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[Abaddon] C5 Wormhole Ops


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Abaddon, 209,040,000 ISK
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Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Ammo
Multifrequency L, 85,508 ISK
Cargo
Drones
Hammerhead II, 627,999 ISK
Hobgoblin II, 414,715 ISK
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Apocrypha 1.5.1
10th September 2009
4,129 Armor tank, Gun boat, Passive tank, PvE
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[Abaddon, [Abaddon] C5 Wormhole Ops]
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Tachyon Beam Laser II
Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter II
Large Remote Armor Repairer II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II
Hobgoblin II
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  • Enjoyable Fish
  • Memitim901
  • Mournful Conciousness

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Targeting Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 100000 m
Scan resolution 106.25 mm
Sensor strength 0 0 0 22
Size/Movement Max velocity 111.25
Inertia modifier 0.0945
Signature radius 470 m
Cargo capacity 525 m3
Systems Capacitor capacity 7968.75 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 3 minutes 55 seconds
Powergrid 21067.8 / 26250 MW
CPU 657.5 / 700 tf
Shields Shield capacity 8750
Shield recharge time 31 minutes 15 seconds
Shield resistances 12.5% 56.25% 47.5% 30%
Armor Armor hit points 10625
Armor resistances 78.61% 65.78% 67.91% 72.19%
Structure Structure hit points 10000
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drones Drone capacity 75 m3
Drone bandwidth 75 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m
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This ship is used in fleet wormhole ops (PVE) against sleeper sites.  Every BS in the fleet has a cap transfer partner and assists the Logistics boats with remote repairing as needed.  This ship is totally cap stable with a transfer partner, or you can drop cap rechargers for tracking computers to increase your DPS (especially if there are two logistics ships in fleet) because you won't need the remote repairing then.

I carry a full set of T1 crystals; I'm there to make ISK, not spend money on Aurora L, especially since most ships are within Standard L range anyway.  Adjust drones to taste, I just want the best smalls I can get--as most of the time your drones are on frigates.

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  • November 25, 2009, 06:37:53 am

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    tachyon... :2funny:

    i get the point for remote and cap transfert ... but the rest ...

    i do cls3  spawn in solo hac or legion i've tried  some cls4 in legion but .... cls5 never tried still as a bs cant solo a cls3 how many people you will need to do a cls5 ( logistic inclued )

    for the fit .... sorry i cant rate it standart abaddon goes pulse scorch (amarr multi or other for less breakable but quite good lens eventualy non faction) tracking comp and track enhancer ( sometime )

  • November 25, 2009, 06:53:28 am

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    yeah your tracjing will be screwed up. get megapulse or downgrade to "smaller" large beams for a better tracking.
  • November 25, 2009, 06:57:26 am

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    i will not go for MBLS either but it would help a bit for tracking
  • November 25, 2009, 07:44:48 am

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    Use 8 Mega beams since you have dedicated logistics.

    Needs a tracking comp.
  • November 25, 2009, 10:39:34 am

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    ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard. ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard.

    I /specifically/ said you can change out cap rechargers for tracking computers/sensor boosters if you have two logistics ships.  You still need a cap transfer all the time, and everyone fits a remote rep--everyone.  6 tachs = 7 megas in DPS, but don't track as well.

    So then I'm positive none of the tracking commenters have done C5 wormhole sites, because I'm dancing in the streets if the target is closer than 50km.  Average range to target is 75 km, and 90% of the time you're shooting 60-90 km.

    Oh and when you fit Tracking Computers--OPTIMAL RANGE scripts, you want to use a more powerful crystal farther out--the tracking isn't an issue.
  • November 25, 2009, 10:42:59 am

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    You need a tracking comp and 8 mega beams - those guardian setups you posted can more than take care of you
  • November 25, 2009, 11:02:56 am

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    ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard. ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard.

    Everyone runs an energy transfer and remote repair, or they don't join the op.  I'm not sure what I'm not explaining correctly.  Say one of the Guardians loses his connection.  The sleepers don't call timeout and stop shooting the other one; we all remote repair him.  Say catastrophe hits--we get jumped by enemy players (it's a wormhole after all)--we have a massive spider tank set up.

