Loadout: Armageddon: 85M Solo Geddon
Armageddon: 85M Solo Geddon
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Ship fitting - Built on May 8, 2009
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EDIT: I decided to go with the second EANM II....I find it to survive longer :-)
The DPS is actually of 809 with 4 Ogre I. 602 for turrets only with Large Energy to level 4. ******************************************************************* Hello! I'm not gonna say I have a revolutionary fit for the Geddon and I am more a Gallente pilote myself. But, this fit is slightly different from what I have seen so far on the top-rated loadouts. The philosophy behind it comes from the fact that even tho I love small/medium size T2 ships (especially HACs), they cost a lot of money and the insurance payout is not great. So I had a look at BCs, and like the Myrmidon or the Hurricane, with a good fit, the cost can be up to 100+ million. So, then again, I thought that was a bit expensive for a BC. And then I remembered the Armageddon. My goal with that fit is to have a ship with which you will not loose too much money if you get blown up (thanks to the insurance payout) and that is easy to fit and to fly. Bottom line: to have lots of EHP, don\'t pay too much and have fun. Stats: Price = 85 million ish EHP: 84,236 Armor HP: 18,801 DPS: 752 with 4 x Ogre I (just 4 because I like to have 5 x small ones for fast ships). The DPS is not insane, I know, but it\'s also a ship for lowskilled pilots. I only have Large Energy Turret 4, and Amarr BS 4 (But I do have good other gunnery skills). I chose 3 x plates because I wanted to stay under the 100 million. With 2 plates and 3 trimarks for the SAME armor HP was 130+ million for the fit. With 3 plates, a bit less resists, and 2 turret rigs, I have the same armor HP and a fit that costs 85 million (therefore, 45 million cheaper than the other one). Please don\'t put thumbs down because there are not enough DPS or because of the REP. The rep is here because I like to rep my damn ships because it certain cases, it lives longer. You can change the SB for a web or TP. Comments? Thanks for your time and sorry for the long long post lol. Aaspa. P.S. That fit has been largely inspired by Kil2\'s loss mails aha |
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Comments
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May 08, 2009, 08:53:51 am
either go active or buffer -
May 08, 2009, 08:57:16 am
either go active or buffer
Hello stogie how are you today my man?
Have you read my post? I'm not sure because you replied very fast (or you read very fast).
I'm not used to active tanks on Geddons for PVP. How would that work? Would it be cheaper and easier to use?
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May 08, 2009, 08:59:17 am
What's the rep doing there? Wouldnt another EANM be more beneficial?
I like it though. +1. -
May 08, 2009, 09:00:38 am
What's the rep doing there? Wouldnt another EANM be more beneficial?
I like it though. +1.
Don't make fun of me but I have a mental illness that prevents me from undocking without a rep or shield booster on any ship I fly....
oh and I am a part of a sec that believes in repping ships lol
Thanks for the thumbs up -
May 08, 2009, 09:05:18 am
Pretty similar to what I fly on my Geddons, but I trimark mine, and use moar plates and less reps:Code: [Select][Armageddon, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Brief Capacitor Overcharge I, Cap Booster 400
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Stable with the 400's, has 26k armour alone, with 138k ehp, and does 914 DPS with Ogre II's and amarr Multi's.
But on this fit, switch out the rep for another plate or an EANM and I'll +1 it.
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May 08, 2009, 09:11:29 am
I have to admit I like the price tag, and I dont mind repping my ships either. I am gonna give you a thumbs up. Keep up the good work
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May 08, 2009, 09:15:16 am
Pretty similar to what I fly on my Geddons, but I trimark mine, and use moar plates and less reps:
Code: [Select][Armageddon, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Heavy Brief Capacitor Overcharge I, Cap Booster 400
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Dual Heavy Modulated Pulse Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
Stable with the 400's, has 26k armour alone, with 138k ehp, and does 914 DPS with Ogre II's and amarr Multi's.
But on this fit, switch out the rep for another plate or an EANM and I'll +1 it.
Thanks for the loadout. As I said earlier I always have a rep on my ships, any of them. I don't like the idea of not being able to repair your ship even tho you have lots of armor HP, because if you engage several targets, I believe that the rep could save you the extra time that will allow you to fire so extra salves.
And economically wise, repping so many HP cost lost of money iamo :-)
I appreciate your comments tho -
May 08, 2009, 09:15:49 am
I have to admit I like the price tag, and I dont mind repping my ships either. I am gonna give you a thumbs up. Keep up the good work
Thanks Stevo :-) You got the philosophy that lays behind that fit :-) -
May 08, 2009, 09:19:57 am
i think it's a good fit. I love the use of damage rigs, they're my favourite. for a more spendy geddon do a t2 damage rig (ur choice) and 2 trimarks.
keep the lar -
May 08, 2009, 09:27:24 am
either go active or buffer
Hello stogie how are you today my man?
Have you read my post? I'm not sure because you replied very fast (or you read very fast).
I'm not used to active tanks on Geddons for PVP. How would that work? Would it be cheaper and easier to use?
your post was long and didnt have enough naked women innit -
May 08, 2009, 09:29:10 am
stogie, you're signature is long and has far too many ALL CAPS, and no nekkid women -
May 08, 2009, 09:36:01 am
Van I love you
(don't forget the thumbs up
) -
May 08, 2009, 11:58:47 am
The DPS is actually of 752 with AN Multifrequency L....didn't pick up the right crystals at first lol -
May 09, 2009, 01:25:29 pm
HEllo! I would like a bit more feedback on this please people :-) -
May 09, 2009, 01:29:42 pm
it needs t2 guns -
May 09, 2009, 02:40:17 pm
it needs t2 guns
Sure... because THAT doesn't ruin the whole 'cheap' option of the ship. -
May 09, 2009, 03:13:10 pm
it needs t2 guns
Sure... because THAT doesn't ruin the whole 'cheap' option of the ship.
I swear i keep hearing someone with your name say you need t2 guns for pvp
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May 09, 2009, 04:00:00 pm
only thing i miss is a mwd, but it looks like a good setup for an even better price -
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May 09, 2009, 10:47:41 pm
Thanks Pimmel.
