to mitigate some damage (if you don't, you'll die anyway, you're not winning a gank/tank game with something bigger then you) the armour rep will give you more extra HP then upgrading to a say, 400mm plate would.
For a solo Rifter, I'd always want to have the SAR. And you can run it decently long with perfect cap skills which you need for thermodynamics anyway. It's a skillset you simply should have.
I prefer to use the DC instead of the gyrostab (for more effective HP and more repping efficency at the expense of some damage, both are valid fits with their advantages and disadvantages though).At 500m orbit faster tracking guns will do more DPS. Better off orbiting at 1000-2000m with the 200mmACs.
I'm quite sure vs larger targets 200s will do fine at 500m, particularly if you're going to be webbed. The ship gets 25% tracking on top of already solid small ACs, makes it quite awesome. I use 150s, though, for price considerations; I prefer my Rifters cheap, and it saves me a mil per Rifter.
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July 07, 2008, 02:56:22 am
What, is it old home week for the rifter? I have seen so many rifter fits lately. Well, it is a good ship. Thumbs up for the King of Frigates. -
July 07, 2008, 03:26:33 am
I used the fitting vs cruisers and other frigates, it's great...
Once I used it vs another rifter who had this fitting but with a nos...i just owned him -
July 07, 2008, 03:34:45 am
i used to fly with a nos before the nerf bat, that rocked. -
July 07, 2008, 02:14:17 pm
niiice fit
let me help with the thumbs up, wanna see the pasive drake finally getting beat by something else -
July 07, 2008, 02:53:30 pm
i think the obelisk beat the drake ^^ -
July 07, 2008, 04:43:32 pm
simo -
July 08, 2008, 01:10:25 am
i think the obelisk beat the drake ^^
yeah ok but.... -
July 12, 2008, 10:18:20 pm
Not an efficient fit with the armor repper.
You're not pirating all the nubbins in caracals and stuff without a armour rep. If you're menaging to mitigate some damage (if you don't, you'll die anyway, you're not winning a gank/tank game with something bigger then you) the armour rep will give you more extra HP then upgrading to a say, 400mm plate would.
For a solo Rifter, I'd always want to have the SAR. And you can run it decently long with perfect cap skills which you need for thermodynamics anyway. It's a skillset you simply should have.
I prefer to use the DC instead of the gyrostab (for more effective HP and more repping efficency at the expense of some damage, both are valid fits with their advantages and disadvantages though).At 500m orbit faster tracking guns will do more DPS. Better off orbiting at 1000-2000m with the 200mmACs.
I'm quite sure vs larger targets 200s will do fine at 500m, particularly if you're going to be webbed. The ship gets 25% tracking on top of already solid small ACs, makes it quite awesome. I use 150s, though, for price considerations; I prefer my Rifters cheap, and it saves me a mil per Rifter.
Fair enough on the 200 Acs. I think you could fit either 125 or 200. Both will have their advantages, like 125s against drones. It's just my preference to fit high tracking guns and the OP did mention engaging at 500m.
I would still carry the SAR in the cargo hold but not sure I'd want to fit it. You're cap would last all of 45secs in a battle even with good skills according to EFT; and be repping 26 DPS - is there any ship in the game that can't crack that? If you get nosed the repper's almost useless. If you're roaming around and getting into lots of different situations I can understand it being a versatile module to have just don't expect to win any intense battles. Your tactics would be hit and run, repeat.
If you want the repper on you'd be better off with a NOS, then you'd have two modules complimenting each other.
I just don't see this fit, as it is, as particularly special. Basically it's what I imagine a newb would fit after doing some PvE. -
July 13, 2008, 03:29:27 am
I run a hardener, and a buffer, instead of the repper. I also run 2x 125s and 2 xrockets. I like popping million isk drones, and watching them get so mad as half their dps washes away.
I also rig the little buggers, you can make the rigs at about 1.75 mils, each, and the edge it gives is so nice. Be that in terms of armor resists, damage out put, even more insane tracking, or optimal range or fallof, all these are cheap examples of adding the extra push. -
July 21, 2008, 11:56:15 am
dont like the setup repper is just an overkill for the cap and its not that efficent on a rifter also the lack of mwd makes u easy kill for anything that has web, i flyed a similar setup and its bad (maybe becouse the setup is old?). tho i give the thumbs down not becouse is that bad its just not worth so many thumbs ups..
what about a dcu+400plate it gives him a huge buffer (for a rifter) and u can still fit mwd and scram and even web only lose a bit of dps which in a sense u dont need it since u dont get hit much from biger ships and have tank good enough to fight frigates -
July 22, 2008, 12:08:22 am
dont like the setup repper is just an overkill for the cap and its not that efficent on a rifter also the lack of mwd makes u easy kill for anything that has web, i flyed a similar setup and its bad (maybe becouse the setup is old?). tho i give the thumbs down not becouse is that bad its just not worth so many thumbs ups..
