Loadout: lvl4 mision runner kronos
lvl4 mision runner kronos
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My current setup for lvl 4, waited for a long time to "drive" this ship.
Implants: slot6 - PG +5% slot7 - +10% afterburner duration slot8 - +5% capacitor slot9 - +5% damage all turrets slot10 - +5% damage large hybrid turrets 876 DPS antimatter / 1ooo DPS javelin medium drones since i almost never use heavy defence is vs 60% kinetic / 40% thermic almost all important skills in 5 feedback most appreciated 23.02.2010 - Loadout has been updated 1. dps increased to 891/1015 ( drone interfacing 5 complete now :) ), but effective dps is something quite different; since drones r used for small and close targets, only stable dps comes from turrets, so without drones dps lowers to 742/865 2. since cap was never an issue, I removed 1 cap recharger and replaced with a tracking computer with tracking script; now i can hit angel webs above 30km without aligning :D and YES, I know, cap stable ship fans will crawl on the walls when they'll see the 3 mins cap limit :)) 3. swapped a tractor for a second salvager, too much time lost, mindbloWI was right 4. for "World's Collide serp/gurista", since there's always the chance of aggroing the whole room, i remove a magstab and and a 2nd kin hardner, wich will increase ur kinetic resist to 90 10.04.2010 - Loadout has been updated again 1. DC2 has been dropped, as you can see, finally had the guts to remove it; it's been replaced with an adaptive nano membrane, but i think another hardner would be a better idea. 2. gallente navy webber on, replacing 1 cap recharger; why you may ask? well, it helps ALOT: webbing frigs and destroyers for your drones, anything else for your guns. NO, it is not a waste. 3. rigs changed: followed mindbloWI suggestion, T2 aerator + T1 cap recharger, cap drops at 2m30s but is enough and plenty :) 4. with the recent drop in modules prices, I replaced republic AB (even if it has the same stats as gallente navy AB, my impresion was it lacks acceleration), with an offficer one (75M in contracts) 5. same thing happend to faction ammunition, prices dropped alot so I switched to navy antimmater: changes are more than significant, DPS increases alot and more important, lowers the mission time (~45 mins AE4(no bonus) kill, loot + salvage) new stats: 875/887 T2, with drones 1024/1037 T2 13.07.2010 update 1. 2 tracking computers allows to manage range of the rails from 36+30(tracking scripts) to 47+49 (range scripts); I think it is a more flexible way then to change ammo. 2. CapacitorRechargerII has left the loadout being replaced by a LargeCapacitorBatteryII. They are not very popular cause of increased amount of PG&CPU, but the effect is better then a CR2. 25.12.2010 - Merry Christmas update 1. dropped cap battery for a heavy booster 2. bought a x-type repper since i got it extremly cheap ( 400 M ) 3. put in a PG+5% implants cause wasn't enough PG for 425 + heavy booster + core x-type ALWAYS CHECK THE LAST PICTURE FOR THE LAST VERSION
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January 13, 2010, 08:22:43 amCommodore
Reputation: 483
drop DCU for another hardener. -
January 13, 2010, 08:24:59 am
Member 1st Class
Reputation: 0
This loadout has been updated -
January 13, 2010, 08:29:35 am
Commodore
Reputation: 655
Swap the damage control for a cap power relay. -
January 13, 2010, 09:06:17 am
Petty Officer 2nd. Class
Reputation: 5
Seems ok to me, I like DCU on expensive ships but if you are confident enough drop it for another hardener.
+1 for not-too-expensive pimping -
January 13, 2010, 09:18:07 am
CommodoreReputation: 0
needs a better repper and tracking computers -
January 13, 2010, 11:06:35 am
Lieutenant
Reputation: 132
needs a better repper and tracking computers
Generally more tank. -
February 16, 2010, 03:31:14 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
Review for kronos:
Been using this setup for 2 months now, so these are the conclusions:
1. no, it doesn't need more tank, since repper is usually turned on 1 cicle and then stopped.