And yes I want to keep it cheap! T2 cost increase the price of the setup by 10 million! dah! lol -
May 09, 2009, 11:41:45 pm
it needs t2 guns
Sure... because THAT doesn't ruin the whole 'cheap' option of the ship.
I swear i keep hearing someone with your name say you need t2 guns for pvp
Not me, I use T1 guns on all my fits bar frigs
But my alt char, now THAT's another matter entirely -
May 10, 2009, 04:21:45 pm
it needs t2 guns
Sure... because THAT doesn't ruin the whole 'cheap' option of the ship.
I swear i keep hearing someone with your name say you need t2 guns for pvp
Not me, I use T1 guns on all my fits bar frigs
But my alt char, now THAT's another matter entirely
You serious? Only T1 guns? Well I knew this guy that was fitting the best named blasters on his mega instead of T2 because he told me that these guns were doing better damages... -
May 10, 2009, 06:25:23 pm
stogie, you're signature is long and has far too many ALL CAPS, and no nekkid women
he has a point.
These forums in general need more nekkid wimens -
May 10, 2009, 07:09:54 pm
very nice, ive started cross-training to amarr and wasnt totally sure how to fit them for pvp (im used to not using cap to shoot my guns) so you saved me an EFT build-up
and the fact that the insurance will cover it is definitely a plus. -
May 10, 2009, 08:17:29 pm
Thanks Vilu!
The insurance will cover a big part of it...well the total cost is 100 million with the insurance and the payout is 66 million. The way i see it is that a BC what is normally fitted with rigs cost 100 millions....but the payout is much smaller so i think its a good deal to fly this ship for a total cost of 100 million and a payout of 60% rather than having a less powerful less resistance BC for the same price.... -
May 10, 2009, 08:38:28 pm
np.
gotcha. definitely beats coverage vs a HAC. insurance doesnt cover the spikes and new paint job on my vaga
ill miss speed tho, might be a good idea to drop the sebo for a web since this thing is so slow. -
May 11, 2009, 01:24:13 am
it needs t2 guns
Sure... because THAT doesn't ruin the whole 'cheap' option of the ship.
I swear i keep hearing someone with your name say you need t2 guns for pvp
Not me, I use T1 guns on all my fits bar frigs
But my alt char, now THAT's another matter entirely
You serious? Only T1 guns? Well I knew this guy that was fitting the best named blasters on his mega instead of T2 because he told me that these guns were doing better damages...
Eww, spaz... Nah, I only use T2 guns because I'm too lazy to go for T2 ones, even though I know they're much better
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May 11, 2009, 01:30:34 am
Aside from being slow moving, it's a good fitting. -
May 11, 2009, 03:37:25 am
Aside from being slow moving, it's a good fitting.
Aha yeah it's damn slow but you don't need speed with Amarr BS with the optimal of the pulses...like Caldari BS and the fall-off of blasters -
May 12, 2009, 01:36:36 am
ya, my theory with most amarr ships is that if you're doing the right things a mwd isn't needed.
less you're in a gangbang, but this aint that.
I would like to know what ships you're soloing in this tho Aaspa. most things (including bs) could get away from this pretty well.
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May 12, 2009, 01:56:14 am
tech 2 are not that expensive named will set you back more in most cases. but all this for 85 mil is pretty sweet. what does she insure for? -
May 12, 2009, 09:08:43 am
ya, my theory with most amarr ships is that if you're doing the right things a mwd isn't needed.
less you're in a gangbang, but this aint that.
I would like to know what ships you're soloing in this tho Aaspa. most things (including bs) could get away from this pretty well.
Hello Van...sorry for the late reply I just saw it :-)
Well actually I haven't flown this ship yet...just a loadout I've made before I fly it....to be able to solo ships smaller than BS it would be better to fit a web rather than the SB.
But it's true that in solo, a guy in a ship smaller wouldn't let me catch him on purpose cause this is still a BS and most people know how we fit them (with many plates and a neut). I mean I am antipirate, and it's less likely that a pirate would engage me in 1vs1 in anything smaller than a BS or without his 10 buddies hidden somewhere....
Good point Van. I suppose I should say it's more a gang fit or a solo for big ships :-)
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May 12, 2009, 09:11:14 am
tech 2 are not that expensive named will set you back more in most cases. but all this for 85 mil is pretty sweet. what does she insure for?
About the insurance, I have made some calculus. The total cost (fit + insurance) is around 100 for a payout of 66 ish million. So, the insurance payout does not cover everything but the way I see it, it's better than fitting a BC with rigs for the same total price and a smaller payout (because the rigs that people usually use on good rigged BC are very expensive).
This is the way I see it...tho....:-) -
May 12, 2009, 11:54:11 am
I mean I am antipirate, and it's less likely that a pirate would engage me in 1vs1 in anything smaller than a BS or without his 10 buddies hidden somewhere....
*gasp* are you suggesting that we haz no honor?
no... not 10 buddies. maybe one... -
May 12, 2009, 12:03:39 pm
I mean I am antipirate, and it's less likely that a pirate would engage me in 1vs1 in anything smaller than a BS or without his 10 buddies hidden somewhere....
*gasp* are you suggesting that we haz no honor?
no... not 10 buddies. maybe one...
Aha sure suuuuuureeeeee ^^ -
May 12, 2009, 12:22:34 pm
Just be wary of a ship that can exploit that nice big explosive gap (my phoon comes to mind
) -
May 12, 2009, 12:32:19 pm
it needs t2 guns
Sure... because THAT doesn't ruin the whole 'cheap' option of the ship.
