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Mad Hops
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How's the tanking capability on this? I don't mind that it's a drake, other than the fact that you could just use a drake for cheaper. But then again, most faction ships can be outdone by a battlecruiser. It's all about pride! ^^ But for this ship, I may add a 10MN afterburner for added tank.
Reisenkaze
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Actually the tanking ability is only marginally under, though noticeable, than that of a drake's. Then again it's a smaller ship so it's to be expected. Thing is, it does 200 more dps than a drake and has half the sig radius of one.
Mad Hops
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Reputation: 1036

I guess that's true. I may swap a resist amp for an afterburner, but I'm not sure whether it would fit. Time to get on EFT myself. :)
knight rider
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Reputation: 29

most notably, this is ultrapassive in the sense that no ewar will bother your drone dmg - im flying a similiar gila atm :)

for the resist amp swap, play around with:

mid:
thermic to shield recharger
low:
shield power relay to damage control

how's cap and resists after that?
knight rider
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Reputation: 29

small tractor would be nice if it fits
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

Not only that, but with FoF missiles combined with the drones, you are essentially immune to all forms of ewar.

Do not, however, use a shield recharger. They are a terrible mod for shield tanks. As for the DC, it won't fit because of the CPU.

Personally, I believe heavily in specialization. Which is why I've got a salvage catalyst that I do clean up with.

A few friends of mine were playing around with this ship and you can do more with the high slots if you downgrade or use faction launchers, but that brings things a little out of balance with the fit imo.
Draugy
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Reputation: 1

Just to note, 'Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I' gives the same bonuses for 6 less base CPU requirement. (4.5 less per module for All Lvl 5)

Just a suggestion if you want to free up a bit more CPU; if you switch to 3 of the other relays you will be able to fit a DC.
Mad Hops
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Reputation: 1036

Just to note, 'Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I' gives the same bonuses for 6 less base CPU requirement. (4.5 less per module for All Lvl 5)

Just a suggestion if you want to free up a bit more CPU; if you switch to 3 of the other relays you will be able to fit a DC.

They also cost like 5mil versus 1mil...
Makoyouidiot
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Reputation: 16

Just to note, 'Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I' gives the same bonuses for 6 less base CPU requirement. (4.5 less per module for All Lvl 5)

Just a suggestion if you want to free up a bit more CPU; if you switch to 3 of the other relays you will be able to fit a DC.

They also cost like 5mil versus 1mil...

Well, imho, if you're gonna be cheap, don't fly a faction ship? :P
Draugy
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Reputation: 1

Just to note, 'Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I' gives the same bonuses for 6 less base CPU requirement. (4.5 less per module for All Lvl 5)

Just a suggestion if you want to free up a bit more CPU; if you switch to 3 of the other relays you will be able to fit a DC.

They also cost like 5mil versus 1mil...

Well, imho, if you're gonna be cheap, don't fly a faction ship? :P

Exactly. 4 mill extra isn't that much of a difference for what you gain, either; now is it?
vicror
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Reputation: 123

what's it for?
Draugy
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Reputation: 1

Looks like a fun mission ship to me! Watching 5 heavy drones rape your target while in a cruiser...

* Draugy cackles.
_______

Oh yea, to add on about the Beta Reactor Controls I suggested earlier:

They allow you to fit a tractor beam. You may also fit a Salvager I with it if you have +5% CPU implant.
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

Missions and ratting basically. Still trying to work out a pvp fit. I would leave the tractor and salvager as personal preference, however, since without a speed mod it'd be faster to just get a different ship to do that.
Callorpor
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Reputation: 0

If you fit Beta control I's and dump the two invulnerability IIs for rat specific resistance amps, you can fit a tractor beam and a salvager without needing the implant.

but then of course you'll need to change res amps for each mission
Senso
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Reputation: 24

highfive for 2 empty highslots and a drake fit :D
Mad Hops
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Reputation: 1036

Well, imho, if you're gonna be cheap, don't fly a faction ship? :P

I prefer to spend as little on my tank as possible while having enough to sustain any mission. I'm fine with spending isk on dps. I don't ever put a tractor beam on my mission ship, but rather I just return with my salvaging ship.
Mike712
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Reputation: 781

No excuse not to use t2 purger rigs, they aren't even expensive.

Could do with an afterburner also as well as an omnidirectional tracking link.

