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• Wicked-Prayer

  May 12, 2009, 08:16:34 am

  
  

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  Also, this is the first ship fitting ive posted since Apocrypha came out, can someone please tell me how to add Drones and Ammo?
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 12, 2009, 10:25:04 am

  
  

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  Look its the  troll
  Get a life man 
• Raelyf

  May 12, 2009, 10:49:59 am

  
  

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  Ditch the AB for an MWD. This thing is absolute glass - load barrage and keep out of web range. It won't hurt your dps much, and it'll mitigate alot of the incoming damage.
  
  If you do that, since your out of web range, I'd consider swapping the web for a LSE. You could keep the web for frigates who catch you - but I'd rather have 'some' tank.
  
  If you want to fly this solo, I'd plate it - fit guns, neuts and dual webs and go molest frigates and assault frigs. They'll get a nasty surprise.
  Speaking of that last bit - I think I'll buy myself a bellicose.
  
  
  
  
• Mark Interiis

  May 12, 2009, 10:53:58 am

  
  

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  I'd use an armor tank and medium speed rather than trying to attain high speed. Good to see people are still thinking outside the box regarding what they fly and how they fly it.
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 12, 2009, 01:22:43 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Raelyf on May 12, 2009, 10:49:59 am

  Speaking of that last bit - I think I'll buy myself a bellicose.
  

  
  
  good to hear
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 12, 2009, 01:47:46 pm

  
  

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  Reconfigured setup, dropped the lauchers for small neuts and the guns from 220mm vulcan IIs to dual 180mm auto IIs.
  Ive swapped the AB for an MWD and he sensor booster for another web.
  The overdrive II is now a 800mm rrt plate, and the nanofiber internal structure II is now a EANM II
• Mark Interiis

  May 12, 2009, 02:52:19 pm

  
  

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  very solid loadout, gonna have trouble running head to head with a rupture still but meh
• Lopan_MacTavish

  May 12, 2009, 06:29:16 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Mark Interiis on May 12, 2009, 02:52:19 pm

  very solid loadout, gonna have trouble running head to head with a rupture still but meh
  

  
  Agreed. This fit, or ship for that matter, will have trouble with any other high tier cruiser regardless.
  
  That said, this reminds me of the exquror fit that was posted not too long ago that looked to be incredibly effective at hunting frigs of all types.
  
  If you're flying this in a cruiser gang I suggest replacing the second web with a TP.
  
   
• waruiushiro

  May 12, 2009, 07:03:33 pm

  
  

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  it's a frig killer, you're gonna be in super close.  people seem to be talking about cruiser killing when the title says frig killer? 
  so skip barrage, your tracking goes to crap and rely on the neuts to make the frig literally powerless.
  
  i like this fit a lot, dual web and dual neut is pure win.  just don't use hammerheads they don't track frigs very well at all... valks all the way.
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 13, 2009, 10:13:17 am

  
  

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  thanks for the feedback guys, i have managed to get some kills with it , including an over confident ceptor, ive yet to use this in a gang, as i prefer using a rupture for heavy dps, but i will update as i use it.
  
  is there anything else to make this a frigates nightmare?
  
  Is it worth me getting faction webs so i can kite them outside of their web range?
• Lightowler

  May 13, 2009, 10:20:30 am

  
  

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  personaly i wouldnt go for faction webs because this ship, although looks very fun to fly, id asume will die alot, i would fly it like a giant rifter tbh and try and bait ranis by "afk'n" at a station and waiting for them to come into scram range, hold em still and well im shur you know the rest sine you fly the damn thing
  
  but yeah since u will be fighting with in web range republic emp would be nice for the tracking + extra damage
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 13, 2009, 10:28:02 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Lightowler on May 13, 2009, 10:20:30 am

  but yeah since u will be fighting with in web range republic emp would be nice for the tracking + extra damage
  

  
  thanks or that tip, ill buy a few k of it
• Raelyf

  May 13, 2009, 10:43:40 am

  
  

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  Definately RF EMP, don't even try hail against frigates. I like to carry RF plasma and fusion as well, but I don't use it that often. I'd carry some barrage for sure though - you may never use it, but against a Thorax or Vexor the ability to hold him at 9.5km and still do nearly full damage may get you through the fight, just kill their drones first (vexor may kill you anyway..)
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 13, 2009, 10:53:25 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Raelyf on May 13, 2009, 10:43:40 am

  Definately RF EMP, don't even try hail against frigates. I like to carry RF plasma and fusion as well, but I don't use it that often. I'd carry some barrage for sure though - you may never use it, but against a Thorax or Vexor the ability to hold him at 9.5km and still do nearly full damage may get you through the fight, just kill their drones first (vexor may kill you anyway..)
  