what about a dcu+400plate it gives him a huge buffer (for a rifter) and u can still fit mwd and scram and even web only lose a bit of dps which in a sense u dont need it since u dont get hit much from biger ships and have tank good enough to fight frigates
well, I dont agree with that categorical approach. it is bad to fight some ship types ofc, but it is very good against others. and I sense a tackler approach from your favouring the MWD and buffer and sacrificing the dps, but actually the primary goal of this setup is not a tackler, but rather gank frig (ofc it can tackle too).
this setup is exactly at its best against bigger ships, best anticruiser frig actually. cause for frigates you better fit 150 ac's
I dont get the point of fitting a DC to it - it definitely wouldnt give such a HUGE buffer since rifter has really pesky hull hp's.
400 plate would make you too slow for frigates, and believe me, those 3-4 cycles of repping you manage to get from that repper gives you far more effective hp than that buffer. (I fly the similar setup and once I and my corpmate set up a fight with my rifter against his blasteranis - wanted to know how much it would tank. nothing to say about that I've almost killed him - and more experienced pilot than me definitely would - my rifter tanked 4000+ dps. quite good result for a frig isn't it?)
exactly from that point of view I dont fit a MWD to a rifter - it takes too much cap for the repper to work long enough, apart from the drawback of a cruiser sized sig radius the mwd would give.
I know where you're coming from with your comments, and I would agree if I wanted a purely tackling ship, but it is not the role this setup is intended for imho. and ofc if you fly a gank ship you gonna loose it more often than other types, but it does not make it bad. -
July 22, 2008, 03:06:49 am
I was reviewing the fit and the arguements here again, I posted a while back.
After some thought, maybe dropping the rocket launcher for a small nos could help the cap issues.
As a slight(major) change in role focus, you could also drop an AC and add a second launcher, and also drop the 2 remaining ac's to 125's. You would own all frigates, and also really piss off drone heavy ships as you watch their drones pop one by one.
Still favor this fit over the dedicated tackler, as the dedicated tackler is a group mechanic, and this ship was designed for solo PvP. -
July 29, 2008, 08:05:43 am
Reppers vs. resists is a bit of 6 of one, half-dozen of the other in many situations. Compare an extra 15% overall resistance vs. around 15% of your armour repped in a light combat situation... maybe more.
However, the resists aren't vulnerable to nossing or more importantly, neuting. If you get neuted by anyone, you're in big trouble with this fit and have basically sacrificed one of your low-slots. I'd also go with an MWD because you'll be able to keep up with other frigates both in your gang and in a dogfight... if you've got an AB, someone with an MWD can fly circles around you and escape at will. Being able to escape a combat situation and outrun the warp disruptors of other frigs when outnumbered is pretty handy.
Still, 1v1, this frig can do all right... especially against slower frigs like Punishers if they don't fit a nos (which they should). Also, when the next round of nerf-bat beating comes, AB frigs will have a slight advantage over MWD frigs in many situations. I've already fit an AB Rifter in anticipation... -
August 06, 2008, 03:05:50 am
nice setup. I got a question though. I fit it a similar way, but tech 1. I know this is a drawback, but I didnt want to go out test a new ship and loose it and loosing millions at the same time. so I gone into low sec. first thing I find is another rifter. lucky for me he didnt have a scambler. but he was sucking my capacitor empty to the point I couldnt do anything. I guess it's a NOS. isnt it bhetter to put a NOS on? I dont have the rocket launcher on though, I have that slot empty, I dont have rocket skills.
also i want to say I dont agree with putting a MWD on, it's a bitch for your maximum cap. and you can nowere near have it on indefinately. -
August 11, 2008, 05:38:54 am
Eh, wouldn't you have a little cap problem with maintaining the scram+web AND the armor repp on ? -
August 11, 2008, 05:59:16 am
repper is for after a fight, or drop guns to 150mm and swap the rocket for a nos. -
June 30, 2009, 02:22:27 pm
does the repper really matter... i mean if u get hit once ur instapoped... -
July 01, 2009, 02:34:03 am
i mean if u get hit once ur instapoped...
nope, if youre agaibst t1 frigs or cruisers -
July 25, 2009, 01:38:09 pm
does the repper really matter... i mean if u get hit once ur instapoped...
Against drones, the rep really saves you.
Nor will you completely mitigate all damage and the rep will keep you in the fight for longer.
Personally I fit a damage control, as I prefer to ransom in the Rifter so higher damage is not my main concern, staying there however, is. I also use a nos in place of the rocket launcher as I like to be prepared to counter neuts and keep the rep up as long as possible. -
July 25, 2009, 03:28:14 pm
does the repper really matter... i mean if u get hit once ur instapoped...