[Gila, Passive Mission Runner]
Power Diagnostic System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Domination 10MN Afterburner
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Photon Scattering Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Ogre II x4
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

No excuse not to use t2 purger rigs, they aren't even expensive.

Could do with an afterburner also as well as an omnidirectional tracking link.


Normally I don't even consider t2 rigs in the least because it's not that much of a bonus compared to the price you pay for them. 80 mil in Jita for one, so I'd like to know where they're cheaper. Honestly, I didn't want this thing to start looking like a dream fit.

Thing is, your fit has nearly half the tank and a much higher cost. I was trying to go for something feasibly practical, though I'm aware "economical" and "faction" don't usually go together.

Kinda confused about the PDSII since your fit is stable without it and you have a large chuck of PG already open. You've got 26 minutes keeping the 4th SPRII, which is more than enough time to kill things.

I apologize, I was 3 days sleep deprived when I made this fit because I've been working on an ethics lecture so all that's going through my head for the most part is cost/benefit analysis like no other.

Although, I will take the highfive, Senso. ^^
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

whoops. double post.  :buck2:
Betray
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Reputation: 0

its not cap stable :(
Mike712
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Reputation: 781

No excuse not to use t2 purger rigs, they aren't even expensive.

Could do with an afterburner also as well as an omnidirectional tracking link.


Normally I don't even consider t2 rigs in the least because it's not that much of a bonus compared to the price you pay for them. 80 mil in Jita for one, so I'd like to know where they're cheaper. Honestly, I didn't want this thing to start looking like a dream fit.

Thing is, your fit has nearly half the tank and a much higher cost. I was trying to go for something feasibly practical, though I'm aware "economical" and "faction" don't usually go together.

Kinda confused about the PDSII since your fit is stable without it and you have a large chuck of PG already open. You've got 26 minutes keeping the 4th SPRII, which is more than enough time to kill things.

I apologize, I was 3 days sleep deprived when I made this fit because I've been working on an ethics lecture so all that's going through my head for the most part is cost/benefit analysis like no other.

Although, I will take the highfive, Senso. ^^

Yeh ignore that fit:

Here is a full passive fit with a 500 DPS+ tank and is cap stable with the afterburner for some sweet sig/speed tanking action.


[Gila, Passive Mission Runner]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I

Domination 10MN Afterburner
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Large Shield Extender II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II
Heat Dissipation Amplifier II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Tractor Beam I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II
Medium Core Defence Field Purger II


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Ogre II x4

Needs +1% CPU

Those rigs are 80 mil? Though they were only 60.
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

its not cap stable :(

You get almost 30 minutes cap time with 2 specific hardeners. If you can't deal with NPC's by dealing out 500 dps in that amount of time, you're doing something horribly wrong. Think of the Gila as a blend of Drake and the Raven for pve; Drake's passive tank and Raven's higher dps. Only reason a passive Drake with the same lows and mids can be stable with 2 specific hardeners is because of larger cap.
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065


Those rigs are 80 mil? Though they were only 60.

Hmm. That's a better fit, but I guess it's greatly up to personal preference.

Yeah. 80 mil and then 100 mil. I asked Krinkles to do a price check where he was and they were 90 mil in the region he was at.
scorcher24
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Reputation: 0

You could add a Drone Link Augmentor and Sentries...
rya.
Popoopop
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Reputation: 1

-1 Capacitor Control Circuit, +1 Sentry Damage Augmentor maybe?

But I like it, +1.
Mad Hops
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Reputation: 1036

-1 Capacitor Control Circuit, +1 Sentry Damage Augmentor maybe?

But I like it, +1.

What? There's no CCC's and the drone bay is currently filled with heavies, not sentries...
Hydrow
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Reputation: 0

Nice fit, I Dropped 1 of the Inv and added a Cap rech, cap stable with my (all be it very low with less then 6M SPs) skills.
theface26
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Reputation: 0

i don't get where your pulling your dps value from? EFT says 80dps? volley is correct tho?
vicror
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Reputation: 123

i don't get where your pulling your dps value from? EFT says 80dps? volley is correct tho?
you forget the ogre II's.  also, volleys of turrets is all that is calculated.
taken eft even futher as adding a gun to go with missiles it doesn't caculate both weapon systems.  just an fyi
theface26
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Reputation: 0

ahh, my bad of course. Thought there was something i was missing
SnakeLegend
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Reputation: 2

