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• Sendell

  January 19, 2010, 03:55:28 am

  
  

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  Overtanked and a bit slow. It could also do with some Omnidirectional tracking links and Drone Navigation computers to increase real DPS.
• rockashadow

  January 19, 2010, 04:34:39 am

  
  

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  drop EM hardener for another exp imo, high enough on armor, and squeeze in a damage control
• Sheindo

  January 19, 2010, 04:50:25 am

  
  

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  Have to say, that I like the fitting.
  
  Speed and over-tank isn't an issue here, as it is a drone bot, although, having T2 drones will make a huge differrence
  
  thumbs up from me
• jrdnthms

  January 19, 2010, 05:30:09 am

  
  

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  Quote from: rockashadow on January 19, 2010, 04:34:39 am

  drop EM hardener for another exp imo, high enough on armor, and squeeze in a damage control
  

  
  The guns are just to pull aggro
• Asday

  January 19, 2010, 05:41:54 am

  
  

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  Quote from: jrdnthms on January 19, 2010, 05:30:09 am

  Quote from: rockashadow on January 19, 2010, 04:34:39 am

  drop EM hardener for another exp imo, high enough on armor, and squeeze in a damage control
  

  
  The guns are just to pull aggro
  

  
  Where did he say anything about guns?
• Sendell

  January 19, 2010, 05:52:06 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Sheindo on January 19, 2010, 04:50:25 am

  Have to say, that I like the fitting.
  
  Speed and over-tank isn't an issue here, as it is a drone bot, although, having T2 drones will make a huge differrence
  
  thumbs up from me
  

  
  The excessive tank means that he has to use midslots for cap rechargers. If he swapped out some of the rechargers for drone mods and used a lighter tank he'd earn money more quickly because his drones would move faster or track better. Efficient mission running is all about the isk/hour.
• mike13alpha

  January 19, 2010, 06:31:14 am

  
  

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  Quote from: rockashadow on January 19, 2010, 04:34:39 am

  drop EM hardener for another exp imo, high enough on armor, and squeeze in a damage control
  

  
  Like i say in the description i'l swap out the hardeners according to whatever npc im up against
• mike13alpha

  January 19, 2010, 06:33:24 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Sendell on January 19, 2010, 05:52:06 am

  Quote from: Sheindo on January 19, 2010, 04:50:25 am

  Have to say, that I like the fitting.
  
  Speed and over-tank isn't an issue here, as it is a drone bot, although, having T2 drones will make a huge differrence
  
  thumbs up from me
  

  
  The excessive tank means that he has to use midslots for cap rechargers. If he swapped out some of the rechargers for drone mods and used a lighter tank he'd earn money more quickly because his drones would move faster or track better. Efficient mission running is all about the isk/hour.
  

  
  Putting in the drone mods would mean dropping to a single repper, and then i don't think i'd be able to solo a L4 with that would i?
  (keep in mind i have just over 5 mil sp)
• Sendell

  January 19, 2010, 06:43:23 am

  
  

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  It'll depend how your skills are distributed but it should be possible with one repper. It certainly can work with as few as 7 million, not sure about 5.
  
  It's quite possible to run them with only a single repper and only EANM II and DCU II for tank, so with rat specifics it should be doable at your skill level. You'll definitely need an afterburner though.
• mike13alpha

  January 19, 2010, 06:45:52 am

  
  

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  i'l have a play around on eft for a fit with the drone upgrades then. right now i have work to go to, darned real life getting in the way of eve!
• Alomar82

  January 19, 2010, 06:52:23 am

  
  

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  usually its "each to their own" when it comes to tanking so i wont bother on that,  but what i will say and i think is crutial for any domi pilot to work towards getting some T2 drones as they are your money earner.
• mike13alpha

  January 19, 2010, 10:24:29 pm

  
  

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  Thanks. It's on the my list of things to do
• Bibo

  January 22, 2010, 10:18:24 pm

  
  