2. no tracking, drones take care of frigs and cruisers who get into les then 20km, BS can be killed easy if more then 10km.
3. u dont have cap problems, cap almost never drops under 1/2
4. yes , u can swap DC2 for anything u want (i will not
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5. i only use antimatter, javellin is too low range so dont mind 1k DPS thing
6. u REALLY need salvage 5 and a salvager t2
BTW: thx for feedbacks
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February 18, 2010, 05:09:55 am
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 8
I tried this. What the guy says it's true.
You don't need a tracking computer, it will kill BCs easily 15-60km w/ T1 antimatter. For frigs you have Hobgoblins/Warriors.
DPS wise it's awesome if you have them in your optimal range (I 2 volleyd a BS @ 48km)
Two tractor beams IS overkill. (2x Salvager T2 is much better)
I swapped the DCU for a faction EANM.
A proper faction repper is needed for this to be a very nice mission ship.
Overall +1 -
February 22, 2010, 11:46:05 pm
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
This loadout has been updated -
February 23, 2010, 03:02:43 am
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 8
I swapped the one damage rig to a CCC and upgraded the Burst Aerator to a T2. +10 or so DPS then both dmg rigs.. and a bit more cap recharge
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April 01, 2010, 06:52:08 am
Member 5th Class
Reputation: 0
This fit is solid. I'm using pretty much the same thing on my Kronos but with T2 AB and 2 collision Accelerators. I agree very much that to fully take advantage of the fit you'll want T2 salvagers. I'm gonna have to work on that myself.
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April 10, 2010, 11:58:55 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
This loadout has been updated -
April 16, 2010, 05:11:18 pm
Member 3rd class
Reputation: 0
Remove DCU. Its a PvP module. If you go in to structure in a lvl4 then youre doing it wrong -
April 20, 2010, 02:58:17 am
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 8
Review for kronos:
Been using this setup for 2 months now, so these are the conclusions:
1. no, it doesn't need more tank, since repper is usually turned on 1 cicle and then stopped.
2. no tracking, drones take care of frigs and cruisers who get into les then 20km, BS can be killed easy if more then 10km.
3. u dont have cap problems, cap almost never drops under 1/2
4. yes , u can swap DC2 for anything u want (i will not )
5. i only use antimatter, javellin is too low range so dont mind 1k DPS thing
6. u REALLY need salvage 5 and a salvager t2
BTW: thx for feedbacksRemove DCU. Its a PvP module. If you go in to structure in a lvl4 then youre doing it wrong
No, it's not a PVP ONLY module. If you look at it's attributes it gives resists to armor too. That is a + and a last second hope to please consider another option, thanks!. -
April 20, 2010, 09:12:22 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
This loadout has been updated
Loadout has been updated according to last update 10.04.2010 :) ... kronos.mk3 -
April 28, 2010, 10:32:40 am
Commander
Reputation: 121
Not to crazy about rails. But, I don't see any other way to fit it up for more gank than this. +1 -
May 18, 2010, 01:34:50 pm
Crewman Novice
Reputation: 4
Not too crazy about rails? the only time id ever consider useing blasters in pve at all is against angels, and even then probably only on a ship with a nice falloff bonus or so.
Anyway its a nice setup, although personally i wouldnt use a webber despite the fact it has a nice bonus for it. Ive never needed one in pve so far, but i run missions in caldari space, against angels it might come in handy after all though.
