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Wicked-Prayer
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Also, this is the first ship fitting ive posted since Apocrypha came out, can someone please tell me how to add Drones and Ammo?
Wicked-Prayer
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Look its the  :thumbsdown: troll
Get a life man  :banghead:
Raelyf
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Ditch the AB for an MWD. This thing is absolute glass - load barrage and keep out of web range. It won't hurt your dps much, and it'll mitigate alot of the incoming damage.

If you do that, since your out of web range, I'd consider swapping the web for a LSE. You could keep the web for frigates who catch you - but I'd rather have 'some' tank.

If you want to fly this solo, I'd plate it - fit guns, neuts and dual webs and go molest frigates and assault frigs. They'll get a nasty surprise.
Speaking of that last bit - I think I'll buy myself a bellicose.



Mark Interiis
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I'd use an armor tank and medium speed rather than trying to attain high speed. Good to see people are still thinking outside the box regarding what they fly and how they fly it.
Wicked-Prayer
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Speaking of that last bit - I think I'll buy myself a bellicose.


good to hear
Wicked-Prayer
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Reconfigured setup, dropped the lauchers for small neuts and the guns from 220mm vulcan IIs to dual 180mm auto IIs.
Ive swapped the AB for an MWD and he sensor booster for another web.
The overdrive II is now a 800mm rrt plate, and the nanofiber internal structure II is now a EANM II
Mark Interiis
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very solid loadout, gonna have trouble running head to head with a rupture still but meh
Lopan_MacTavish
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very solid loadout, gonna have trouble running head to head with a rupture still but meh

Agreed. This fit, or ship for that matter, will have trouble with any other high tier cruiser regardless.

That said, this reminds me of the exquror fit that was posted not too long ago that looked to be incredibly effective at hunting frigs of all types.

If you're flying this in a cruiser gang I suggest replacing the second web with a TP.

 :thumbsup:
waruiushiro
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it's a frig killer, you're gonna be in super close.  people seem to be talking about cruiser killing when the title says frig killer? 
so skip barrage, your tracking goes to crap and rely on the neuts to make the frig literally powerless.

i like this fit a lot, dual web and dual neut is pure win.  just don't use hammerheads they don't track frigs very well at all... valks all the way.
Wicked-Prayer
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thanks for the feedback guys, i have managed to get some kills with it , including an over confident ceptor, ive yet to use this in a gang, as i prefer using a rupture for heavy dps, but i will update as i use it.

is there anything else to make this a frigates nightmare?

Is it worth me getting faction webs so i can kite them outside of their web range?
Lightowler
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personaly i wouldnt go for faction webs because this ship, although looks very fun to fly, id asume will die alot, i would fly it like a giant rifter tbh and try and bait ranis by "afk'n" at a station and waiting for them to come into scram range, hold em still and well im shur you know the rest sine you fly the damn thing

but yeah since u will be fighting with in web range republic emp would be nice for the tracking + extra damage
Wicked-Prayer
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but yeah since u will be fighting with in web range republic emp would be nice for the tracking + extra damage

thanks or that tip, ill buy a few k of it
Raelyf
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Definately RF EMP, don't even try hail against frigates. I like to carry RF plasma and fusion as well, but I don't use it that often. I'd carry some barrage for sure though - you may never use it, but against a Thorax or Vexor the ability to hold him at 9.5km and still do nearly full damage may get you through the fight, just kill their drones first (vexor may kill you anyway..)
Wicked-Prayer
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Definately RF EMP, don't even try hail against frigates. I like to carry RF plasma and fusion as well, but I don't use it that often. I'd carry some barrage for sure though - you may never use it, but against a Thorax or Vexor the ability to hold him at 9.5km and still do nearly full damage may get you through the fight, just kill their drones first (vexor may kill you anyway..)


Thats a 24km point, why not kite him while killing his drones to keep out of gun/neut range and focus on him after?
Mark Interiis
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A vexor will tear through this regardless of range
waruiushiro
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I dunno if you'd be able to kill the drones on a vexor before you went down... there's so many, they have high HP, and even hobgoblins would cut through your 15k EHP pretty fast so stay clear.

and I kinda think a scram might suit this ship better...
Raelyf
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Yeah I should have made that clearer - the vexor will kill you anyway if he's any good.

A warp scrambler might be a good choice - but against another cruiser it's going to force you in a bit closer. Against a frigate, if he's got two webs on him, activating his MWD and exploding his sig radius isn't going to help him in the least. It'll make it that much harder to get initial tackles.