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  This is a PvE boat so:
  Go 2 x hardeners for each of primary & secondary NPC damage-dealing type.
  Don't bother with a DCU - that's for PvP. If you get to hull you shouldn't be running lvl 4's yet.
  Drop the EANM, add a Capacitor Power Relay II in the lows.That means you can drop a cap recharger from the mids and add a Drone Nav Unit which will speed up your Ogres:
  
  [Dominix, Dominix: L4 mission spidertank]
  Large Armor Repairer II
  Large Armor Repairer II
  Capacitor Power Relay II
  Armor Kinetic Hardener II
  Armor Kinetic Hardener II
  Armor Thermic Hardener II
  Armor Thermic Hardener II
  
  Drone Navigation Computer I
  Cap Recharger II
  Cap Recharger II
  Cap Recharger II
  Cap Recharger II
  
  425mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge L
  425mm Railgun I, Antimatter Charge L
  Drone Link Augmentor I
  Drone Link Augmentor I
  Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
  Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction
  
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
  
  
  Ogre I x5, Hammers, armor repper drones etc etc
  
  ..that tanks very well against Serpentis, your prime mission NPC, with half-decent skills.
  
  I do like the spider tank idea, from the perspective of a relatively inexperienced two-gang who might occasionally screw up aggro-management.. but as a suggestion:
  If you change the T2 remote reppers for Meta 4's as above, with a reasonable 8-10mill (maybe even less.. you try - I dunno!) skillset you'll be cap stable running your own reppers, or the remote reppers on someone else.  Two of these will rofl any Serpentis level 4 I'm sure, and pdq.
  
  Just my tuppence anyway.  I vote 1 up 
• mike13alpha

  January 24, 2010, 03:06:54 am

  
  

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  thanks
• The Warden

  February 26, 2010, 06:48:53 pm

  
  

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  Love the fit mate everything is good. the only thing u need is t2 drones get some more skills with the armor repairs and more drone damage and you are set for any lvl 4 in your path +1 me
• Zzyzx1618

  February 27, 2010, 11:46:22 am

  
  

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  I like it +1
• ReeseLogan

  February 28, 2010, 02:31:54 pm

  
  

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  Nice fit. Tip: train Electronic warfaredrone interfacing and get 15km etrxa drone range. Then you can remove one of the link augmentors and free up a high slot.
• xxsliderxx

  March 14, 2010, 01:28:10 pm

  
  

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  A good fit for solo fitting.
  To truly get level 4's done quick you need T2 large drones and all support skills to lvl 4 or 5
  
  Drone boats require at a minnium of 4 months to get to the point to make level 4's quick enough to make them worth while.
  
  I would place the month into adv wep upgrades lvl 5 it will open your fitting up alot not only in PVE but is necessary for PVP.
  
  All armor compensations should be level 4 will allow you to be able to switch out a Resistance for a Mag Stab, your higher drone skills will melt those pesky BS's and those are the main threat in terms of DPS.
  
  This is opinion but I love T2 sentry drones, but you NEED them at T2 and the skills for increasing the optimal and falloff of drones to level 5. these are alone another month so to get all race larges to lvl 4 and all Sentry drones to lvl 5 it is around 6-7 months.
  Thats just the attacking skills.
  Next is the tank
  
  You need all your armor repping skills to level 5, no if and or buts, you will need that extra tank for those harder missions, and/or plexes. And it will also let you feel safer droping another resistance. It is risky but your trying for speed and efficiency not a uber tank. Thats why the skills to mission run is so super long.
  
  Now this is all based on if your just looking to mission run and PVE or have a base to do level 4's and try plexes. But do not think this is needed right away, it is just how to do it where your able to make billions of ISK.
  
  Also when drone boating NEVER LEAVE OR GO AFK, your drones may get agro and die, when they are T2 they do cost some ISK, so loseing one is not in your best interest.
  
  Also place the time into T2 large.
• Sendell

  March 14, 2010, 02:52:18 pm

  
  

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  ^So very much of that was unsupported nonsense.
• Aubrey Maturin

  April 17, 2010, 12:37:02 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Sendell on March 14, 2010, 04:52:18 pm

  ^So very much of that was unsupported nonsense.
  

    Im with him....   +1 for using the same fit I do
• alganhar

  April 18, 2010, 11:24:46 am

  
  

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  The better your skills the more you are able to pare off...
  