I swear i keep hearing someone with your name say you need t2 guns for pvp
mate even if he said dont undock without t2 guns on a PvP ship it owuldnt matter the point of this loadout is to be cheap... t2 guns aint cheap.
and who ever was talking ab caldari blsters having fail falloff... well tbh it fits the caldari PvP attitude... FAILSAUCE -
May 12, 2009, 06:17:51 pm
lol jrt224........I'm glad some of you got the philosophy of the fit :-) -
May 13, 2009, 05:03:58 am
haha yea i fee lya making these fits to be cheap but effective is hard... im working on one for a gallente BS im trying to get it for the megathron or Hyperion... its hard and currently im at the point of
but im working on it ill post it once i get it to work haha -
May 13, 2009, 11:59:27 am
haha yea i fee lya making these fits to be cheap but effective is hard... im working on one for a gallente BS im trying to get it for the megathron or Hyperion... its hard and currently im at the point of
but im working on it ill post it once i get it to work haha
Well you will have to tell me how it looks because doing that for Gallente BS is a pain in the butt lol....I tried with the Domi and except fitting medium blasters, I don't really know how to fit it. The Mega? The cheapest I could get was 150 aha to do the same DPS amount as the Geddon (even with T2 guns!) -
May 13, 2009, 12:45:43 pm
actually thinking about it... you could probably neut a smaller ship so that they might not get the mwd going and then they'd get smoked trying to get away from your 28km point lol -
May 13, 2009, 12:46:45 pm
domi is the best cheap bs. plates, neuts = win -
May 14, 2009, 06:12:43 am
actually thinking about it... you could probably neut a smaller ship so that they might not get the mwd going and then they'd get smoked trying to get away from your 28km point lol
Van you are the man! Yeah this neut sucks 600 energy at the first hit aha -
May 14, 2009, 06:13:20 am
domi is the best cheap bs. plates, neuts = win
Would you mind to post a fit for a neut domi? -
May 14, 2009, 02:05:20 pm
i can do that.domi is the best cheap bs. plates, neuts = win
Would you mind to post a fit for a neut domi?
http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,46535.msg236855.html#msg236855 -
May 15, 2009, 06:51:10 pm
geddon is my personal favourite tier 1 battleship. I'm all about balzy dps ships. but a neut domi can do so much lol. my personal favourite battleship however.... is the Maelstrom.. prly Maelstrom, domi, geddon, tempest... I don't fly caldari and never intend to -
May 15, 2009, 08:24:09 pm
thats cause caldari is fail sauce.... and where do the mega/hype rank with you... i love the mega man... just damned expensive -
May 15, 2009, 09:18:41 pm
This is a tried and tested fit, for a throwaway bs is hard to get better.
Although for any kinda of solo or small gang(3 or less) i would always have a web, and for larger engagements a ECCM for ecm ship insta-popping glory, instead of the SeBo.
Personally i would never fly a plated bs without trimark rigs unless i knew it was a suicide op (in which case i probably wouldn't go xD ) but for a price/performance ratio ship you wont get a better fit. -
May 16, 2009, 12:11:25 am
i love this setup, nice cheap Armageddon setup. +1 -
May 16, 2009, 04:58:13 am
Grazie miele fellas ^^ -
June 02, 2009, 12:46:59 pm
Edited first post -
June 11, 2009, 12:22:34 pm
Edited the setup to fit a second EANM II instead of a third plate....survives longer cause has better resists -
June 12, 2009, 07:16:33 pm
ur a fisherman Aaspa -
June 13, 2009, 07:01:34 am
lol what do you mean? -
June 13, 2009, 09:17:07 am
lol what do you mean?
I'm guessing how you keep necro-ing your topics and fishing for new replies that you don't really need. -
June 13, 2009, 12:01:28 pm
I'm just trying to have this fit at the top so that people can see it easily :-) -
June 13, 2009, 12:10:59 pm
I'm just trying to have this fit at the top so that people can see it easily :-)
and there you got it back at the top. i would thumb it again if could, just to make you happy -
June 13, 2009, 01:21:23 pm
lol I mean among the top ratted fits...:-) -
June 13, 2009, 02:04:51 pm
As you are now number 5 you can stop bumping this thread. 6 pages of bump in the loadouts section might be enough to convince some people to use the other rating button. -
June 13, 2009, 03:36:00 pm
As you are now number 5 you can stop bumping this thread. 6 pages of bump in the loadouts section might be enough to convince some people to use the other rating button.
lol agreed
good setup tho -
June 13, 2009, 05:24:46 pm
Oh well mission accomplished and I'm glad that so many people ratted the fit. Off now :-) -
June 22, 2009, 07:58:38 am
Terribad fit. You're missing a whole lot of mwd - plus geddons are horrible ships anyways. -
June 22, 2009, 09:39:43 am
Terribad fit. You're missing a whole lot of mwd - plus geddons are horrible ships anyways.
I think you are terribadly wrong lol. You don't need a MWD with the range of the pulses and geddons rock, maybe you just dont' know how to fly them -
June 22, 2009, 11:29:55 am
Terribad fit. You're missing a whole lot of mwd - plus geddons are horrible ships anyways.
You just failed EVE. -
June 22, 2009, 11:36:27 am
lol -
June 22, 2009, 11:46:21 am
everyone check whiley's posts...
he thinks everything needs a mwd or it is a "failfit"
Whiley doesn't seem to post much other than that so take his comment with a grain of salt.
I like it Aaspa +1 from me -
June 22, 2009, 12:17:32 pm
Thanks mate! It's the first time I had the opportunity to read this dude lol... -
June 27, 2009, 10:16:23 am
armor plates + armor rep is not very good couple -
June 27, 2009, 10:45:15 am
armor plates + armor rep is not very good couple
Wrong! I tested this ship several times and it works, believe me. And for solo it's better than either dual LARs or only plate imao :-) -
June 30, 2009, 09:04:45 am
I think that what Admiralisimus was trying to get at was the fact that people usually go with armor rep + resistance hardeners or plates + resistance hardeners; though seemingly the setup you have does the job for not so much the bill -
June 30, 2009, 06:18:04 pm
Yes and that was my point lol -
July 01, 2009, 03:24:47 am
Estimated value: 85,159,103 ISK
Damn, he was telling the truth after all.
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July 01, 2009, 04:49:55 am
Estimated value: 85,159,103 ISK
Damn, he was telling the truth after all.
lol awesome -
July 01, 2009, 08:45:24 am
Aha yes I was!
A couple of days ago I saw a Deimos on Battleclinic, price was estimated at 800+ millions lol -
July 02, 2009, 11:27:21 am
Looks good considering the thought behind it my friend! Thumbs up!
What I need is a good sniper setup with at least a single DD buffer tank on the armor side tho and a 150Km Optimal at minimum... T2 if it can be made to fit... Can someone point me in the right direction please? -
July 02, 2009, 07:03:25 pm
Thanks Jaime....and I don't know where you can find what you are looking for sorry buddy -
July 02, 2009, 10:15:54 pm
sounds like you need a apoc jaime -
July 03, 2009, 11:24:37 am
yes Blood is right now that I think about it.....