If a ship alphas you, you're doing something wrong. Heavies, torps, and cruises shouldn't do a ton of damage to you because of your speed and signature, and large turret ships shouldn't be able to hit you if you're orbiting (frigs and cruisers will still hit you, but they don't have enough alpha to instapop). -
August 13, 2009, 03:27:54 am
I agree.... feeling both polaritys and the dirrection from which you are coming also incorperating the angle.... this is the best pvp ship around.... I would put series 3 on whats up with the series 2.... lol series 1 stay hardcore like me.... peace over and out DOG
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August 17, 2009, 04:49:27 am
This fit Is awesome, I use the Exact same fit for PvP out in low sec, Tends to beat all other frigates, Even got a few AF's in it Only difference Is I use Meta 4 200mm Autocannons. Anxiously awaiting for T2 ones +5 from me -
August 22, 2009, 04:14:33 pm
tbh you need a dmg control it helps a ton
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September 30, 2009, 03:15:08 pm
I'm over CPU by 2
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October 04, 2009, 01:41:20 pm
With small rigs, this ship reaches new levels of awesome :-) -
October 09, 2009, 05:04:20 am
Agreed, and for all the users who say that this ship can't solo, I've taken out 2 Arazus solo in her, along with a Raven (granted, it wasn't fit well) and several bcs including a few Feroxes and others. Dont dis the Rifter, it'll rip your face off XD -
October 10, 2009, 12:15:21 pm
This setup looks completely solid. Basic cookie cutter rifter solo setup. Fived.
beleave me it is you this set up is AWSOME (like another post) i have a pretty big soft spot for the rifter as well so... -
October 17, 2009, 02:50:34 am
I run the exact same setup but with nos and I`ve not lost it yet and that included tryign to tackle a faction golem in it then running away just to annoy him ^^ -
October 17, 2009, 05:35:22 am
I run the exact same setup but with nos and I`ve not lost it yet and that included tryign to tackle a faction golem in it then running away just to annoy him ^^
Why did you run away? At least ask for a little bit of money seeing as you can just keep him tackled all day. -
October 17, 2009, 11:26:37 am
If the Golem pilot has brains, shouldn't he be able to kill a Rifter?I run the exact same setup but with nos and I`ve not lost it yet and that included tryign to tackle a faction golem in it then running away just to annoy him ^^
Why did you run away? At least ask for a little bit of money seeing as you can just keep him tackled all day. -
October 17, 2009, 11:57:51 am
Not really. The missiles do bugger all unless he uses a target painter or 2 and a web. The high speed and low sig radius of the Rifter makes it more or less invulnerable to most BS missiles.
If the Golem pilot has brains, shouldn't he be able to kill a Rifter?I run the exact same setup but with nos and I`ve not lost it yet and that included tryign to tackle a faction golem in it then running away just to annoy him ^^
Why did you run away? At least ask for a little bit of money seeing as you can just keep him tackled all day.
A turret based ship stands a better chance as there's more you can do lower transersal. Missiles main advantage is their main downfall. -
October 17, 2009, 09:59:31 pm
Ah. I was assuming that a Golem pilot would have a painter fit.
Not really. The missiles do bugger all unless he uses a target painter or 2 and a web. The high speed and low sig radius of the Rifter makes it more or less invulnerable to most BS missiles.
If the Golem pilot has brains, shouldn't he be able to kill a Rifter?I run the exact same setup but with nos and I`ve not lost it yet and that included tryign to tackle a faction golem in it then running away just to annoy him ^^
Why did you run away? At least ask for a little bit of money seeing as you can just keep him tackled all day.
A turret based ship stands a better chance as there's more you can do lower transersal. Missiles main advantage is their main downfall. -
October 18, 2009, 02:44:01 am
yeh he did
it was more a mattar of he had a bay full of warrior II`s and whenever I popped one ANOTHER one came out
eventually I thought Sod to this and flew home with the angry golem shouting abuse at me due to the fact I`d made him miss out on his vengeance time bonus or something like that, coupled with the dornes I popped I must have cost him about 3m ^^ -
October 21, 2009, 03:25:53 pm
Unfittable, lack 0.5 CPU -
October 22, 2009, 06:48:47 am
Unfittable, lack 0.5 CPU
no its not unfittable
check your skills and then compare to max skills -
November 03, 2009, 01:04:26 pm
I've had huge success with this setup. You have the ability to change out all t2's with named if you aren't able to fit them. EMP S is in cargo in case you come up against shield tankers and just for general versatility in damage type.
This setup is for killing other frigs and cruisers. Orbit at 500m and most medium turrets won't be able to track you. Little cap dependency, great damage, good tank.
Agreed with you but using 3 x 200mm t2 might be better result.