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May 18, 2010, 03:41:38 pm
CommanderReputation: 121
when you're use to lazors and jectiles, rails seem a bit inferior.
not use blasters instead. unless, you're a madman. -
May 18, 2010, 04:00:35 pm
Captain
Reputation: 68
so...why do you use an officer afterburner and a t2 repper? -
May 18, 2010, 04:17:38 pm
CommanderReputation: 121
so...why do you use an officer afterburner and a t2 repper?
cause he already had it or to be fast and range the rats? -
May 18, 2010, 04:22:18 pm
CaptainReputation: 68
so...why do you use an officer afterburner and a t2 repper?
cause he already had it or to be fast and range the rats?
i'm not asking why he has an afterburner i'm asking why he doesn't have at least a faction repper... -
May 18, 2010, 04:23:47 pm
CommodoreReputation: 483
it should be an a or x type tbhso...why do you use an officer afterburner and a t2 repper?
cause he already had it or to be fast and range the rats?
i'm not asking why he has an afterburner i'm asking why he doesn't have at least a faction repper... -
May 18, 2010, 04:25:26 pm
CommanderReputation: 121
pretty much the same thing. if can keep range on the rats don't need to rep much. depending on the mission and how much I know I could tank would factor into the range I need to stay at to lay down as much dps as possible and still have plenty of tank...Lots of exp., ever chk my standings?so...why do you use an officer afterburner and a t2 repper?
cause he already had it or to be fast and range the rats?
i'm not asking why he has an afterburner i'm asking why he doesn't have at least a faction repper...
Rats hate me.
Dont fly this...yet and didn't eft it. DS x-type lar take up lots of pg. Don't know if it fits w/o imps? -
May 18, 2010, 05:17:50 pm
CommanderReputation: 121
OK, checked it out. x-type lar fits np. also, cpu is fine for the hards even though that's not a big deal.
agree w/san needs a little more love in the tank dept.(it's a t2 bs). ds(ds=dead space, plex w/e you like to call them) lar and hards, just imho.
I'll still leave my rating as is, though. Ship is fit right...for the most part.
If I were to use it. I'm thinking 2x tc, 1x te(depending on tank requirements)(get rid on eanm for ganking) w/cap booster and 3x tracktor beams for pulling wrecks in for dedicated salvage ship would be the way to go. -
May 26, 2010, 07:22:39 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
here's the answers to some questions:
1. why the officer afterburner?
well, it was 70 mils on contracts (the reason was in the explanations), so why not? Not that u'll use it very much, but i like having an AB.
2. why not an Core X-Type? (i choose Core cause it uses 400J, not 450, so it has no impact on the already short cap life). Cause its 900M iskies, pretty much almost the whole setup cost, pimp ur ships if u like, i dont mind.
3. yep, as I said in the explanations , u can use 3 specific hardners instead of 2 + eanm, I used that too for a short period, then I switched back.
4. why webber? since i dont move almost at all in missions, sometimes a BS can get under 10k, it's basicly faster to use turrets + web vs drones
Edit1. u can fit any repper ingame, kronos has plenty of PG and CPU, the 450J variants shortens the cap life with 15s, from 2m30s to 2m15s
Edit2. vs serpentis (65%kin,35%therm), with LARII reinforced defence is 557, with best repper Corpus X-Type(450J) is 878, with Core X-Type (400J) is 780.
Edit3. thx for rating and feedbacks -
May 27, 2010, 08:27:03 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 0
optional: lose the tracking comp and replace it with sensor booster/cap recharger
I have similar setup, with my mids being 3x cap rechargers and 1x web.
As of yet i have not encountered a ship i cannot hit. Anything smaller than a BC at close range will be chewed out by drones. Any >= BC-sized ship just outside of web range gets hit also.
I usually web the offending ship to a stand-still (web bonuses), change my ship speed to 10m/s to keep them flying straight, and just let rip with the rails. Never fails. -
May 27, 2010, 08:42:59 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 0
No, it's not a PVP ONLY module. If you look at it's attributes it gives resists to armor too. That is a + and a last second hope to please consider another option, thanks!.
Why someone would still have their 600 million ISK ship in full-fighting mode when their armor is steadily falling under 50% is beyond me. An EANM gives a lot more bonuses to armor resists.