I think Jamie you forgot your thumbs up :-) -
July 06, 2009, 12:10:36 pm
+1 -
July 06, 2009, 12:15:12 pm
Its good fit but if you use armor repair its better tu use Auxiliary Nano Pump I becouse you wil have more repairing points from armor repair sistem but you make wery good fit for armageddon for low cost of ISK and for low lvl skill player =) nice
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July 09, 2009, 02:29:51 am
LoL I think I saw one of these take on a Raven and a Dominix one after another in Dodixie! -
July 09, 2009, 07:00:54 am
LoL I think I saw one of these take on a Raven and a Dominix one after another in Dodixie!
Good new :-) -
July 10, 2009, 01:24:04 pm
Even though this fit looks good on paper, you haven't got a solo kill with it... -
July 10, 2009, 04:27:10 pm
Even though this fit looks good on paper, you haven't got a solo kill with it...
It's because I haven't had a fight in a long time and I'm broke right now :-) Someone said will get me one billion I hope it will happen soon lol -
July 10, 2009, 08:34:20 pm
You've been broke for the entire 2 months since you posted this? -
July 11, 2009, 04:46:42 am
You've been broke for the entire 2 months since you posted this?
Yes lol......!!!!! my position of CEO doesn't allow me to make lots of ISK :-) I can only afford BC for now lol..... -
July 11, 2009, 09:27:07 pm
Im new to battleships and this is exactly what i was looking for its cheap and effective +1 from me good job -
July 11, 2009, 09:47:51 pm
You've been broke for the entire 2 months since you posted this?
Wow -
July 12, 2009, 08:58:46 am
Im new to battleships and this is exactly what i was looking for its cheap and effective +1 from me good job
Aha thanks dude :-)
Yes I'm dead broken could barely buy this Geddon lol.... -
July 12, 2009, 11:19:43 am
your the CEO its a given right that you should have ships to fly just like your FCs use corp cash buy more BS and you only lose like 20 mil after insurance.You've been broke for the entire 2 months since you posted this?
Yes lol......!!!!! my position of CEO doesn't allow me to make lots of ISK :-) I can only afford BC for now lol..... -
July 12, 2009, 07:39:58 pm
your the CEO its a given right that you should have ships to fly just like your FCs use corp cash buy more BS and you only lose like 20 mil after insurance.You've been broke for the entire 2 months since you posted this?
Yes lol......!!!!! my position of CEO doesn't allow me to make lots of ISK :-) I can only afford BC for now lol.....
You know nothing about our corporation and how things happen. It's the crisis for God sake lol... -
July 14, 2009, 12:00:14 am
Nice fit to me... maybe cuz I also addicted to have a repair equipment on my ships ;P -
July 14, 2009, 04:54:44 am
Nice fit to me... maybe cuz I also addicted to have a repair equipment on my ships ;P
Welcome to the club :-) -
July 15, 2009, 06:55:07 pm
Personally i prefer a dual-repping active Geddon that has a cap that lasts 8 minutes which is long enough for almost any PvP engagement, but overall, i think its a pretty solid fit but i'd say swap the rep for a third EANM for the extra survivability. Thumbs up! -
July 16, 2009, 04:53:37 am
Personally i prefer a dual-repping active Geddon that has a cap that lasts 8 minutes which is long enough for almost any PvP engagement, but overall, i think its a pretty solid fit but i'd say swap the rep for a third EANM for the extra survivability. Thumbs up!
Thanks!
A dual rep geddon for PVP it's pretty rare...
Thanks for the thumbs up :-) -
July 16, 2009, 09:58:22 am
if you solo pvp and you can pick your prey then duel repping is awesome. a duel repping black ops is death incarnate. -
July 16, 2009, 10:53:24 am
I dueal rep with my Mega....but those two ships are really different -
July 18, 2009, 09:09:42 am
Yeah, I much prefer the active rep if ur gonna go with gunnery rigs and not triple trimark it. I like this fit quite a bit. Ogre II's and t2 Focused Heavy guns might work better, I haven't EFT'd it yet so I dont know if u could actually fit the t2 guns though. Very nice. -
July 18, 2009, 11:38:22 am
The aim isn't to make it an unstoppable deathmachine, it's to make a viable PvP setup that is as cheap as possible, so T2 guns and drones are out the window when it comes to cost. -
July 20, 2009, 10:49:47 pm
If one goes for t2 plates, you can cut out 2m! it fits for me. -
July 25, 2009, 02:50:43 am
uh why do u have a warp disrupter in a mission fit?i mean u also have no cap recharger II -
July 25, 2009, 02:52:06 am
and your using a large cap booster I instead of a cap booster II or a cap recharger II and as a last slot in the rigs you should havve a ccc because you cant be cap stable like that
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July 25, 2009, 03:26:17 am
/facepalm -
July 25, 2009, 06:04:05 pm
uh why do u have a warp disrupter in a mission fit?i mean u also have no cap recharger II
LOL......are you like retarded? j/k j/k but really, do you thing this is a mission fit? Have you noticed the title of the post or even the dozens of comments about PVP?
Gee read first because posting that kind of useless comments -
July 30, 2009, 12:22:25 am
Like the setup, been looking for a cheap geddon for null sec and i can fly it well in around 2 weeks, just what i've been looking for! +! -
July 30, 2009, 06:09:35 am
Like the setup, been looking for a cheap geddon for null sec and i can fly it well in around 2 weeks, just what i've been looking for! +!