  
  
  Thats a 24km point, why not kite him while killing his drones to keep out of gun/neut range and focus on him after?
• Mark Interiis

  May 13, 2009, 11:25:14 am

  
  

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  A vexor will tear through this regardless of range
• waruiushiro

  May 13, 2009, 11:30:35 am

  
  

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  I dunno if you'd be able to kill the drones on a vexor before you went down... there's so many, they have high HP, and even hobgoblins would cut through your 15k EHP pretty fast so stay clear.
  
  and I kinda think a scram might suit this ship better...
• Raelyf

  May 13, 2009, 12:58:09 pm

  
  

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  Yeah I should have made that clearer - the vexor will kill you anyway if he's any good.
  
  A warp scrambler might be a good choice - but against another cruiser it's going to force you in a bit closer. Against a frigate, if he's got two webs on him, activating his MWD and exploding his sig radius isn't going to help him in the least. It'll make it that much harder to get initial tackles.
  
  About keeping out of web range in the beginning: Against another cruiser, sure you can try - but it'll likely catch you regardless - though once your webs are on you should have range control within 10km. Against frigates, just burn right in and throw the webs, so it's moot.
  
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 14, 2009, 01:14:38 am

  
  

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  Thanks for the input over this new fitting guys, would my other fitting be better?
  
  Drop the plate for a 400mm, which will let you get a medium neut on, and an MWD,
  Or if you keep the afterburner you can fit a rack of 220mm Autocannons, so your damage increases a bit, and youll murder a frigates cap in 2-3 cycles, then you can keep the small neut on to keep it dead, any ideas on that?
• Slugger McPhee

  May 14, 2009, 02:08:48 am

  
  

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  Thumbs up, I like my Belli and I like your thinking with this. I lost one recently which was knd of aimed at being an EWAR fit, but the pleasing thing was that it took over 10k damage before it popped. Checking the killboards, there are "better" cruisers that pop with much less.
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 14, 2009, 02:23:43 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Slugger McPhee on May 14, 2009, 02:08:48 am

  Checking the killboards, there are "better" cruisers that pop with much less.
  

  
  i see your point my friend, i happily think that this fitting could kill a caracal or moa, but generally i dont like caldari for pvp despite being caldari.
  
  I might load up on some RF EMP/Hail and take some cruisers on, however im staying away from: Vexors, thoraxs and ruptures.
• Raelyf

  May 14, 2009, 08:41:53 am

  
  

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  I would take a shot at a thorax without doubt if I could get a 1v1. It's not certain - but I'm cheeky that way.
• Lightowler

  May 20, 2009, 03:41:45 pm

  
  

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  id wach it 1v1n a thorax, soon as his ecm drones get a jam in (that they will due to lol minmar sensor strength) hell be at 0km melting your face
• Wicked-Prayer

  May 26, 2009, 07:45:27 am

  
  

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  Quote from: Lightowler on May 20, 2009, 03:41:45 pm

  (that they will due to lol minmar sensor strength) hell be at 0km melting your face
  

  
  Some amarr ships have worse scan strength than mintar, but i use this for killing frigates, if i want to kill a cruiser ill use a rupture.
  
  And yaaay looks like the  has struck yet again.
• dcgregorya

  November 10, 2009, 12:37:48 am

  
  

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  Change the mwd to a normal t1. Otherwise solid fit. Thumbs up.
• Slappy

  November 16, 2009, 04:34:13 pm

  
  

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  Quote from: Mark Interiis on May 13, 2009, 11:25:14 am

  A vexor will tear through this regardless of range
  

  
  This is true, but that is simply scissors vs paper.
  
  Bellicose is a good cruiser, especially for the antifrig job along with fitting proposal.
  So this gets +1 from me.
  
  Personally, I'd drop one of the webs for another medslot toy. Painter for instance. Or a battery, but as you said, things might be tight on cpu/powergrid.