Fortunately its a BS, so your armor wont WTFGONE on you, you could warp in to a shit-storm and still have time to align and warp safely.
If youre pointed and you go in to structure, well your :censored: ed anyway thanks to the long locking time. On that note, when doing the mission "Stop The Thief! (lvl 4)" you WILL have to warp out as it has point frigs and HUGE dps.
Warp in, align to planet I, slow-boat, shoot things...and be sure your light drones are killing the frigs. -
May 28, 2010, 07:31:59 pm
CommanderReputation: 121
when doing the mission "Stop The Thief! (lvl 4)" you WILL have to warp out as it has point frigs and HUGE dps.
no you wont. I easily run that mish. takes me about 5 minutes to complete and that's only cause I kill off the other bs rats that you don't have to kill just for bounties and loot. nm, mach, paladin, take you pick. I used them all for stopping the thief.
don't get pointed cause I don't aggro the far off rats., only a bunch of webs form the ones that do aggro. -
July 13, 2010, 04:46:20 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
This loadout has been updated -
July 16, 2010, 03:23:36 pm
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 8
No, it's not a PVP ONLY module. If you look at it's attributes it gives resists to armor too. That is a + and a last second hope to please consider another option, thanks!.
Why someone would still have their 600 million ISK ship in full-fighting mode when their armor is steadily falling under 50% is beyond me. An EANM gives a lot more bonuses to armor resists.
Fortunately its a BS, so your armor wont WTFGONE on you, you could warp in to a shit-storm and still have time to align and warp safely.
If youre pointed and you go in to structure, well your
ed anyway thanks to the long locking time. On that note, when doing the mission "Stop The Thief! (lvl 4)" you WILL have to warp out as it has point frigs and HUGE dps.
Warp in, align to planet I, slow-boat, shoot things...and be sure your light drones are killing the frigs.
It's called ballz to the wallz.. and I do it ever so often. Carebearing needs more adrenaline. my kronos is worth like 8x the price of this fit. -
September 12, 2010, 04:55:45 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
+1 -
October 25, 2010, 10:55:32 am
Crewman Recruit
Reputation: 4
i personly would would put a better repper on this, also swap the battery for a webber,and swap a salvager for a enery vamp, usaly pinch cap of of a nearby frig or cruiser:) -
December 25, 2010, 03:29:03 am
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
This loadout has been updated -
January 05, 2011, 02:44:41 pm
Petty Officer 1st. Class
Reputation: 7
Too much tank. That EANM is not needed. Cap booster is not such a good idea for PvE - it does work on Marauders due to large cargo, but I don't like the idea of one more type of ammo to waste.
Needs one salvager 2 and two tractors, but I guess u don't have skills for salvager 2s yet.
Get Navy TCs -
January 05, 2011, 11:24:55 pm
CommanderReputation: 121
Cap booster is not such a good idea for PvE - it does work on Marauders due to large cargo, but I don't like the idea of one more type of ammo to waste.
umm...this is a Marauder.
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January 06, 2011, 12:02:53 am
Petty Officer 1st. ClassReputation: 7
umm...this is a Marauder.
like I said, booster does work here. I just don't like them for PvE -
January 07, 2011, 10:55:08 pm
Crewman Apprentice
Reputation: 8
-1 for an empire space L4 marauder that costs more money than it will take in nearly 3000 missions to pay for.
The point of a mission ship is to make money. This is nothing more than an ePeen stroker that actually would cost a person more ISK than it will likely earn in its lifetime. Sad, but true. If you were to replace all the faction items with T2 items, you would note that you're looking at 2-3% less tank, and 4% less DPS for a billion+ ISK worth of savings.