Thanks! -
August 01, 2009, 03:35:17 am
Might try it out: always looking to get podded in slightly less expensive ships Had some fun in a harby with similar style of fit - managed to not get totally ganked by a bunch of T3 cruisers. -
August 05, 2009, 02:20:18 am
nice fit m8, been flying around in an simular setup just t2 guns, and it works well. ( i use slaves ) -
August 05, 2009, 04:39:17 am
Thanks :-) I don't have the skills for the T2 guns but I think the price tag won't be too high even with them ..... -
August 07, 2009, 11:55:49 pm
keep the rep for solo or small gangs its way better than another plate a enam or shield booster. same for megas fyi nooblets . my fit has 4 mega pulse and 3 dual heavy and trimarks instead of the dmg. rigs is mucho better and yes still with a rep ,,, shock horror but its not fashionable!! sheep. and you can fit a Large Solace if your a few guys wanting to own. needs a medium nuet with the mega pulse on :s -
August 08, 2009, 05:31:03 pm
keep the rep for solo or small gangs its way better than another plate a enam or shield booster. same for megas fyi nooblets . my fit has 4 mega pulse and 3 dual heavy and trimarks instead of the dmg. rigs is mucho better and yes still with a rep ,,, shock horror but its not fashionable!! sheep. and you can fit a Large Solace if your a few guys wanting to own. needs a medium nuet with the mega pulse on :s
If you fit trimarks the price tag would be wrong. 3 trimarks it's like 30 million more, at the best... -
August 09, 2009, 12:33:15 am
3 trimarks adds anything from 75-90m onto the price tag, depending on the region. -
August 10, 2009, 08:22:08 am
3 trimarks adds anything from 75-90m onto the price tag, depending on the region.
That. lol -
August 19, 2009, 11:02:25 am
1600 tungstens and meta 1 guns... wat? is it a budget fit, or is it not?
Personally, i'd say scorch is worth the price for t2 guns. If you don't have the skills for t2 large pulse, put t2 1600mms, or lower meta to save around 7 mil. If the PG gives you trouble I'd go for a medium cap injector II instead (if it means being able to fit t2 guns). -
August 19, 2009, 02:46:22 pm
THose are meta 4 guns. Lrn2doresearch next time. -
August 20, 2009, 05:27:21 am
Hmmm, this fit is good, Just I cant fit the damn thing, Put it in EFT and with all lvl 5 still not enough PG or CPU to even use it, Can only squeeze 2 plates on there with the 7 guns and Neut, Nevermind everything else. thanks though -
August 20, 2009, 06:09:52 am
Hmmm, this fit is good, Just I cant fit the damn thing, Put it in EFT and with all lvl 5 still not enough PG or CPU to even use it, Can only squeeze 2 plates on there with the 7 guns and Neut, Nevermind everything else. thanks though
There are only 2 plates on this fit.
Are you trying to copy the fit by hand? Use the "Export to EFT" link instead. With all level 5 skills this fits with 19 CPU and a lot of PG to spare. -
August 20, 2009, 06:12:16 am
1600 tungstens and meta 1 guns... wat? is it a budget fit, or is it not?
Personally, i'd say scorch is worth the price for t2 guns. If you don't have the skills for t2 large pulse, put t2 1600mms, or lower meta to save around 7 mil. If the PG gives you trouble I'd go for a medium cap injector II instead (if it means being able to fit t2 guns).
I hope you did not put a thumbs down because you know nothing about guns and ship fitting lol. These are meta 4 guns, and the T2 plates would only make your ship be slower and have higher fitting requirements.
To leeroy: I don't know why you can't fit it. This fits even if I don't have AWU level 5....maybe you put a wrong module somewhere :-) -
August 22, 2009, 09:11:55 am
Stuff
I hope you did not put a thumbs down because you know nothing about guns and ship fitting lol. These are meta 4 guns, and the T2 plates would only make your ship be slower and have higher fitting requirements.
Just because I interpreted the fit as being budget on account of the guns, which you rightly assume I mistook for being meta 1, does not mean I know nothing about fitting.
Yes tungstens are the best plates, but that also means that they cost 4 mil a piece, which is why I prefer to fit t2 if I have the spare fittings for it, as that equates to ~~2.5 mil saved. Meta 4 lasers are also extremely overpriced in my opinion, but then I prefer budget fits over max performance fits. This will mean a loss in performance, but an increase in cost efficiency. It is a compromise and as such a matter of the individuals circumstance (i.e. the individuals economy) and to some extent preference. -
August 24, 2009, 12:09:06 am
Meta 4 are way cheaper than T2. -
August 29, 2009, 03:58:56 pm
It could've been cheaper (really the hull is only 50mil, it's not something you put 40 mil into especially that the guns are T1s), but all in all it was tested by many people and proved itself in battle to be very good and effective. Would be as effective for 60mil but whatever floats your boat. -
August 29, 2009, 06:38:14 pm
Yeah you can do cheaper...I tried to have a balance between budget and regular mods we can put -
September 02, 2009, 07:17:26 pm
well if u buy the amarr navy multi frequency it would change the price to about 95mil avg...
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September 02, 2009, 11:27:52 pm
Just let this thread die, I'm bored of seeing it in my replies window >_> -
September 03, 2009, 05:13:34 am
Just let this thread die, I'm bored of seeing it in my replies window >_>
Lol thanks dude! -
September 03, 2009, 10:41:52 am
Just let this thread die, I'm bored of seeing it in my replies window >_>
There are a few threads I feel that way about, I somehow still fell compelled to reply to them on occasion however. -
September 03, 2009, 11:41:59 am
are you kidding me? Aaspa is the most crazed self-bumper bc has ever seen -
September 03, 2009, 01:51:12 pm
are you kidding me? Aaspa is the most crazed self-bumper bc has ever seen
No jokes, I reckon Aaspa has at least 50 more posts in his total from this thread alone. -
September 03, 2009, 08:10:39 pm
what is the best drone instead of orgre? -
September 04, 2009, 10:00:54 am
I, for one, like the Rep. Sure, you could eek out a few more HP with another 1600mm RRT Plate, but the fact of the matter is, I'd rather be able to rep my ship between fights without having to go back to a station.
What if you manage to point down something that has no hope of chewing through your tank, and is for sure dead? Sure, it's an easy fight, but then you find yourself down armor for the next fight, and you're at a disadvantage.
PvP in ALL games is always about taking every advantage you can, no matter how small, and mitigating every advantage that your opponent has or gains. Not having all of your armor gives them an edge, and you don't want to do that. -
September 04, 2009, 03:57:10 pm
I'd just say guys that you are the ones keeping the thread alive :-) I don't play to this game anymore but I check my loadouts from time to time and reply when someone leaves a comment :-) -
September 04, 2009, 10:01:59 pm
Yea, Aspa, I actually appreciated that you stopped the shameless bumping of this thread back in June when I complained about it. Thanks.
