Loadout: Apocalypse: Midrange Strike
Apocalypse: Midrange Strike
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Ship fitting - Built on May 28, 2009
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As with most my setups this ship should run with a gang. Staying out around 60km, using the Micro Warp-drive to keep at optimal. This should put the ship beyond the range of most ships. Such as blaster boats, and even other pulse setups due to the apocalypses inherent range bonus. Targets should be locked down by the tacklers before this ship engages. Drones are used primarily to assist with anything small that gets into range. Damage: 584/2532 @ 62km using Scorch L Damage Resists: 73.4%/65.5%/60.2%/57.5% Effective Hitpoints: 95,035 Armor Hitpoints: 22,243 Capacitor: 2m 13s ( Stable @ 64% Without MWD Using 200's ) Speed: 104m/s ( 753m/s With MWD ) Changed: Dropped ECCM to Meta 4. Swapped Faction EANM for Tech II. Possible Change: Removal of Trimarks. Possible Change: Swapping a Heat Sink for Tracking Enhancer. Possible Change: Swapping a Trimark for Energy Locus Coordinator. Possible Change: Swapping ANP II for Faction or Deadspace. Possible Change: Swapping EANM II for Faction or Deadspace. These changes were suggested by member posts, I added them for ease of browsing. Comments and Criticism welcome. Don't forget to vote! |
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May 28, 2009, 04:25:52 am
+1 from your secret admirer :p -
May 28, 2009, 04:28:35 am
+1 from your secret admirer :p
Why thank you my secret love.
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May 28, 2009, 04:32:34 am
nice fit
, i find it funny that amar uses cap charges as replaceable of ammo, cus i fly mimatar and don't need cap that badly and auto canons eat ammo like its candy. -
May 28, 2009, 04:34:17 am
i find it funny that amar uses cap charges as replaceable of ammo.
So very true, guess we all need to expend something eh? -
May 28, 2009, 04:38:09 am
Im trying to understand the fit so have a query:
Why is there a T2 Adaptive Nano Plating on there? -
May 28, 2009, 04:40:16 am
Im trying to understand the fit so have a query:
Why is there a T2 Adaptive Nano Plating on there?
Cpu is tight on this fitting, I would have liked to fit another eanm but even when dropping the mids for best named you still can't do it. And I don't use CPU implants. -
May 28, 2009, 05:01:54 am
+1 from your secret admirer :p
Why thank you my secret love.
Cya in IAC :p -
May 28, 2009, 05:05:02 am
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May 28, 2009, 05:19:30 am
Cya in IAC :p
IAC for the win.
Only a matter of time we control Delve. -
May 28, 2009, 07:22:33 am
Keep the comments coming. I know Apocs usually snipe, but I think this is a good idea too. -
May 29, 2009, 05:12:03 am
Get a faction Adaptive Nano Plating instead of the T2 one. They're pretty cheap. -
May 29, 2009, 06:58:32 am
I really like the idea. But, this is a BS with armor plate and 3 trimarks = extremely slow and agile as tank...staying at range must be a difficult task....I assume that you will warp at 60km from your targets but......if you wanna snipe...why not have a sniping Apoc and stay at even greater range?
I'm not trolling just wondering the ins and outs of your fit :-) -
May 29, 2009, 07:19:26 am
I really like the idea. But, this is a BS with armor plate and 3 trimarks = extremely slow and agile as tank...staying at range must be a difficult task....I assume that you will warp at 60km from your targets but......if you wanna snipe...why not have a sniping Apoc and stay at even greater range?
I'm not trolling just wondering the ins and outs of your fit :-)
Targets should be locked down before this ship emerges onto the field. Tacklers and gang members are going to be up close engaging, while this sits out of range of the target. Now as far as sniping goes, you're not going to get as much damage as you would with this setup. It's simply another tactic to try.
As for the faction Adaptive Plating, it's always an option. I try not to include faction items on my builds because I feel they are the pilots choice. This needed it due to very tight cpu fitting. Plus for the increase I felt it's worth it to include one.
Thanks for the comments and thumbs up, any more questions feel free to ask. -
May 29, 2009, 07:53:48 am
I believe this loadout to be better without trimark, overall solid concept though. -
May 29, 2009, 07:58:32 am
I believe this loadout to be better without trimark, overall solid concept though.
Thanks, I like them because they add a bit of cushion just in case. You never know what's going to happen in battle. They can be dropped or swapped based on personal preference. -
May 29, 2009, 08:17:49 am
I really like the idea. But, this is a BS with armor plate and 3 trimarks = extremely slow and agile as tank...staying at range must be a difficult task....I assume that you will warp at 60km from your targets but......if you wanna snipe...why not have a sniping Apoc and stay at even greater range?
I'm not trolling just wondering the ins and outs of your fit :-)
Targets should be locked down before this ship emerges onto the field. Tacklers and gang members are going to be up close engaging, while this sits out of range of the target. Now as far as sniping goes, you're not going to get as much damage as you would with this setup. It's simply another tactic to try.
As for the faction Adaptive Plating, it's always an option. I try not to include faction items on my builds because I feel they are the pilots choice. This needed it due to very tight cpu fitting. Plus for the increase I felt it's worth it to include one.
Thanks for the comments and thumbs up, any more questions feel free to ask.
Hum.......if your targets are locked down and your other gangmates on it, what's the point to fly so far away with a BS? I know to avoid damages from other ships but wouldn't you be more useful closer dealing more DPS? -
May 29, 2009, 08:30:37 am
you're very safe from close range battleships out at 60km, at point blank it wo uld be a who has the best close range BS fight instead of a can they kill the frigates before you kill them? -
May 29, 2009, 08:33:29 am
Hum.......if your targets are locked down and your other gangmates on it, what's the point to fly so far away with a BS? I know to avoid damages from other ships but wouldn't you be more useful closer dealing more DPS?