    Start with an Abaddon--fit on a t2 LETA and LRARS--now build your ship.  That's why I clearly stated that every BS in the fleet has to have a LETA & LRARS fitted.  I appreciate the suggestion of 8 megas and a tracking computer, and agree it's more damage--but C5 sites are not about who hit the ships the hardest--it's about surviving in a very, very dangerous scenario and getting paid a whole lot of ISK as a result.

    I *do* fit Tracking Computers, and stated that--but only when I know I won't need to turn my LRARS *on*.  I still fit it.
  • November 25, 2009, 11:13:53 am

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    Memitim901 has no influence.

    The only thing I suggest different is that you use minmatar drones instead.  They are a slight dip in damage but make up for it in speed, they have a better chance of avoiding being hit and can come back to you quicker if they start taking damage.  Other than that I wish we would have brought these on a few of our C4 outings +1.
  • November 25, 2009, 02:07:28 pm

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    ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard. ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard.

    With 1-2 EW battleships, plus 2 logistics ships (or logistic fitted BS's) you'll find that your drones never get attacked (I don't even recall mine when the next wave spawns).  So you just want as much damage as you can get out of them--that's why I go with the Hammerheads.  Honestly, whatever drones you're best with is what you should go with, although I honestly have considered carrying a set of light scouts and medium armor maintenance, because I rarely use drones on anything but the frigs.  (Cruisers pop too fast even when they are in drone range from our guns, and the BS's are rarely close enough for my drones anyway.  So I stick my medium reps on one of the logistics ships and leave them.)

    As a side note, one of our guys always brings a Typhoon.  ><  It's... not the best ship we have there, in my opinion.
  • November 25, 2009, 04:01:24 pm

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    As a side note, one of our guys always brings a Typhoon.  ><  It's... not the best ship we have there, in my opinion.

    Just for the record the Typhoon is an extremely versatile ship and is very effective when its fit properly, so its most likely the player's fit, not the ship.

    Anyways, the fit looks fine, I doubt you'd have tracking issues so long as you don't try ramming enemy ships.

    Although a tracking computer can help, knowing that you have tracking issues and playing accordingly will help more.
  • December 01, 2009, 03:54:03 am

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    ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard. ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard.

    I agree with you completely--the Typhoon is a very versatile ship.  The problem is that in a C5 wormhole team you don't need versatility.  The DPS ships need to do two things:  Inflict as much damage as possible from 50-100 km, and have very, very good armor resists/buffer tank.

    The Typhoon can't make up it's mind between missiles and guns, and has too few LO slots.  End result is that you can't fit a good buffer and damage upgrades, and what damage upgrades you do fit on will only affect half your weapons.  So, it's just not that great for C5 wormhole ops.  The Abaddon gets a damage bonus and passive tanking bonus--it was made for C5 sites.  :)
  • December 01, 2009, 08:37:34 pm

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    Ive seen phoons pump out nearly 1000 DPS and still have over 100K EHP (Omni) which frankly seems to be quite decent, perhaps even better than this fit.

    The ONLY thing wrong with a phoon is the amount of SP required to use it properly.

    One fit, on battle clinic, does 1349DPS and has 108K EHP so even if you cut 2 rep. artillery off of it (un-bonused as it uses BCUs) for your RR, you should be able to work something out that will be quite efficient.

    As for the "can't make up it's mind between missiles and guns"

    A: You forgot the drones :P it's really a 33/33/33 kind of ship as far as damage is concerned.
    B: Luckily, It doesn't have to, the pilot can chose for it :D

    C5 sites are not about who hit the ships the hardest--it's about surviving in a very, very dangerous scenario and getting paid a whole lot of ISK as a result.
    That is actually pretty much the Ideal use for a phoon, with 4 weapons of whatever you chose you can easily fit your logistics aspect in and still have space for other weapons/Utilities, and I've heard that they're re working the phoon in "dominion" to allow for 5 of w/e type of weapon, which will allow the pilot to specialize in w/e weapon type they want and still be the perfect RR BS (not that the ship actually needed it, but it is nice to have more options).

