Loadout: Cormorant: 125mm Railgun Level 1 Mission Cormorant
Cormorant: 125mm Railgun Level 1 Mission Cormorant
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Ship fitting - Built on November 13, 2009
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I don't post many loadouts for small ships, they aren't really my thing, but the cormorant is a bit special to me. I was my first proper ship and also the first ship I ever lost as well as the first ship I ever solo PvP'd in. In fact I still use one now for catching pods and frigs.
If I had known back then what I know now and taking into account availability of the small rigs this is how I would have fit my cormorant, in fact how I have a cormorant fit just like this for starting missions for new factions albeit with tech 2 mods and guns. The beauty of the a destroyer over a frigate is alpha strike. Even with very minimal gunnery skills combined with the great tracking and range of 125mm railguns as well as the cormorants inherent tracking and range bonuses you will be alpha striking NPC's as fast as you can lock them up. I highly recommend this setup to anyone that's just stating out in eve, it really is hugely effective for the time it takes to train and considering it's cost. With slightly better skills it can even work as an effective low sec ratter, with long range ammo I even manage to tackle battlecruiser spawns within the first few days of playing EVE and due to it's superior agility you are more likely to be able to evade pirates in low sec than in a cruiser. Required SKills: Destroyers 1 Small Hybrid Turrets 1 Weapon Upgrades 1 Shield Upgrades 1 Tactical Shield Manipulation 1 Shield Rigging 1 Afterburner 1 Engineering 4 Recommended skills: Small Hybrid Turret 4 Destroyers 4 Energy Management 3 Energy Systems Operation 3 |
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November 13, 2009, 04:49:25 pmCrewman
Reputation: 2
Like it. -
November 13, 2009, 05:22:24 pm
Petty Officer 3rd. Class
Reputation: 1
needs a salvager for missioning. -
November 13, 2009, 06:56:52 pm
Commodore
Reputation: 655
needs a salvager for missioning.
It fits with low skills and even though it's a fairly long skill to train I guess it's something any prospective mission runner may as well train early on.
Edit: Added salvager -
November 14, 2009, 08:56:25 am
Member 2nd Class
Reputation: 0
What can I say? This is very similar to my lvl1 mission running/rat killing comorant. My big difference is that I swaped out to two 150's to aid in kiting tactics.
Took a while to train up when training barges also but a great toy when the reliable income from mining gets stale.
Thanks Its all good.
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November 23, 2009, 10:07:51 pm
Member 5th Class
Reputation: 0
Hey there, I just got this fit that you've posted on here. I'm having trouble getting enough out of the power grid. I currently have a maximum of 63.25 Powergrid. I need to squeeze out a total 2.15 more from the powergrid. What skills would help me achieve this? -
November 24, 2009, 09:21:53 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
Hey there, I just got this fit that you've posted on here. I'm having trouble getting enough out of the power grid. I currently have a maximum of 63.25 Powergrid. I need to squeeze out a total 2.15 more from the powergrid. What skills would help me achieve this?
Primarily engineering.
This should fit with engineering at lv3.
Update: Added skill list to OP for future reference. -
November 26, 2009, 04:31:11 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
You need engineering 4 for tactical shield manipulation.
And at low skills you will run out of cap rather fast. Perhaps 1 ccc? -
November 27, 2009, 12:08:21 pm
CommodoreReputation: 655
You need engineering 4 for tactical shield manipulation.
Thanks, I will correct.And at low skills you will run out of cap rather fast. Perhaps 1 ccc?
You really don't need much cap, this finishes most lv1 missions in around 10-30 seconds even with very low skills. -
December 05, 2009, 02:13:16 pm
Petty Officer 2nd. Class
Reputation: 4
i like it, +1
brings back memorys of when i was really new in EVE and im glad to see a good build that isnt just a salvage cormy. ill definatly be useing this when im finished with Cal Nav. and salvager seems ok too, tho im wondering what woul dbe better for that high slot since those of us with ships capable of doing L4s can get better Isk and loot. -
January 04, 2010, 12:49:28 am
Senior Chief Petty Officer
Reputation: 47
Solid fit for newbies. +1 -
January 20, 2010, 10:32:46 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
You only need Eng 3 for TSM eve-wiki
You need eng 4 to make this fit though. -
January 27, 2010, 05:45:03 am
Lieutenant, Junior Grade
Reputation: 51
nice fit, will use for some of the younger pilots in buddies corp. -
March 02, 2010, 12:21:11 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
can this be used in lv 2 missions maybe with tech 2 items? -
March 03, 2010, 10:53:46 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
can this be used in lv 2 missions maybe with tech 2 items?
At a stretch, it will do some level 2s with long range ammo and a few warp outs.
It's not what I'd call practical though you would be better moving on to an assault missile launcher caracal. -
April 07, 2010, 03:22:21 am
Member 1st Class
Reputation: 1
I agree this will probably fold in most level 2s. Got to see how quickly this does lvl 1 missions because cap is a bit of a worry. got an amazing about of dps for its size though so should be ok. +1 -
April 23, 2010, 07:56:58 pm
Petty Officer 2nd. ClassReputation: 13
This is good but would you please post the stats thanks. -
April 24, 2010, 06:57:13 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
This is good but would you please post the stats thanks.