Can it do worlds collide better than a Drake/Raven? Because i've yet to try this one out.
shenryyr
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Reputation: 118

yes.  yes and more yes.  they really made guristas faction ships pimp with the drone upgrade.
vicror
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Reputation: 123

Can it do worlds collide better than a Drake/Raven? Because i've yet to try this one out.
how your drone skills?
DreadNaught723
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Reputation: 0

if it's for pve and doesn't have a0type and x-type on it that it doesn't deserve to fly.
-Biohazard-
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Reputation: 1

this loadout shoud be delted... i realy hate the fact this guy canot send his drones further than 46 kms ? or 45 who knows... but OK... -1 from me bcs he made me so dam angry comenting my loadout with a stupid coment and yea plz make me happy and don"t use heav assault mishs.. and yes!!!!!!!!!!my rattlesnake can do better !!!!
-Biohazard-
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Can it do worlds collide better than a Drake/Raven? Because i've yet to try this one out.
how your drone skills?

ofcourse it canot.. this ships canot tank it.. as i sayed it canot tank all lvl4"s... no way this **** can tank a lvl4 ""worlds colide"" make me happy and kill yourself and ban me from this page if u wana prevent any more coments like this one .

thx
bye
Joshman
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Reputation: 67

this loadout shoud be delted... i realy hate the fact this guy canot send his drones further than 46 kms ? or 45 who knows... but OK... -1 from me bcs he made me so dam angry comenting my loadout with a stupid coment and yea plz make me happy and don"t use heav assault mishs.. and yes!!!!!!!!!!my rattlesnake can do better !!!!

M8, noone cares about your fukin rattlesnake, and next time you post, could you possibly go out, buy this book, and then think about posting again?

Thx
Bye.
vicror
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Reputation: 123

kill yourself and ban me from this page if u wana prevent any more coments like this one .

u mad?
Mad Hops
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Reputation: 1036

kill yourself and ban me from this page if u wana prevent any more coments like this one .

u mad?

I would presume yes, but he won't be able to tell you...
Reisenkaze
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Reputation: 1065

kill yourself and ban me from this page if u wana prevent any more coments like this one .

u mad?

I would presume yes, but he won't be able to tell you...

You sent him to Candy Mountain didn't you...

Thank you though. :)
Mad Hops
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Reputation: 1036

kill yourself and ban me from this page if u wana prevent any more coments like this one .

u mad?

I would presume yes, but he won't be able to tell you...

You sent him to Candy Mountain didn't you...

Thank you though. :)

And then I took his freaking kidney...
Crunchbite36
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Reputation: 502

And then I took his freaking kidney...
:D

The New Gila

Reisenkaze's Gila built 2009-12-02

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Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Empty
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Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
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Eat your heart out, Passive Drake.

I know, 2 open high slots, but there's 8 CPU points left so meh.

Honestly, my jaw dropped when I saw this. The size of the drone bay... The ability to field 5 heavy drones... Jealous Myrmidon? And doesn't need damage mods to do the job :O but they're always optional. Switch out your hardeners, missiles, and drones for mission specifics, you know the drill. Btw, my first fitting to be posted here. o/

LVL V stats:
EM: 75.6
Therm: 80.5
Kin: 76.6
Exp: 80.6

Dps: 540
Volley: 536

Missile range: 63.3km
Targeting range: 68.75 km
Scan Resolution: 343.8 mm

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 72.5 km
Scan resolution 356.25
Sensor strength 22 0 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 243.75
Inertia modifier 0.4455
Signature radius 219.74 m
Cargo capacity 440 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 1750 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 20 minutes 20 seconds
Powergrid 527 / 837.5MW
CPU 427.75 / 500 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 10500
Shield recharge time 8 minutes
Shield resistances 67.45% 74.13% 68.95% 73.96%

Armor

Armor hit points 2750
Armor resistances 50% 10% 25% 45%

Structure

Structure hit points 3112.5
Structure resistances 0% 0% 0% 0%
Drone bandwidth 20 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 100 m3
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[Gila, The New Gila ]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Empty
Empty

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Ogre II
Item Quantity Value
Gila 1 274,206,000
Shield Power Relay II 4 384,997
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 2 1,675,000
Heavy Missile Launcher II 3 847,461
Ogre II 1 1,101,270
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II 1 685,773
EM Ward Amplifier II 1 651,917
Large Shield Extender II 2 909,898
Mjolnir Precision Heavy Missile 1 247
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I 3 2,000,000
Total 291,897,374
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