Loadout: Pilgrim: OP Cloaked PvPer...
Pilgrim: OP Cloaked PvPer...
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Ship fitting - Built on February 9, 2010
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Armor = 8625 R = 76.7%, 84.2%, 78.7%, 81.5 Cap stable at 43% with everything running DPS Hammers = 238T DPS Hobs = 149T DPS Wars = 121E 459m/s constant with AB -420 cap from Neuts -/+72 from Nos -56% enemy optimal -66% enemy falloff -69% enemy tracking Sig radius = 156m Scan res = 296.3 If your an amarr mission runner u can get most faction stuff, n buy the others. YES this is an expensive fit, but my aim was to try and make as powerful a Cloaked PvP ship as possible...this thing screws your ability to react in any way. Cap gone (and tank unless passive.) DPS gone (Cap is gone, min cant hit due to range), movement gone (web/scram). Orbit at 10k for both scram and web to work. your AB will keep u going far beyond the enemies speed once he is scrammed/webbed. Loosing this thing would hurt bad, so use it with a scout in a cov ops or at least a near-by friend. Why AB and not MWD? they cant move anyways...so you will be going fast in comparison. If they web u it doesnt matter,their cap will be gone soon anyways...if they disrupt u same thing. If they have a scram it doesnt do anything (even if it was faction/could reach u)... Be careful about 1) Additional targets 2) Missile ships Ways to use: decloak at 10k, activate scram, web, TDs and DC. Activate your AB, and Neuts/Nos. Release drones, if they have drones take them out 1st using your warriors. Use hammerheads as they do most dmg. |
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February 09, 2010, 07:23:01 am
The Factions dont have "Huge" benefits, but used together they raise each other up considerably...A full faction-fit ship is pretty annoying as it beats a normal one hands down in tank and in range.
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February 09, 2010, 08:44:57 am
Just hope you dont get 2-3 ships on ya~ else this will go *poof*
Also needs a med cap booster and drop the NOS since your target will be capped and it will be useless. Pref a small nute for the cycletime/small cap usage.
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February 09, 2010, 09:12:13 am
Just hope you dont get 2-3 ships on ya~ else this will go *poof*
So it'll turn into another type of setup completely? If he wanted a cap booster he would probably have gone for the myriad of cap booster Pilgrims already posted. I personally don't think cap boosters are needed unless you've never flown something with neuts before, in which case the Pilgrim probably isn't the best ship for you yet.
Also needs a med cap booster and drop the NOS since your target will be capped and it will be useless. Pref a small nute for the cycletime/small cap usage.
Good fit, a little expensive for my tastes but if you've got it, flaunt it. One thing I would suggest though, is to use a rep. Most fights in the Pilgrim will take quite a bit of time. If your enemy is able to occasionally chip away at you with its weapon system or drones this will become a problem. The great thing about having 2 TDs is that you can potentially take on 2 ships at the same time with careful flying. However doing this you wont be immune and you will be taking some damage and a buffer wont last the length of time you need. -
February 09, 2010, 10:58:00 am
I agree Turelle that He could have. I also like the "add a rep". I don't know how many times that has saved me.
I just suggested small nute/capbooster as it makes the ship that much easier to fly and once capped it matters naught if you get into small nute range to keep them capped. Also a Nute/nos Setup would require a cap battery IMO to fend off some offensive cap warfare as well as ships that are packing boosters so you would have the staying power required before you cap out. Just my thoughts.
[Pilgrim, Pilgrim: OP Cloaked PvPer...]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates
Stasis Webifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Scrambler
True Sansha Tracking Disruptor, Tracking Speed Disruption
Medium Capacitor Battery II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Imperial Navy Medium Energy Neutralizer
Imperial Navy Medium Energy Neutralizer
Imperial Navy Medium Nosferatu
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Something like this. (also has room for a rep)
Otherwise fly to your hearts content=) -
February 09, 2010, 11:51:55 am
mmm ill c how that fits out. The real reason for the nos it to ensure that Everything I have is running so that he is neuted and depleted and im not. Once he is, off goes most of the modules. IE - only need to run 1 Neut, and might not even need TDs. Rep I was thinking bout but it destabalizes things a bit, will have to work around it. Idea was to work with a cov ops for scouting. One of the scripts = tracking, and with such a low sig radius at that range with a neuted target, would artillery be able to hit me? Only main issues here are passive-tanked missile ships really. Thermal and Explosive resists are highest so their drones wont be able to do much, and my warrior IIs can chew them up fast.