About keeping out of web range in the beginning: Against another cruiser, sure you can try - but it'll likely catch you regardless - though once your webs are on you should have range control within 10km. Against frigates, just burn right in and throw the webs, so it's moot.
Wicked-Prayer
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Thanks for the input over this new fitting guys, would my other fitting be better?

Drop the plate for a 400mm, which will let you get a medium neut on, and an MWD,
Or if you keep the afterburner you can fit a rack of 220mm Autocannons, so your damage increases a bit, and youll murder a frigates cap in 2-3 cycles, then you can keep the small neut on to keep it dead, any ideas on that?
Slugger McPhee
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Thumbs up, I like my Belli and I like your thinking with this. I lost one recently which was knd of aimed at being an EWAR fit, but the pleasing thing was that it took over 10k damage before it popped. Checking the killboards, there are "better" cruisers that pop with much less.
Wicked-Prayer
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Checking the killboards, there are "better" cruisers that pop with much less.

i see your point my friend, i happily think that this fitting could kill a caracal or moa, but generally i dont like caldari for pvp despite being caldari.

I might load up on some RF EMP/Hail and take some cruisers on, however im staying away from: Vexors, thoraxs and ruptures.
Raelyf
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I would take a shot at a thorax without doubt if I could get a 1v1. It's not certain - but I'm cheeky that way.
Lightowler
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id wach it 1v1n a thorax, soon as his ecm drones get a jam in (that they will due to lol minmar sensor strength) hell be at 0km melting your face
Wicked-Prayer
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(that they will due to lol minmar sensor strength) hell be at 0km melting your face

Some amarr ships have worse scan strength than mintar, but i use this for killing frigates, if i want to kill a cruiser ill use a rupture.

And yaaay looks like the  :thumbsdown: has struck yet again.
dcgregorya
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Change the mwd to a normal t1. Otherwise solid fit. Thumbs up.
Slappy
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A vexor will tear through this regardless of range

This is true, but that is simply scissors vs paper.

Bellicose is a good cruiser, especially for the antifrig job along with fitting proposal.
So this gets +1 from me.

Personally, I'd drop one of the webs for another medslot toy. Painter for instance. Or a battery, but as you said, things might be tight on cpu/powergrid.

Bellicose, updated frigate killer

Wicked-Prayer's Bellicose built 2009-05-12

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I know the rupture and the stabber are better, ive flown them and i thought id try this. The so called "crap" cruisers, like the baiting mining osprey which my corpies have killed cruisers with.

Following some advice, ive changed this fitting to be an anti frigate setup. with barrage M in the autocannons and 3 hammerhead IIs and 2 hobgloblin drones, this will touch 210 DPS with my skills (all gunnery to 4 and minmatar cruiser 4)

Regarding the neuts, this is an extremely tight fit with the 800mm plate so i can only fit 2 smalls. However, if you drop the plagte to a 400mm RRT you can fit a medium and small neut, but your cap will suffer.

With the MWD and the 800mm plate, this will hit 1510 m/s with my mediocre skills in navigation, can be more with accelaration control IV and a t2 MWD.

If you go with the 400mm plate setup, my skills get 1592 m/s but theyll be higher with better skills.

I have tested this in my nightly pvp run and it annihilates frigs, and if someone crashes your party you can get away.

Targeting

Maximum targets 7
Maximum targeting range 53.125 km
Scan resolution 375
Sensor strength 0 14 0 0

Size/Movement

Maximum velocity 701.56
Inertia modifier 0.34425
Signature radius 120 m
Cargo capacity 315 m3

Systems

Capacitor capacity 1500 GJ
Capacitor recharge time 5 minutes 20 seconds
Powergrid 510.6 / 718.75MW
CPU 262.75 / 450 tf

Shields

Shield capacity 1750
Shield recharge time 15 minutes 37 seconds
Shield resistances 12.5% 56.25% 47.5% 30%

Armor

Armor hit points 4125
Armor resistances 74.5% 42.63% 52.19% 58.56%

Structure

Structure hit points 1875
Structure resistances 60% 60% 60% 60%
Drone bandwidth 40 Mbit/sec
Drone control range 0 m

Drones

Drone capacity 40 m3
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[Bellicose, Bellicose updated frigate killer]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Empty

Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
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Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
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Item Quantity Value
Bellicose 1 9,000,000
#System 3 0
Damage Control II 1 467,386
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II 3 1,097,910
Warp Disruptor II 1 1,200,000
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator 2 157,106
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I 1 1,750
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1 639,000
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1 315,008
Small Energy Neutralizer II 2 1,200,000
Total 17,631,086
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