Now I'm just annoyed that random people like myself keep bumping it for no good reason. -
September 05, 2009, 06:26:26 am
ya wtf.. u stopped playin eve? entirely or a break -
September 05, 2009, 06:22:16 pm
ya wtf.. u stopped playin eve? entirely or a break
If not entirely then a VERY LONG break :-) I have no idea if I will ever come back to Eve... -
September 07, 2009, 09:52:03 am
i like this build alot. especialy the cost. +1 from me -
September 07, 2009, 06:27:41 pm
i like this build alot. especialy the cost. +1 from me
Thanks a lot!
P.S.: This is not bumping! -
September 11, 2009, 03:48:30 pm
nice fit but doesnt fit with t2 dual pulse. not sure if some one already pointed this out -
September 11, 2009, 04:38:48 pm
It does if you use 1 burst accelerator and 2 algid energy administrations unit rigs, you loose 3 DPS but then it's much cheaper. -
September 12, 2009, 10:41:53 am
nice fit but doesnt fit with t2 dual pulse. not sure if some one already pointed this out
T2 dual pulses are more skill intensive and cost more. This is has been made to be used by people with no very high skills and for a cost/effectiveness ratio. Don't forget that :-) -
September 13, 2009, 08:23:41 pm
cant you use like hmm... mega heavy moodulated pulse laser?
not dual? cause dual lower dps -
September 14, 2009, 05:35:02 am
cant you use like hmm... mega heavy moodulated pulse laser?
not dual? cause dual lower dps
No it won't fit afaik. And the DPS loss is not big because the dual have a wonderful ROF with the ship bonuses.
P.S. Some people put thumbs down and they don't even tell why. You suck. -
September 15, 2009, 07:42:19 pm
i dont put thumns down!
i put thumbs up!!!!!! -
September 16, 2009, 01:59:42 am
great setup!
plain and simple. i love plain and simple.
a thumb up from me. -
September 16, 2009, 12:23:27 pm
Thanks guys! :-) -
September 17, 2009, 08:26:48 am
What kind of range do you get with those Multi Freq's? I fit mine kinda like this. Good fit! +1 -
September 17, 2009, 09:53:09 am
Um.....as far as I remember it's 12 or 15km optimal...I honnestly don't remember I haven't played in a long time.
Good gunnery skills help of course! -
October 06, 2009, 08:08:00 am
Good fit, It has damage mods decent EHP, Goodish DPS though the "Mega" pulse lasers you give you a lot more and might fit if you switched your rigs.
And I like reppers so +1 -
October 06, 2009, 12:28:11 pm
Hmm, the price point isn't right anymore. Inflation at work it seems. -
October 06, 2009, 12:37:17 pm
sure you can hit a ship that is within range of their warp dist., problem is what happens when tracking dist. are being used on you? suddenly you are stuck w/o any dps and no way to get closer to target to hit it or away w/o a mwd. -
October 07, 2009, 03:30:48 am
sure you can hit a ship that is within range of their warp dist., problem is what happens when tracking dist. are being used on you? suddenly you are stuck w/o any dps and no way to get closer to target to hit it or away w/o a mwd.
If you are too far away from the target, just leave :-0
Man, there is no perfect ship. Bring me any fit you have I will always find a flaw. -
October 07, 2009, 03:32:16 am
Hmm, the price point isn't right anymore. Inflation at work it seems.
I don't know maybe I haven't played to the game in 2 months. You tell me xD -
October 07, 2009, 10:03:00 am
The price based on current eve central numbers is at the top of every battleclinic loadout now (at least I think it is eve cntral numbers because it agrees with my EFT price)QuoteTime: May 08, 2009, 11:51:19
Build: Apocrypha 1.3.1 - 30 June 2009
Rating: Up: 74, Down: 12
Views: 14,492
Estimated value: 89,483,926 ISK
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October 07, 2009, 04:09:06 pm
The price based on current eve central numbers is at the top of every battleclinic loadout now (at least I think it is eve cntral numbers because it agrees with my EFT price)
QuoteTime: May 08, 2009, 11:51:19
Build: Apocrypha 1.3.1 - 30 June 2009
Rating: Up: 74, Down: 12
Views: 14,492
Estimated value: 89,483,926 ISK
Similar loadouts: 1
OMG 4 million more expensive? That's nothing and you shouldn't trust Eve Central prices because they give average prices in the entire universe. -
October 07, 2009, 08:39:56 pm
Agreed the prices can be more or less.
If your moderately "Pro active" and are willing to Jump around a little you can get the fittings much cheaper than Eve central estimates. -
October 08, 2009, 12:50:41 am
Agreed the prices can be more or less.
If your moderately "Pro active" and are willing to Jump around a little you can get the fittings much cheaper than Eve central estimates.
Yes that is exactly right. Like I was often willing to make a few jumps to get a ship 5 or 10 million cheaper than where I was. Same for the weapons, it's a pain in the butt but worth it if you wanna save your isk. -
October 08, 2009, 07:08:34 am
i find it to be easily breakable -
October 08, 2009, 09:53:55 am
Aaspa, you have 61 replies to this thread from you alone. I think this does in fact show that you are the most crazed self-bumper in history.
If you reply to this or indeed ever again in this thread I will be forced to hurt you (ingame (yes I know you've stopped playing for a while, shutup)) -
October 08, 2009, 10:32:33 am
Aaspa, you have 61 replies to this thread from you alone. I think this does in fact show that you are the most crazed self-bumper in history.
If you reply to this or indeed ever again in this thread I will be forced to hurt you (ingame (yes I know you've stopped playing for a while, shutup))
Man I reply to people who make a comment! I'm not one of this guys that make a loadout on battleclinic and never reply to questions or comment on people's comments :-)
P.S. There are still dumbasses giving thumbs down without any explanations! When is Battleclinic going to stop this? xD
BTW, check out Turelle's loadout for the Ishkur, he's worse than me aha -
October 08, 2009, 10:44:19 am
A +1 or -1 should require a post that way they'd think twice before just hitting the -1.