T2 armor plates aren't as good as reinforced rolled tungsten T1 plates. For example, the T2 200mm plate has 3 more hp (yes, 3 more) than the T1 plate but adds a lot more mass to your ship than the reinforced rolled tungsten so your afterburner boost is much less. This makes you vulnerable to medium turrets since they might be able to track you. -
November 03, 2009, 01:07:07 pm
How does this work if you swap the 200mm plate for an adaptive nano plate? You might be able to run an hp-stable tank and their turrets will track you less, even though you'll have less of a buffer. -
November 03, 2009, 02:51:48 pm
How does this work if you swap the 200mm plate for an adaptive nano plate? You might be able to run an hp-stable tank and their turrets will track you less, even though you'll have less of a buffer.
The plate is mostly there to act as a buffer against drones while you kill them off. If turrets are hitting you, you're in trouble as you can't run the rep for long amounts of time. -
November 09, 2009, 09:18:24 pm
Nice i have this same setup for my rifter =) +1 -
November 12, 2009, 07:23:28 am
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November 12, 2009, 06:08:15 pm
bad form and not enough range on your scrambler.. downgrade nearly worthless dc for a better scram -
November 21, 2009, 03:31:52 pm
T2 armor plates aren't as good as reinforced rolled tungsten T1 plates. For example, the T2 200mm plate has 3 more hp (yes, 3 more) than the T1 plate but adds a lot more mass to your ship than the reinforced rolled tungsten so your afterburner boost is much less. This makes you vulnerable to medium turrets since they might be able to track you.
He's talking about guns, not plates. -
November 21, 2009, 04:44:09 pm
T2 guns with barrage are non-negotiable on a Rifter. You just can't use it right otherwise. -
November 28, 2009, 09:02:21 am
If you can rig them what will you do? -
November 29, 2009, 10:52:34 am
Range and dps, always. -
January 29, 2010, 05:10:35 am
Rifter def a fav...great setup classic like back in the old days of solo pvp. that dont happen anymore..ive got s softspot for this ship. -
January 29, 2010, 12:01:32 pm
Rifter def a fav...great setup classic like back in the old days of solo pvp. that dont happen anymore..ive got s softspot for this ship.
Do what I do, roam low-sec posting duel requests in every system. With frigs people rarely dishonor, so I've gotten tons of great fights. -
February 02, 2010, 11:18:40 am
LOL!!!! -
February 21, 2010, 01:53:15 pm
Will this setup still work? I just started a minmatar for PvP, wanted to know if this still works since it's from '07... -
February 21, 2010, 05:35:12 pm
Will this setup still work? I just started a minmatar for PvP, wanted to know if this still works since it's from '07...
This is, always has been, and will continue to be the basic cookie cutter fit. It's the most common fit you'll see for the Rifter, and that's because it works, and it works well. -
March 12, 2010, 08:18:05 am
+1 from me..but let me explain why..
first of all...for the rifter to be effective,it requires the skills to operate it at its best..and unless you know the right skills you will get it popped quick..now with that said this is all based on if the person you are fighting is a noob or doesn't have the right equip on there ship..
the setup is solid and using the ML is a good idea..in perspective everyone knows what its used for..but the nos is also effective..as it sucks the energy from the players ship to yours which in return might disable them from using or operating reapers or hardeners..plus if they have drones its a plus to have nos to keep your AR working without draining you..because it could be a long battle and they might send in reinforcements before you actually destroy them..but yes this is a solid build -
April 12, 2010, 10:20:10 am
only update it needs is rigs since small rigs are dirt cheap now
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June 14, 2010, 06:55:33 am
umm how much dps can this thing tank ? -
June 14, 2010, 12:26:21 pm
tanking is for sissy`s, killing is how you tank -
June 14, 2010, 02:37:12 pm
thats nice -
June 29, 2010, 03:40:26 am
I love how people ask for this stat or that stat. This thing is a speed tank and a shock trooper... I've fleeted with 4 Rifters (with almost this exact fit just T1) and a Black bird and it we could BBQ any thing that got close and was solo. Also its a cheap quick build and fun to fly if you lose it oh well. +1 for the baking sheet all cookies should look similar to this in any case. And yeah throw some cheap rigs in it to boost your dps. -
June 29, 2010, 09:38:47 am
yeah whatever im pretty sure this is fail. small repper is a waste. +1 anyway cause its alright... -
July 02, 2010, 05:15:18 am
yeah whatever im pretty sure this is fail
You've obviously never experienced the wrath of a good Rifter pilot, or flown one of these well yourself. By far my favorite ship, and this is the most beloved setup for it. -
July 23, 2010, 08:19:17 am
Using this setup with Tch I items and dont have enough cpu to use the scram. What skills would be needed to make sure there is enough cpu to have everything online? -
July 29, 2010, 01:02:39 am
weapon ups
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August 22, 2010, 04:17:56 pm
Damage control and it's complete
