Loadout: Harbinger: 800 dps, 48k EHP shield gank
Harbinger: 800 dps, 48k EHP shield gank
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Ship fitting - Built on July 3, 2009
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Something I recently modified off a loadout I fly.
stats in title. yes it is rigged, but the rigs are cheap and unless you're super cheap they are worth it. This is meant mainly for gangs since we tend to go out with scimis a lot, and it seemed fun. |
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July 03, 2009, 11:56:55 pm
If you drop a heatsink, you give up 40 dps but can switch over to a T2 Damage control. it also frees up enough CPU to replace the invunerability field with another large shield extender, and enables you to fit a T2 microwarp. You can then lower cost and increase effective hp by switching the shield extender rig with another resistance one. And you can still get a T2 tracking enhancer in what was the heatsink slot. Actually i found a couple other ways you could make the build more efficient, but it was only marginal. -
July 04, 2009, 01:02:35 am
i like +1 -
July 04, 2009, 09:29:49 am
If you drop a heatsink, you give up 40 dps but can switch over to a T2 Damage control. it also frees up enough CPU to replace the invunerability field with another large shield extender, and enables you to fit a T2 microwarp. You can then lower cost and increase effective hp by switching the shield extender rig with another resistance one. And you can still get a T2 tracking enhancer in what was the heatsink slot. Actually i found a couple other ways you could make the build more efficient, but it was only marginal.
My current setup is:
[Harbinger, shield]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Power Diagnostic System II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M
Small Nosferatu II
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
and its mostly personal, I really like fitting a point on my ships. And the CDFE gets better ehp than another anti-em (what I had at first). I also prefer y-t8 over t2. -
July 07, 2009, 02:04:12 pm
any other comments or opinions on the evil dps harbinger? -
July 11, 2009, 05:42:59 pm
Updated: haha was very sleepy when i did this.
I have a harb set up that is 760 Dps (with 2 heat sinks) and its reasonably tanked (41k eHP) with just the standard armor and a rep. U can dump the rep for a plate and has a spare rig if u wanted it properly tanked.
Also has one high slot free.
Sorry, unless i'm missing the point, but thumb down for me.
reasons:
4 heat sinks is too heavily penalised.
small nos, get a medium....
Not to cost efficient, if u want that sort of dam, get a BS. a fitted arma is about the same price.
A ship with a disrupter will kill the ONLY thing this build can do. (e.i no rep, no serious tank)
Over all, interesting, but theres usually a reason y people armor tank ships with lots of low slots. Leave the shielding to the drake. -
July 11, 2009, 05:53:02 pm
reasons:
the 4th heat sink gives 40 dps.. not bad.
4 heat sinks is to heavily penalised.Quote from: Zoladexsmall nos, get a medium....
try to.Quote from: ZoladexNot to cost effience, if u want that sort of dam, get a BS. a fitted arma is about the same price.
Quote from: crunchbite36This is meant mainly for gangs since we tend to go out with scimis a lot, and it seemed fun.
Quote from: ZoladexA ship with a disrupter will kill the ONLY think this build can do.
what? -
July 11, 2009, 05:58:32 pm
Switch a heat sink for a nano and change the dcu to t2. -
July 11, 2009, 10:18:00 pm
Switch a heat sink for a nano and change the dcu to t2.
learn2read -
July 12, 2009, 07:21:15 am
updated my thing above. -
July 12, 2009, 01:56:12 pm
Updated: haha was very sleepy when i did this.
I'm sorry this hasn't been made clear enough yet:
I have a harb set up that is 760 Dps (with 2 heat sinks) and its reasonably tanked (41k eHP) with just the standard armor and a rep. U can dump the rep for a plate and has a spare rig if u wanted it properly tanked.
Also has one high slot free.
THIS IS FOR SHIELD GANGS -
July 12, 2009, 04:15:54 pm
I read the entire thread, my statement still stands. More ehp and maneuverability > 40 dps.Switch a heat sink for a nano and change the dcu to t2.
learn2read -
July 12, 2009, 04:42:50 pm
You can do that if you want, i prefer the heat sink. however more ehp from a nano..?
I read the entire thread, my statement still stands. More ehp and maneuverability > 40 dps.Switch a heat sink for a nano and change the dcu to t2.
learn2read -
July 12, 2009, 05:06:53 pm
More ehp from t2 dcu. The nano might cancel it out though I guess.
You can do that if you want, i prefer the heat sink. however more ehp from a nano..?
I read the entire thread, my statement still stands. More ehp and maneuverability > 40 dps.Switch a heat sink for a nano and change the dcu to t2.
learn2read
Edit: giant pyramid quote ftw. -
July 12, 2009, 05:08:41 pm
then if thats the case, why are u using a harb lol.
True as a shield fitted harb it may be good, but both shield drake and armor harb are better. -
July 12, 2009, 05:17:45 pm
then if thats the case, why are u using a harb lol.
No. Drake is slightly better as a brawler true, but harb is the best gank bc bar none.
True as a shield fitted harb it may be good, but both shield drake and armor harb are better. -
July 12, 2009, 05:48:11 pm
then if thats the case, why are u using a harb lol.
Hi,
THIS FIT IS FOR SHIELD GANGS
oh also I dont have perfect caldari skills so I cant really use a drake well. -
July 21, 2009, 12:14:08 am
i liked your fit even tho it has problems.. I built a solo pve lvl 3 / lvl4 support ship fit around it. This fit might be better if your not playing tackler in a slow to lock BC in that fleet of yours.
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Module Stacking Penalty's
1 Item - 100%
2 Items - 86.9%
3 Items - 57.1%
4 Items - 28.3%
5 Items - 10.6%
6 Items - 0.6%
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My fit your:
dropping a damage mod that is only 28% effective with a tracking enhancer. Small DPS drop but slight range and DPS increase for fast movers like AF, Hacs, Inties. Also a DCU II upgrade for more resists witch brings up the EHP.
dropping the point and MWD for a AB (anti-scram) and a second Invul II. EHP goes up quite a bit. Dropping a MWD might be difficult in 0.0, but your still moving over 400ms with enough tank that if your not webbed your going to get through a bubble even if your taking fire.
All these changes free up resources to upgrade to a Medium Nos II
These changes also make for a cheaper fully T2 Fit.. only real loss is going to be the shield extender rig. It isn't as necessary with the extra resist from the t2 DCU and the second Invun as it only adds about 3k EHP but that's up to the pilot.
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Co-Processor II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Heavy Pulse Laser II
Medium Nosferatu II
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Core Defense Field Extender I
Hammerhead II
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July 21, 2009, 10:47:56 am
mwd always for anything above t1 cruisers. I prefer a point over a second invuln.
dropping the point and MWD for a AB (anti-scram) and a second Invul II. EHP goes up quite a bit. Dropping a MWD might be difficult in 0.0, but your still moving over 400ms with enough tank that if your not webbed your going to get through a bubble even if your taking fire.