Anyways I wonder if you could remove the rigs and try to fit a rack of bigger guns? -
October 08, 2009, 07:08:31 pm
Either go with a full cheapfit or with a proper t2 one, rigs are optional for the t2 fit but honestly I feel that they're not really necessary. Secondly a geddon is much too slow for any ideal soloing, people will be engaging you on your terms and usually that's not a good thing (for you). -
October 08, 2009, 09:53:51 pm
Either go with a full cheapfit or with a proper t2 one, rigs are optional for the t2 fit but honestly I feel that they're not really necessary. Secondly a geddon is much too slow for any ideal soloing, people will be engaging you on your terms and usually that's not a good thing (for you).
I disagree with that. The range of that ship is good with the heavy neut...you can neut to death any small/mid size ship at safe distance and the tank is really good against bigger ships. Obvsiously you can shoot any kind of ship with that one. But name me one ship that can shoot any one?
Oh an btw if you can afford T2 mods you should get the rigs. Rigs are SO important in PVP, mandatory would I say. Ask any good PVPers (not me lol).A +1 or -1 should require a post that way they'd think twice before just hitting the -1.
Anyways I wonder if you could remove the rigs and try to fit a rack of bigger guns?
I don't know why I should remove the rigs for bigger guns? The DPS difference wouldn't me much and the price tag, even without rigs, wouldn't be so much too because T2 guns are way more expensive than these ones. -
October 09, 2009, 06:50:54 am
Not T2 Guns just the "Mega" ones they'd probably upgrade your DPS if you can fit them, your rigs increase the power grid needs of lasers so by removing them it might allow you to fit the others... I haven't tryed but it's worth a try. -
October 09, 2009, 07:37:42 am
Not T2 Guns just the "Mega" ones they'd probably upgrade your DPS if you can fit them, your rigs increase the power grid needs of lasers so by removing them it might allow you to fit the others... I haven't tryed but it's worth a try.
The DPS difference won't be big even with bigger guns minus the rigs.
P.S. You douchebags explain yourself when you put a thumbs down. -
October 10, 2009, 08:12:18 pm
They may not affect you DPS much but, they'd be close to the same price..(all basic T1s are pretty cheap) but they'd have slightly better range/dps + if you remove the rigs your ship will most likely be cheaper... even if its just a bit.
I think its worth looking into anyways and the dps difference between the focused pulse (Medium) and the Heavy pulse (medium)'s DPS is quite decent.
Personally I haven't flown Amarr BSs yet but what adds up for medium usually adds up in large.
Fly Safe,
NAI -
October 11, 2009, 01:25:32 am
They may not affect you DPS much but, they'd be close to the same price..(all basic T1s are pretty cheap) but they'd have slightly better range/dps + if you remove the rigs your ship will most likely be cheaper... even if its just a bit.
I think its worth looking into anyways and the dps difference between the focused pulse (Medium) and the Heavy pulse (medium)'s DPS is quite decent.
Personally I haven't flown Amarr BSs yet but what adds up for medium usually adds up in large.
Fly Safe,
NAI
Don't forget the ship ROF bonus. the focused pulses have much better rate of fire this is one of the reason why so many people fit them on that particular ship. -
October 11, 2009, 08:51:45 am
Ahh but your forgetting the ROF bonuses are in % (Percentage)
So a 25% ROF on a 4 second ROF laser gives you 3 seconds total (1 second off)
But on a 12 second ROF it'll give you 9 Sec which is 3 seconds off so you get a lot more bonus with longer firing weapons. -
October 11, 2009, 12:42:32 pm
Ahh but your forgetting the ROF bonuses are in % (Percentage)
So a 25% ROF on a 4 second ROF laser gives you 3 seconds total (1 second off)
But on a 12 second ROF it'll give you 9 Sec which is 3 seconds off so you get a lot more bonus with longer firing weapons.
So the focused have a ROF of 3 seconds (depending on your skills) and the the mega have 9? The focused definitively will be more effective. -
October 11, 2009, 12:42:39 pm
Ahh but your forgetting the ROF bonuses are in % (Percentage)
So a 25% ROF on a 4 second ROF laser gives you 3 seconds total (1 second off)
But on a 12 second ROF it'll give you 9 Sec which is 3 seconds off so you get a lot more bonus with longer firing weapons.
So the focused have a ROF of 3 seconds (depending on your skills) and the the mega have 9? The focused definitively will be more effective. -
October 11, 2009, 09:02:50 pm
Notice, in my last post i never mentioned focused or mega, the numbers were completely fictional. These, however, are not.
Medium Pulse
Focused 4.05 x0.75 =3.03 Multfrec. M=24dmgX2 48 DMG/Shot For a total of 15.8DPS
Heavy 5.25 x0.75 =3.93 Multfrec. M=24dmgX3 72 DMG/Shot For a total of 18.3DPS
Large Pulse
Dual Heavy 6.08 x0.75 =4.56 Multfrec. L=48dmgX2 96 DMG/Shot For a total of 21.0DPS
Mega 7.88 x0.75 =5.91 Multfrec. L=48dmgX3 144 DMG/Shot For a total of 24.3DPS
So dispite the fact that the Megas fire quite a bit slower their DPS is still quite a bit higher... you may say "It's just 3.3DPS" but dont forget, "It's PER gun" so that's 23.1 DPS more + more range so the advantage is clear, If the bigger ones fit... USE EM, if they don't then were just wasting time here -
October 11, 2009, 11:12:57 pm
Notice, in my last post i never mentioned focused or mega, the numbers were completely fictional. These, however, are not.
Medium Pulse
Focused 4.05 x0.75 =3.03 Multfrec. M=24dmgX2 48 DMG/Shot For a total of 15.8DPS
Heavy 5.25 x0.75 =3.93 Multfrec. M=24dmgX3 72 DMG/Shot For a total of 18.3DPS
Large Pulse
Dual Heavy 6.08 x0.75 =4.56 Multfrec. L=48dmgX2 96 DMG/Shot For a total of 21.0DPS
Mega 7.88 x0.75 =5.91 Multfrec. L=48dmgX3 144 DMG/Shot For a total of 24.3DPS
So dispite the fact that the Megas fire quite a bit slower their DPS is still quite a bit higher... you may say "It's just 3.3DPS" but dont forget, "It's PER gun" so that's 23.1 DPS more + more range so the advantage is clear, If the bigger ones fit... USE EM, if they don't then were just wasting time here
Thanks for the numbers. You forgot the tracking tho, that is much better with the medium pulses....tracking is the reason why I use electron blasters over ions or neutrons on Gallentes ships.
