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• ReaKtionary

  June 26, 2007, 07:44:09 pm

  
  

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  Looks good man . Generally, we try to work with the current setup, not completely re-working it.
  
  Here's my suggestion dude: grab a couple of Medium Nos and Swap a hardener for another Repper, looks like you have enough cap.
• cougem

  June 27, 2007, 03:16:21 am

  
  

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  Yeh you'll have bags of cap for a 2nd rep. I dual a dual rep PVE myrm with only 3 cap rechargers (I put a web in the mids as well myself, but actually I'm not desperately fussed keen on it - maybe use a drone nav computer?).
  
  Drones wise I actually prefer 5 lights 4 heavies.
• Axmathos

  June 27, 2007, 06:19:39 am

  
  

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  Thanks for the replies guys, I'm trying to figure out where I can upgrade to T2 gear.  Here are some of my thoughts:
  
  1. Swap the T1 cap rechargers for T2.  This along with increased cap skills should let me swap out a cap recharger for a drone mod (omni tracker or drone nav).
  
  2. T2 guns.  Not sure where to go with this.  I've played around in quickfit a little bit, but I can't seem to be able to fit 5 T2 guns on this boat.  I have weapons upgrades 4 atm, with 5 coming in the near future, will AWU help with this?  I can't see how since I'm like 100 PG short of a fifth gun, but who knows?  Also, I prefer rails because I haven't had much good experience with blasters to this point.  Might be just my gun skills suck.
  
  3. T2 AB.  Not essential, but maybe this will help fit some other stuff.
  
  4. Swap a EANM II for a DCU II.  Would this help?  I'd avoid the stacking penalty for the 2 EANMs.
  
  Keep the advice coming guys.
  
  Thanks,
  Axmathos
• ReaKtionary

  June 27, 2007, 07:55:02 am

  
  

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  1. Looks good
  
  2. meh, I'd still go with the Nosferatu idea personally, but if you're sticking with guns, AWU 5 isn't going to give you an extra 100 PG. Asuming 2% per skill level with 5 guns, you'd need each of them with a base PG use of 1,000, which you wouldn't be able to effectively fit on a BC anyway.
  
  3. Speed is always good, for PvP especially, but not necessarily for a Player vs. EVE setup. Personal choice on your part for the AB.
  
  4. Using a DCU II WILL avoid the stacking penalty, but you will still get better resistances with the second EANM, especially with well trained Compensation skills. A DCU on the Myrm' is highly recommended and some never leave dock without one, so what you may want to do is swap your Kinetic Hardener for one.
  
  @ Cougem: Mixing drone types is like mixing guns to me, you don't do it, it won't help any, it's a bad idea, blah blah blah.
  What I'd recommend is 2 sets of Mediums, one set of Lights. But if this is infact for PvE then Heavys are preffered, just get aggro first then set 'em free. 
• Axmathos

  June 27, 2007, 08:44:24 am

  
  

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  Hi Reak, Nossing has never seemed that effective for me since anything in Nos range tends to die pretty quick, and I'm not a huge fan of close range.  But maybe I'll give it a try and see how it goes.
• ReaKtionary

  June 27, 2007, 08:51:07 am

  
  

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  Well it looks like you have enough cap to feed a Pilgrim and then some, but I actually spoke out of line there. For PvE you are best off with your guns. Also, fitting a DCU on a PvE setup isn't very effective, as you'll still get better armor resistances with the EANM, plus you should never be in Hull in a PvE situation.
• Axmathos

  June 27, 2007, 10:00:32 am

  
  

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  Rgr, thanks ReaK
• cougem

  June 27, 2007, 05:41:57 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: ReaKtionary on June 27, 2007, 07:55:02 am

  @ Cougem: Mixing drone types is like mixing guns to me, you don't do it, it won't help any, it's a bad idea, blah blah blah.
  

  
  OMG?!
  
  I said 5 lights and 4 heavies. You can only launch 5 at any time, so how is that mixing? Either you have 5 lights out OR 4 heavies and 1 light, how is that mixing?!?! And mixing drones is NOTHING like mixing guns because there's no optional range. Are you for serious?
  
  Edit: I've re-read your posts otherwise though and sound advice: DCs are for PvP - if you're in hull you're PvEing incorrectly - armor resistance is recoverable and hence economical (which is what PvE is all about).
  
  I actually fit a few e50 nos in my pve setup myself - mainly out of habbit though; when I first started level 3s the cap was limiting, now it's more the time.
• ReaKtionary

  June 27, 2007, 05:53:54 pm

  
  

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  Lol the mixing drones thing was my personal opinion dude, just how I see it. Using 5 heavys you'll have enough firepower for a level 4 and then some. 5 lights is definately a good idea for frigs, as the heavy's have a very hard time hitting them, though it's still possible with skills. So for PvE, I was merely suggesting going for the most firepower.
• Axmathos

  June 28, 2007, 06:02:33 am

  
  

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  Ok, so now that we're on the topic of drones, would it be better to use T1 heavies or T2 lights and mediums?  My drones haven't had any trouble with lvl 3 BCs and below.  My drone skills aren't too bad atm, but as everything else, could do with some improvement  .
• ReaKtionary

  June 28, 2007, 06:56:30 am

  
  

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  Well I only just noticed the other day that t2 Sentries are finally on the market. That would make them the most powerful non-fighter drones in-game.
  
  Just had to get that off my chest.
  
  Well... t2 drones have about the same DPS as the t1 next-level-up drone, i.e. a Hobgoblin II will do as much damage per second as a Hammerhead I.
  
  So t2 Mediums will give you roughly the same DPS as t1 Heavys, only a lot faster and you can load more of them. Only problem with using t2 mediums is that they're a tad costy and there is the off-chance of losing a few.
• Axmathos

  June 28, 2007, 07:06:39 am

  
  

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  True enough, well I haven't lost any T2 drones due to user error, just DCs and crap like that.
• Odell

  June 09, 2010, 03:28:35 am

  
  

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  Thanks for posting a good loadout... I'm a WH Carebear miner who knows zero about pve or pvp past my frigate and part of the epic arc. That being said I used this outfit as a guide for a sleeper killer in the wh. Now I don't have to wait for a PVP/PVE'r to come and clear my Roid site. Only changes I made were a Target painter dropped one cap recharge and a damage control for a Nano membrain. My first site I took out 4 sleepers and never went near 2/3 armor and never touched my armor repair.