But hey, we all know on BattleClinic that people post fits like this for bling factor anyway. IMO, this is a nice haha type fit that I think morons would actually put on a L4 missioner. L5s/dead complexes... maybe because the benefits are much greater... but not for L4s. This is just stupid. -
January 08, 2011, 03:00:28 am
CommanderReputation: 121
I like bling...that means I must be a moron. SERIOUSLY?...it's not all that expensive. -
January 09, 2011, 12:22:23 pm
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
@TAM-TAPAm - if u would have checked the previous versions of the KRONOS, u would have noticed a big LAR, also an explanation why that X-type appears here; I only carry 5 800 charges, so no cargo space is used, btw i never used the booster yet, so u can replace it with anything else; if i take out the eanm, what would u put instead?
Xylander -
"-1 for an empire space L4 marauder that costs more money than it will take in nearly 3000 missions to pay for." - poor u, so happy in your ignorance
we all know Battleclinic is full of morons who are too lazzy even to read a few lines before posting ... btw, my ePeen is bigger than yours -
January 09, 2011, 12:26:16 pm
CommodoreReputation: 483
-1 for an empire space L4 marauder that costs more money than it will take in nearly 3000 missions to pay for.
most people are rich
The point of a mission ship is to make money. This is nothing more than an ePeen stroker that actually would cost a person more ISK than it will likely earn in its lifetime. Sad, but true. If you were to replace all the faction items with T2 items, you would note that you're looking at 2-3% less tank, and 4% less DPS for a billion+ ISK worth of savings.
But hey, we all know on BattleClinic that people post fits like this for bling factor anyway. IMO, this is a nice haha type fit that I think morons would actually put on a L4 missioner. L5s/dead complexes... maybe because the benefits are much greater... but not for L4s. This is just stupid.
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January 10, 2011, 01:00:37 pm
Petty Officer 1st. ClassReputation: 7
@TAM-TAPAm - if u would have checked the previous versions of the KRONOS, u would have noticed a big LAR, also an explanation why that X-type appears here; I only carry 5 800 charges, so no cargo space is used, btw i never used the booster yet, so u can replace it with anything else; if i take out the eanm, what would u put instead?
As I said - booster is ok here, I just don't like them for PvE. Get a TE instead of EANM (or cap relay) -
January 20, 2011, 10:09:28 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 2
Very similar to what i use -
February 07, 2011, 04:30:46 am
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 45
double
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February 07, 2011, 04:30:58 am
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 45
Omnitank fail, rig fail, drone link fail, afterburner fail, booster fail.
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February 09, 2011, 09:36:27 am
CommanderReputation: 121
Omnitank fail, rig fail, drone link fail, afterburner fail, booster fail.
post your fit if you're so wise. -
February 09, 2011, 11:01:43 pm
Member 1st ClassReputation: 0
double
does someone knows what that means?Omnitank fail, rig fail, drone link fail, afterburner fail, booster fail.
Omnitank fail - calling hardners omnitank ? U FAIL
rigs fail - u r 1/2 right, with the presence on the cap booster it seems a little redundant, so it can be replaced with nano pump, BUT since alot of ppl dont like the cap booster AND they will fit a large capacitor battery, the rig will stay there
drone link fail - no drone link present U FAIL
afterburner fail - i like going ~500m/s towards a gate
booster fail - it's either booster or battery, i prefer booster
pls, on the future, if u have something constructive to say, say it if not keep it for urself, it does make u look smarter.
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December 30, 2011, 12:30:43 am
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 59
double
does someone knows what that means?Omnitank fail, rig fail, drone link fail, afterburner fail, booster fail.
Omnitank fail - calling hardners omnitank ? U FAIL
rigs fail - u r 1/2 right, with the presence on the cap booster it seems a little redundant, so it can be replaced with nano pump, BUT since alot of ppl dont like the cap booster AND they will fit a large capacitor battery, the rig will stay there
drone link fail - no drone link present U FAIL
afterburner fail - i like going ~500m/s towards a gate
booster fail - it's either booster or battery, i prefer booster
pls, on the future, if u have something constructive to say, say it if not keep it for urself, it does make u look smarter.