  A Domi can run levels 4's on a single LAR II quite happily with good aggro management, I know that for a fact as I run a single repper Domi and have no issues. With good skills you can fit 5 350 II's on board with a pair of magstabs... etc etc.
  
  But thats the kicker, with good skills, which take time to acquire. As it stands though, this is a good, solid start for a relatively low SP character.
  
  My suggestions for your skills would be, in priority:
  Drone skills (get those T2 drones asap, especially heavies and I would also highly recommend sentries)
  Fitting Skills: AWU to 4 is a good goal and not too unpleasant,5 can be a bit of a beast to train but is worth it in the end
  Cap Skills: Anything that reduces your cap consumption is good
  Gun skills: As your fitting and cap skills increase you will find you can eventually fit 5 350 Ii railguns in those highs to up your DPS
  
  A Domi can be a skill intensive ship to fly effectively... but its worth it in the end
• Aewenora

  April 18, 2010, 08:27:58 pm

  
  

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  I must really not understand armor tanking at all.  Ok, With Bibo's fit, in EFT with All Skill V, I'm showing an effective defense of 436.  Does this mean that the ship can tank up to 436 damage a second?  That's the part that gets me... because i can shield tank a domi and get >= DPS with a better tank/second.  So, i must be thinking something wrong..
• alganhar

  April 19, 2010, 05:38:32 am

  
  

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  Basically yes, though to be fair an omni tank does drop your overall reinforced tank. Using targeted resists you can easily get well over 800 reinforced tank against those damage types with a Dual LAR Domi.
  
  In missions though, you rarely need more than about 400 - 500 DPS tank, which is why a single LAR domi with 4 rat specific resists will always be superior IMO. You can get a 460 dps tank quite easily, and using only one LAR gives you space to fit more substantial guns (I use 5 350 II's) and space in the lows for a mag stab or two.
  
  Anything after 450 - 500 dps tank in level 4's is basically wasted unless you are aggroing the entire room and wandering off to make a coffee while your drones kill the rats. Thats a very slow way of mission running....
• Aewenora

  April 19, 2010, 08:00:34 am

  
  

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  I tend to aggro the whole room.... though i'm also usually in a fleet.  but i do love me some coffee...
• xxsliderxx

  May 03, 2010, 02:38:11 pm

  
  

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  my opinion is this.
  
  Drop one armor rep, no need except to rep drones when soloing.
  for 0.0 add a neut
  drop 2 cap reps and only use the one gun for aggro
  Add 2 Omnidirectional tracking links, and train up sentry drones (they melt BS's)
  add some small and med drones for those pesky smalls and medium ships.
• ihatehackers1

  May 04, 2010, 11:54:55 am

  
  

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  it would also help to get t2 drones as they do a shitload more damage then the t1s
• Heliaboa

  June 20, 2010, 06:14:18 pm

  
  

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  this is just wht i was looking for for the same reason - wanna get some low SP corpies into lvl 4's in cruisers to try out the big stuff
• Heliaboa

  June 20, 2010, 06:23:41 pm

  
  

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  just a question tho why not a cap booster to help it get back up gain? +1 from me :-)
   
• Chamburg

  June 30, 2010, 06:23:28 am

  
  

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  Because you can easily get the tank cap stable with 1 LAR, for 2 you'll waste a few slots but it's quit easy to do as well. Why burn cap boosters which cost money if you can easily be cap stable with enough tank AND damage.
  
  The Megathron is worth investing in cap boosters (they aren't expensive) to go full gank setup imo (Damage rig, 3 magstabs, 2 tracking comps, 1x LAR, 3 hardeners, full rack of 425mm's)
• mike13alpha

  November 02, 2010, 07:00:53 am

  
  

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  This loadout has been updated
• tytankai

  November 10, 2010, 01:36:54 pm

  
  

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  nice +1 here 
• mike13alpha

  November 12, 2010, 02:20:48 pm

  
  

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  This loadout has been updated
• Jack Jackrum

  April 16, 2011, 01:44:54 am

  
  

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  works -> +1