Always an option, but this ship has the range bonus so I set it up to take advantage of it. Getting in close and blasting locked down targets is fun and all, but for that I think the Abaddon or Armageddon would be better choices.
I'm not saying this is perfect, or the best Idea. Just something I thought up. It's not going to appeal to everyone I suppose. I just like the idea of dealing a good amount of damage from a range out of reach to most ships. -
May 29, 2009, 08:59:37 am
Oh well you convinced me +1 :-) I love fits that are out of the box! -
May 29, 2009, 10:57:45 am
you're very safe from close range battleships out at 60km, at point blank it wo uld be a who has the best close range BS fight instead of a can they kill the frigates before you kill them?
Becomes a case of can they break point before we melt through their tank.
Oh well you convinced me +1 :-) I love fits that are out of the box!
Thanks, It's not much of a stretch but I'm happy with how it works. -
May 29, 2009, 12:13:17 pm
Ive been told from a friend that this is a good solid setup so +1 from me and my friend Tedshred , he fly's a mega so haha
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May 29, 2009, 12:22:12 pm
Ive been told from a friend that this is a good solid setup so +1 from me and my friend Tedshred , he fly's a mega so haha
Glad to see even a mega pilot can understand what I was going for. -
May 29, 2009, 06:39:29 pm
Hey I fly the Mega too! lol -
May 29, 2009, 09:59:06 pm
Replace 1 Trimark with a Energy Locus Coordinator and 1 heat sink with a tracking Enhancer II and the range will move out to 80km increasing you survival chances.
Effective HP drops down to 86,942
DPS: 520/2396
But overall still a nasty surprise +1 -
June 06, 2009, 01:56:25 pm
Hey I fly the Mega too! lol
Hehe just messing around. But It's nice to see other pilots get the point.Replace 1 Trimark with a Energy Locus Coordinator and 1 heat sink with a tracking Enhancer II and the range will move out to 80km increasing you survival chances.
Effective HP drops down to 86,942
DPS: 520/2396
But overall still a nasty surprise +1
I added a list of possible changes in the OP for ease of browsing. I'll keep it updated as more members post comments or possible changes. -
June 06, 2009, 03:19:39 pm
Ahh, the good 'ole apoc pulse sniper...
Fairly sure one of the highest rated apocs on BC is somewhat similar to this, though with a bit more range.
It's definately a solid setup... -
June 06, 2009, 06:34:51 pm
Ahh, the good 'ole apoc pulse sniper...
Fairly sure one of the highest rated apocs on BC is somewhat similar to this, though with a bit more range.
It's definately a solid setup...
Yea I'm happy with it. I never noticed another fitting running this setup. I'll take a look and see what you're referring to. As for mine, I decided that the inherent range of pulses using scorch would be well beyond most pvp ships optimals. However some will be able to reach, that's why I fitted the plate, resists, and trimarks. Just to give me some extra hp to soak up the damage.
As to the ship you were referencing mine puts out more damage, has better resists, and overall hp. Though that ship can lock faster and hit from farther out. I happen to like being a bit closer and doing more damage.
Just saying.
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June 08, 2009, 02:46:33 pm
Bump.
Anyone got anymore advice or ideas on how to improve this for mid-range combat? -
June 08, 2009, 05:36:59 pm
Bump.
Anyone got anymore advice or ideas on how to improve this for mid-range combat?
Just admit that by bumping your thread you wanted moar thumbs up lol...I do the same! :-) -
June 08, 2009, 05:41:52 pm
honestly though, this has got to be one of the few good pvp apoc fits out there. i would give moar thumbs up if i could -
June 08, 2009, 05:44:39 pm
honestly though, this has got to be one of the few good pvp apoc fits out there. i would give moar thumbs up if i could
Thanks, and yes I do want more thumbs. -
June 08, 2009, 06:43:27 pm
Since you have a AN Eanm on there, you may as well shell out for one of those C-type Adaptive platings, pretty cheap. -
June 08, 2009, 06:51:00 pm
Since you have a AN Eanm on there, you may as well shell out for one of those C-type Adaptive platings, pretty cheap.
Good idea, I only used the AN due to CPU restraints. However they are quite cheap compared to the overall cost of this fitting. Will add option to Opening Post. -
June 08, 2009, 07:16:31 pm
You're better off cutting cpu on the mids and the damage control. Keep it cheap. -
June 08, 2009, 08:21:55 pm
You're better off cutting cpu on the mids and the damage control. Keep it cheap.
Added to opening, by dropping the ECCM II to best named you can fit a EANM II instead of the faction one, however it costs you around 2k ehp. However the cost is dropped sharply. -
June 12, 2009, 12:47:23 pm
Good fitting, and glad it's being ranked high. My Apocalypse is doing well too, Just need people to vote on it. Seems like we all have that issue eh?
+1 from me! -
June 12, 2009, 01:02:49 pm
Good fitting, and glad it's being ranked high. My Apocalypse is doing well too, Just need people to vote on it. Seems like we all have that issue eh?
+1 from me!
Hehe thank you! This is my favorite personal loadout. I hope it hits the top ranks one day.
I swapped the ECCM II to Meta 4, and Amarr Navy EANM to Tech II. Lowering cost sharply, though with only a small drawback. Less ISK spent is less ISK lost if something goes wrong. -
June 18, 2009, 12:48:12 pm
nice fit -
June 18, 2009, 03:03:27 pm
nice fit
Thanks. Slowly climbing the rating ladder.