Not much point in posting stats, because no one is going to be using this with all level 5s anyway.
It does roughly 100 DPS, has about 30-40 DPS tank from passive regen and goes more than 500m/s.
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May 24, 2010, 11:34:04 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Hey Mike, nice loadout. How did you get 500m/s from it? I can only manage 350. -
May 25, 2010, 08:25:54 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
Hey Mike, nice loadout. How did you get 500m/s from it? I can only manage 350.
The skills Navigation and Acceleration control will improve your speed by 5% each level. -
July 03, 2010, 03:20:24 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Thanks for this set up. My loadout is still a work in progress but much better than the route I was on thanks to this recommendation.
Do you have a suggestion for making 150mm work as well as Invulnerability Shield vs.Shield Matrix which is currently about 1 Mil ISK. (My skills are mostly 3s going on 4). -
July 04, 2010, 05:17:08 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
Thanks for this set up. My loadout is still a work in progress but much better than the route I was on thanks to this recommendation.
Do you have a suggestion for making 150mm work as well as Invulnerability Shield vs.Shield Matrix which is currently about 1 Mil ISK. (My skills are mostly 3s going on 4).
Don't bother with 150mms you can fit them with an axuilary power core 1, but if you use that low slot for a mag stab and use 125s you will actually do more damage. Also 125s track small targets much better.
As for the invuln field, just use t1 non named. -
July 30, 2010, 09:11:29 pm
Member 3rd class
Reputation: 1
why would you put a salvager on it? -
July 31, 2010, 06:23:21 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
why would you put a salvager on it?
Why not? Salvaging some wrecks(those that drop plates and trit bars) can bring in more isk than the mission rewards and bounties put together.
Of course if you can't use a salvager simply leave it off.
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August 23, 2010, 08:42:53 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Hi, I am starting to run level II missions, and wanted to try this fitting, will it do or should I try another fitting or maybe a different ship?? -
August 23, 2010, 09:28:50 am
Member 3rd classReputation: 0
Notoriious,
As Mike himself said earlier:
"At a stretch, it will do some level 2s with long range ammo and a few warp outs.
It's not what I'd call practical though you would be better moving on to an assault missile launcher caracal."
In lv.1, the Cormo will kill everything too fast to take much damage, but in lv.2 you need more toughness --> go cruiser. -
August 25, 2010, 10:13:03 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
THx, I will try that -
October 11, 2010, 01:24:58 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 1
needs some t2 -
October 12, 2010, 04:12:44 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
needs some t2
It's for a 1-2 day old player, so no it doesn't...seriously
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November 30, 2010, 10:54:21 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Shield Rigging 1 requires Jury Rigging 3. -
January 15, 2011, 01:04:35 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 1
Used this myself. Good stuff. -
January 16, 2011, 02:18:26 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 3
+1 also works for level 2s kiting at range -
February 01, 2011, 03:15:39 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Would switching out a shield extender for a shield booster be worth it? If so, what shield booster would you recommend? I'd imagine a small one, of course.
+1 -
February 03, 2011, 07:06:54 am
CommodoreReputation: 655
Would switching out a shield extender for a shield booster be worth it? If so, what shield booster would you recommend? I'd imagine a small one, of course.
+1
No, don't bother with a shield booster, this has plenty of passive tank for all level 1 missions, a shield booster won't give you much more tank, you should never mix buffer/passive tank with a shield booster and you would drain your cap in seconds. -
April 18, 2011, 07:27:24 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 1
This was my first proper fit, I was floundering around in the dark till I found this site. Thanks Mike, I will take a look at your other load-outs too. I can confirm that a few level 2's are possible in this, but don't try unless you have a change of underpants at the ready ;p -
June 23, 2011, 06:13:28 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 1
Hi, i have bought this fitting, but i haven't enough energy to activate all.
Which skilling i need? -
July 24, 2011, 07:22:09 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 1
Hi, i have bought this fitting, but i haven't enough energy to activate all.
Which skilling i need?
Weapons Upgrades - 5% reduction per skill level in the CPU needs of weapon turrets, launchers and smartbombs.
Controlled Bursts - 5% reduction in capacitor need of weapon turrets per skill level.
Energy Management - 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per skill level.
Energy Systems Operation - 5% reduction in capacitor recharge time per skill level.
Engineering - 5% Bonus to ship's powergrid output per skill level.
Shield Upgrades - 5% reduction in shield upgrade powergrid needs.
Electronics - 5% Bonus to ship CPU output per skill level.
These are all really good skills to level to help optimize cpu and power output vs usage. I am still training a few of these to level 3 and 4 myself, so I am not sure what levels I need to get my capacitor to be fully stable with everything turned online. I will update this post once I do know.
Also, check your certification planner and see if you have gotten the core competency basic certificate. If not, definitely work towards getting that. Core competency is a very frequently overlooked certification, but having atleast the basic core competency gives you a really good foundation to build on and it doesn't take that long to get.
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March 07, 2012, 01:03:08 am
Member 5th ClassReputation: 0
Great fit! Been using it for a while and loving it. -
March 15, 2012, 12:34:33 pm
Member 5th ClassReputation: 1
Very nice fit. +1!