    I'm quite convinced that the phoon can do pretty much anything this ship can and then some, not that this fit is bad, in any way.

                                                        Well, Fly Safe,
                                                                     NAI
  • December 13, 2009, 11:41:22 am

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    ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard. ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard.

    A typhoon shelling out 1000 DPS?  Base fitting, implants not calculated?  I'm not saying implants don't count, I'm just saying a +damage implant works the same for a Typhoon as an Abaddon, so I wouldn't list that in a Battleclinic fitting, myself.  This is what the ship does before factoring in implants, boosters, fleet bonuses, etc.

    And EHP, while good, is not as important as your resists.  Survival in a C5 site (and most PVE) is based on your ability to out-repair the incoming damage.  The typhoon does not have enough LO slots to fit an effective passive armor tank _and_ still fit damage modules; whatever damage modules you do fit will only affect 4 of your weapons.

    I have nothing against the Typhoon; but the Abaddon destroys it as a DPS ship of choice for Sleeper sites.  I'm still happily using this fit (and most of the DPS boats are now Abaddons in our fleet) although I tend to carry around Medium Armor Maintenance drones now instead of the mediums.  Most targets I would use medium drones on are too far away, die too quickly when they aren't, and mediums are harder to pull back in quickly enough if attacked.

    It's nice to have the medium repair drones to throw at a logistics ship.
  • December 13, 2009, 06:27:17 pm

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    OK.... please use a typhoon before posting something like that ^^

    You most certainly can put out about 1K DPS without implants.

    The thing has SEVEN (7) low slots, I don't know where you get the "not have enough LO slots". By the exact same logic the abaddon gets disqualified as-well, sure it gets a little more tank because of the resist bonus but it really isn't needed.

    And as far as drones go..... the abaddon really isn't worthy of note at all.

    I'm not saying that the abaddon isn't a good choice, I just don't get you dumping on an excellent ship without checking your facts first.

    Back to the fit, if your sure to have logistics, you could rig it differently, a few armor rigs/DPS rigs depending on how reliable your logistics pilots are.
  • December 24, 2009, 04:00:46 am

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    ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard. ThaddeusBrutor struggles to be heard.

    I don't fly Minmatar; I'd love to see a Typhoon fit that kicks out 1000 DPS without fleet bonuses/implants.  On EFT I can get an Abaddon up to 1172 @ 15 km using 8 t2 mega pulse w/ conflag + 5x t2 hammerheads, and EIGHT heat sinks (stacking penalty be damned).

    I'm not saying it's not possible--I'm saying I don't know what that fit looks like.  I did get one up to 1377 @ 3 km with 5 ACs and 3 Torps all t2 ammo, t2 ogres, 5 gyros and 3 bcs.  Besides being completely impractical, heavy drones can get popped in a C5, while mediums/lights typically don't do enough damage to draw attention.  I'm glad to see they added the 5th turret/missile hardpoint though, that really helps.  Sorry but 4 artillery + 2 cruise + 3 gyros (the max weapons at the time of this discussion) isn't going to touch 6 beams + 3 heat sinks--simply because you can't boost all of your weapons with just 3 LO slots.  Plus without the resist bonus you really need to fit a plate in a C5+ wormhole.

    I never said the Typhoon is a bad ship--I just said that an Abaddon is going to be tougher and do more damage in a C5 wormhole.
  • December 24, 2009, 10:37:57 pm

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    Well this has gone on long enough, my point be damned.

                                     Fly Safe,
                                       And don't fit artillery to a phoon,
                                                                      NAI
  • December 09, 2010, 01:40:58 am

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    Nice fit. We're just entering a C5, having a C1 and C3 also. How necessary is the LETA prior to escalation waves?

    We'll have triage carriers to see the guys through the escalations.

    +1
  • December 09, 2010, 09:42:29 am

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    Nice necro there. I like the fit though. Posthumous +1