If you use Large pulses with better DPS, but worst tracking and ROF, using the medium pulses with better tracking and ROF is an advantage as well.
DOn't forget that these are just numbers that do not take into account tracking of the guns. Tracking is extremely important in PVP as well. -
October 12, 2009, 05:27:01 pm
That depends, this is most likely a fleet ship, right?
If your in a fleet and you need to target anything bigger than a Battle Cruiser, no offense, but your fleet needs some more time in newbie town.
AND, if this is a solo ship you'd be looking for trouble if you went after anything smaller than a Battle Cruiser as well so all in all the Megas can track the targets that YOU SHOULD be attacking so on that note I don't think that tracking is an issue. Sure there can be some instances where that little bit of tracking speed can help but remember... It's a BATTLE SHIP, Not a Swiss Army Knife. -.-
And I just checked the tracking speeds:
Dual Heavy 0.0375 RADs
MEGA 0.03375 RADs
The difference is minimal, although after looking at the Blasters, I see your point. The blasters can have over a 0.01 RAD difference and that's quite a bit however the Pulse Lasers don't seem to suffer from that quite as much.
Just keep in mind that, as a battle ship, you have your own role to fill be it in fleet or solo PvP. When you fit your ship you want to fit it for that role and not your Cruiser/Battle Cruiser's role.
Fly Safe,
NAI
PS. After looking at the tracking speeds of hybrid turrets and Pulse Lasers I have one suggestion, stay a respectful 10KMs away from your target, Even though Blasters are EXCELLENT in point blank the Amarr equivalent isn't. On that note a MWD or even just an AB could save you from a lot of pretty nasty situations. -
October 12, 2009, 07:24:21 pm
That depends, this is most likely a fleet ship, right?
Read the thread title dude. -
October 13, 2009, 09:41:25 am
Ya sry about that but if you finish reading my post you'll see that it really doesn't matter. -
October 13, 2009, 01:39:09 pm
this is not a fleet setup, just look at the mids and you should know...
btw i love how peeps keep posting here, its an awesome fitting for low cost. -
October 14, 2009, 04:17:52 am
NAI - Cheap solo ship m8 -
Mega's also take more powergrid, maybe he couldn't fit it, think of that, yet the duals do only minimal less dps and have better tracking -
October 14, 2009, 04:51:14 am
NAI - Cheap solo ship m8 -
Mega's also take more powergrid, maybe he couldn't fit it, think of that, yet the duals do only minimal less dps and have better tracking
Yep. I don't know what Nai is expecting for 85 million. For God sake read the damn title and the description of the fit before posting.
And Nai it sounds like you spend more time palying with numbers than flying your ship. This is a 85 million loadout, don't exepect it to do miracles. And again, there is no perfect loadout for any ship. Bring me any of your loadout and I will find 10 flaws lol...seriously.... -
October 14, 2009, 07:12:46 am
Calculate it, with the megas you can remove the rigs thus making it cheaper but anyways It's already a good fit.
The Megas would fit with a 1% PG implant and yes I mess around with numbers quite a bit, however I have played the game as well and the numbers are quite important. If two players with equal skill and intelligence fight the only advantage either one can get ARE numbers.
Anyways, Fly Safe,
NAI
PS. All those saying "its a solo ship" I got that the first time, however I doubt you read the rest of that post up there I have about 2 lines saying "Fleet" and well... I don't know.. The whole post talking about solo. In a forum once something has been said don't repeat it, it makes for a lot of clutter for nothing. -
October 14, 2009, 05:05:24 pm
I made that fit for solo work, maybe gang. For a fleet, I would have long range weapons, different mids and lows. And different rigs. -
November 21, 2009, 05:26:25 pm
i personally like a solid buffer Armageddon
With propper fitting and rigs mine gets up to
154k ehp w/o fleet bonuses
w/ fleet is arouind 170k ehp
Also 4 heavy t2 neauts and 2 med t2 neuts works wonders when you have 5x t2 ogres -
November 21, 2009, 08:04:21 pm
i havent looked at this in EFT but downgrading the RRT to reinforced crystaline carbonide would drop you maybe 500 EHP and be like 5-6 mil cheaper with little more fitting reqs... just a thought -
November 21, 2009, 08:27:46 pm
i havent looked at this in EFT but downgrading the RRT to reinforced crystaline carbonide would drop you maybe 500 EHP and be like 5-6 mil cheaper with little more fitting reqs... just a thought
Good idea, in fact I use crystalline carbonide plates on my geddon for that very reason. -
November 22, 2009, 09:36:12 am
i personally like a solid buffer Armageddon
With propper fitting and rigs mine gets up to
154k ehp w/o fleet bonuses
w/ fleet is arouind 170k ehp
Also 4 heavy t2 neauts and 2 med t2 neuts works wonders when you have 5x t2 ogres
Why do you bother saying that? You're talking about a loadout that is completely different and serve a different purpose. -
November 22, 2009, 01:44:40 pm
i personally like a solid buffer Armageddon
With propper fitting and rigs mine gets up to
154k ehp w/o fleet bonuses
w/ fleet is arouind 170k ehp
Also 4 heavy t2 neauts and 2 med t2 neuts works wonders when you have 5x t2 ogres
Why do you bother saying that? You're talking about a loadout that is completely different and serve a different purpose.
Probably didn't read the fact that this was a solo Geddon. -
November 23, 2009, 01:40:09 pm
i use this setup but i use armor rigs to boost the Large armor rep but apart from that its a great setup +1 from me -
November 25, 2009, 10:37:30 am
i use this setup but i use armor rigs to boost the Large armor rep but apart from that its a great setup +1 from me
Thanks! -
December 22, 2009, 04:31:44 pm
Looks like a decent fit. Might just have to try it. Oh and I support you in the fact of the repper. I dual rep alot of my bc's with little buffer. That is more for gangs though. Thumbs up. -
December 24, 2009, 07:01:38 am
Looks like a decent fit. Might just have to try it. Oh and I support you in the fact of the repper. I dual rep alot of my bc's with little buffer. That is more for gangs though. Thumbs up.
I suppose you meant "BS" and not "BC". Thanks for the comment. This is not for gangs or only for very small ones otherwise you'd go buffer for gangs.
