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• Arvald

  June 28, 2007, 07:52:54 am

  
  

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  also forgot to mention you will need engineering at level 5 to make it all fit, unless you drop the salvager that is.
• Axmathos

  June 28, 2007, 09:53:17 am

  
  

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  Umm, if you're relying on speed to keep you alive, wouldn't you want a AB/MWD?
  
  Just curious.
• Tonto Auri

  June 29, 2007, 01:25:12 am

  
  

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  Looks like PvE setup, where MWD is about to useless.
  But dampeners in PvE useless too. Can't rate this loadout without additional information...
• Axmathos

  June 29, 2007, 05:36:41 am

  
  

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  It sounds like PVP from the comment about gang members with a web being around.
• Tonto Auri

  June 29, 2007, 11:24:48 pm

  
  

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  If it is a GVG mod - why not use bonuses for damage?
  My preferred setup:
  Migs:
  1x Cold-Gas
  1x Sensor Booster
  1x Target Painter
  Lows:
  2x Ballistic Control Unit
  
  In any SB You have one spare slot (mid or low) for cap charger or other situational mod. I prefer cap relay as it boost my CAP charge to level where I have full cap at end of warp and I can operate much longer. Of course it slightly useless in SB and You may prefer second sensor booster or overdrive/istab.
  Low on PG in many bombers tend to use PG rigs, but if You have AWU at any significant level, one Ancillary Current Router is enough to fit it all and You may use second slot for CCC or more specific rig.
• Arvald

  July 08, 2007, 08:53:05 pm

  
  

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  this is ment as a purely support not main gank setup, trust me you do not want to use this solo (also the OD's are mainly for staying at 100+ km)
• kwisatz

  July 09, 2007, 03:39:50 am

  
  

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  Last I checked the Manticore was pushing 3 megatons in mass.  You'd only get half of the expected boost.  You're still looking at around a 75% boost in speed but, that's only when decloaked.  The OD IIs work while cloaked.  You can get over 400 m/s cloaked velocity with two of em.
• Arvald

  July 09, 2007, 02:57:37 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: kwisatz on July 09, 2007, 03:39:50 am

  Last I checked the Manticore was pushing 3 megatons in mass.  You'd only get half of the expected boost.  You're still looking at around a 75% boost in speed but, that's only when decloaked.  The OD IIs work while cloaked.  You can get over 400 m/s cloaked velocity with two of em.
  

  
  exactly thats te point of this setup, your gona want to be able to cloak and get some more distance if your enemy gets too close
• josh_1143

  July 09, 2007, 04:56:53 pm

  
  

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  first off drop the salvager it has no place in pvp , if i ever heared a gang member say "hold on guys im just gona salvage this wreck" not only would i worry about his intentions ansd the rest of his setup i thinki would just pod him there and then for taking the piss. not to mention your out at 100km not on top the the wrecks and if youer support you should have your mind on the job at all times.
  
  other than that yeah looks cool, mabe a sebo for another damp if you have the lock range still
• kwisatz

  July 09, 2007, 05:09:29 pm

  
  

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  although not fitting on this ship, and surely not an effective use of a high slot, PVP is nearly (with the exception of the rare rat) the only source of T2 rig components (being salvaged from t2 ships).  Its not a bad idea to have someone salvage fallen AFs, HACs, and command ships.
• josh_1143

  July 09, 2007, 05:16:28 pm

  
  

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  yeah but not the guy sat 100km +out with a smallish cargo hold ful off cruise missles made smaller with overdrivers
• kwisatz

  July 09, 2007, 05:29:56 pm

  
  

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  Yepp.  I don't think having a small cargohold is that big of a deal for him.  With 2 overdrive injector IIs he'll have 76 m3 of cargo space.  That's enough for 1520 cruise missiles.  That'd be more than enough for a raven in a pvp fight, yet alone a stealth bomber.
• josh_1143

  July 09, 2007, 05:33:40 pm

  
  

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  pvp fight not in a roaming gang though and again i go back to the argument that he is 100km + away
• kwisatz

  July 09, 2007, 05:36:09 pm

  
  

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  I'm not sure what we are arguing about.  The overdrives or the salvager? 
  
  I agree the salvager doesn't belong on this ship. 
• josh_1143

  July 09, 2007, 05:42:12 pm

  
  

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  yeah was arguing the salvager,
  
  over drivers are cool , could be picky and suggest a nano and a over driver but 2 overdrivers is prob the best option if your looking for cloaked speed, or you could mix it up with a bcu
• Arvald

  July 09, 2007, 11:51:05 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: josh_1143 on July 09, 2007, 05:33:40 pm

  pvp fight not in a roaming gang though and again i go back to the argument that he is 100km + away
  

  
  to tell the truth i put the salvager on there because i needed a slot filler, i couldent think of anything else to put there
• josh_1143

  July 10, 2007, 09:58:20 am

  
  

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  well a bomb launcher mabe?
• Arvald

  July 23, 2007, 10:06:45 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: josh_1143 on July 10, 2007, 09:58:20 am

  well a bomb launcher mabe?
  [/quote}way too expensive for bombs in just a roving gang
• Horace Harkness

  July 25, 2007, 05:26:07 am

  
  

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  Okay, I am a little confused. When I look at the skills required (from the print/view) it lists Survey III. I can not see why that skill is required. What am I missing?
  Thx.
• Arvald

  July 25, 2007, 01:48:13 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Horace Harkness on July 25, 2007, 05:26:07 am

  Okay, I am a little confused. When I look at the skills required (from the print/view) it lists Survey III. I can not see why that skill is required. What am I missing?
  Thx.
  

  theres a salvager fittied, you dont need the salvager i just puted it there for sng, ill remove it
• Horace Harkness

  July 26, 2007, 03:50:27 am

  
  

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  Granted, I guess I should have said why Lvl III? The salvager only needs lvl I (from Evemon). Currently BC and Evemon are in disagreement.
• Arvald

  August 23, 2007, 09:42:54 pm

  
  

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  huh odd