As I said I'll check on a rep switch with the DC (as the armor mods = most efficient when repping armor, or am I wrong?) Though I'd already have a repper in cargo, for off-battle repairs. -
February 09, 2010, 11:57:43 am
Ok the 1600mm plate buffer + the medium rep just doesnt fit when changing lows, it would be a drastic change =/. However with the DPS of artillery, which is just about the only thing that would hit me every now and then, a 48k buffer should easily be enough.
They will either be gank or tanks and if their tanks they wont hit me and will die slowish, if their ganks they will hit me but they should die pretty fast, I hope =/. I'll play around tomoz n see when else I can come up with. ATM fit stays as-is -
February 09, 2010, 12:01:09 pm
I agree Turelle that He could have. I also like the "add a rep". I don't know how many times that has saved me.
I just suggested small nute/capbooster as it makes the ship that much easier to fly and once capped it matters naught if you get into small nute range to keep them capped. Also a Nute/nos Setup would require a cap battery IMO to fend off some offensive cap warfare as well as ships that are packing boosters so you would have the staying power required before you cap out. Just my thoughts.
[Pilgrim, Pilgrim: OP Cloaked PvPer...]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Federation Navy 1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates
Stasis Webifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Warp Scrambler
True Sansha Tracking Disruptor, Tracking Speed Disruption
Medium Capacitor Battery II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Imperial Navy Medium Energy Neutralizer
Imperial Navy Medium Energy Neutralizer
Imperial Navy Medium Nosferatu
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Something like this. (also has room for a rep)
Otherwise fly to your hearts content=)
Thing bout the booster is that it takes off a lot of anti-"hit me" stats as far as the TD goes. It also takes up cargo space with the charges I believe. You wana loot the buggers wreck, dont u?. Never really tried boosters as I'm more of a passive tanking guy. I may give it a shot tho. -
February 09, 2010, 12:59:33 pm
1 TD from the pilg/curse can just ruin a turret based ships day. Just need to pick the right script for the job. And keep in mind as you burn cap charges it frees up cargo=) -
February 09, 2010, 01:48:09 pm
1 TD from the pilg/curse can just ruin a turret based ships day. Just need to pick the right script for the job. And keep in mind as you burn cap charges it frees up cargo=)
Only if the pilot doesn't know how to fly. I can negate one TD in most ships I fly. 2 is nigh on impossible unless I get lucky. -
February 09, 2010, 02:41:35 pm
Range is somewhat easy to negate but tracking speed can be a whole nother ballgame. All depends on the ship/fittedguns and the ability to use keepatrange/manual pilot to keep the transversal low -
February 09, 2010, 07:54:21 pm
Well I used 2 differenciating scripts to get the most negating effect for the other pilot =
1)-56% enemy optimal
-66% enemy falloff
2)-69% enemy tracking
This way regardless of whether he fit beam/art/rail or pulse/auto/blaster he is screwed, no? 1st group will just miss most shots until depleted (with exception of arty) and latter group cant reach. -
February 09, 2010, 07:55:49 pm
Again this is a great 1v1 fit but in a 2+ v me it is gona be severely tested. Maybe team up with an arazu or raiper as well as a cov ops? -
February 10, 2010, 05:38:02 am
Range is somewhat easy to negate but tracking speed can be a whole nother ballgame. All depends on the ship/fittedguns and the ability to use keepatrange/manual pilot to keep the transversal low
Actually I'd say the exact opposite. If they controlling range (with the AB, scram and web makes it very easy to do) then I dont see how you will get back in range if you can't run a MWD. Although if you disagree, PM me with your thoughts, I'm always trying to learn
Against a solo pilot, I would always use optimal range if they use short range. If long range, tracking speed.
You're best to use the same script in each TD. I would only use 1 of each if you find yourself up against an exceptional pilot who is able to close range or negate tracking. It means you have to work harder using 1 of each. Most people wont be able to counter 2 optimal or 2 tracking though. (imo only) -
February 10, 2010, 06:41:47 am
kk thx for the advice Turelle. I'll run some tests n c how it plays out. My thoughts was that the stat loss for range, and tracking is great enough to disrupt any type of pilot. But i'll have 2 c. -
February 10, 2010, 06:47:15 pm
QuoteAgainst a solo pilot, I would always use optimal range if they use short range. If long range, tracking speed.
Prety much. most t2 longrange ammno has a -tracking as well making the penalties even worse.
Passive drakes
Apart from that, you're good