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Today imma troll | Vexor | Standard Cruisers | Gallente |
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Damage received: | 31,223 |
| ISK Destroyed: | 64,412,498 | |
| ISK Dropped: | 14,082,531 | |
| Original value: | 65,534,800 |
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220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II | 4 | 2 | 9,479,880 |
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Medium Energy Neutralizer II | 1 | 0 | 2,499,000 |
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50W Infectious Power System Malfunction | 0 | 1 | 2,000,000 |
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Warp Disruptor II | 1 | 0 | 1,300,000 |
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Stasis Webifier II | 0 | 2 | 2,044,040 |
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Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I | 0 | 1 | 45,332 |
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Gyrostabilizer II | 1 | 1 | 1,922,958 |
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Damage Control II | 1 | 0 | 765,508 |
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Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II | 1 | 1 | 2,073,900 |
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1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I | 0 | 1 | 1,168,560 |
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Medium Trimark Armor Pump I | 2 | 0 | 4,830,000 |
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Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I | 1 | 0 | 183,600 |
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Hobgoblin II | 0 | 1 | 420,555 |
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Cargo | |
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Republic Fleet EMP M | 312 | 1,720 | 1,536,964 |
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Republic Fleet Fusion M | 1,520 | 0 | 1,060,945 |
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Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M | 1,498 | 0 | 1,162,118 |
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Nanite Repair Paste | 3 | 0 | 56,987 |
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Barrage M | 0 | 1,500 | 847,500 |
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Hail M | 0 | 1,638 | 1,097,182 |
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Caldari Navy Nova Assault Missile | 31,223 |
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Comments
t3s are one of the few things that can:
-Evade Bubbles
-Be cloaky
-Excellent Probing strength
-Boosting (as mentioned)
-Carry a warp disruption bubble
-RR moderately
Potentially all at the same time (not the RR and Boosting tho). So using them as just scouts (especially in null and WH), is actually a brilliant and common idea.
@ Netheran - a covert ops can do pretty much everything u listed and for a fraction of the price, which is why they're the 1st choice as "scouts" - now :censored: off.
@ Trinkets - he was double webbed and had 20% structure left when I blew - lucky he had the icing, eh? He and I considered him to be lucky to get away with it. Now, u :censored: off, too.
This thread has run it's course so please only continue to post here if u r an arse-hole.
Also, please stop being so mad or I will have to not like you.
so your saying a covert ops doesnt get caught in a drag bubble? LOL
so you saying a covert ops can provide a moderate form of rr? LOL
so you saying it can use 3 warfare links and give you the ever so precious edge over another player? LOL
But hey at least is a fraction of the price.. t3 scouts is common and a excellent idea. far more usefull then a coverts ops, and worth the isk.
Also I'm not being mad and I don't care if u like me or not. It does however get a bit old seeing the "look at how smart and knowledgeable I am and how leet" comments folk make in response to a clear statement. I'm not interested in validating you, so :censored: off.
Using any ship as "just a scout" is a complete waste of a fleet member when you can ever so easily use them for other things - like providing warp ins, or for initial tackle on ratting battleships, or as a covert cyno, or whatever.
Even the cheap little cov-ops frig can do the things I listed above - AND SHOULD......
The t3 cruiser gives you EVEN MORE options for extra support it can lend as a scout....and is thus a very popular ship choice as a scout....but like EVERY OTHER SHIP - a smart pilot will find ways to use it as MORE than a scout, even when that is his PRIMARY role...
You are lucky thats all he did. Approximately 90% of all 1v1 offers are traps, and you are incredibly lucky he didn't have RR and/or extra dps to drop on top of you as soon as he got a point on you.
Ripper - my original point was that the tengu was not just a scout but was indeed providing command boosts. Thanks so much for your other fabulous comments, though. They are much appreciated.
Thanks also to everybody else who's made comments - they were all gold. No, really. U r all fabulous and i've learned so much stuff here, it really is incredible.
Thanks again. I really have to go now and I can't ever come back, but I'll remember you all and think of you often.
If you don't want to talk about it then don't whine about it...command boosts are hardly a "trick" - and I really don't think they "dishonored" his "1v1" he agreed to in any way - like I said, you got lucky in that regard.
But seriously, the whole thing would never have come up if you hadn't whined.....Nobody would even have made fun of you for losing to a cyclone, as it is well-known to be a powerful pvp ship when fit right.
And I guarantee he'll read this, even *if* he has the self control to keep himself from posting to attempt to make his last statement that he'll "never come back" look true
Dude's too mad to even read.
Given how often you post....It is fairly impressive that you have managed to maintain absolutely no positive reputation to date......
I mean I'm not exactly known as a beacon of awesome-posting around here, and even mine goes up fairly regularly......Are you TRYING to be horrible?
Sorry to derail the thread....just had to ask
i dunno how its calculated but "Karma: -1188" seems fairly bad as well!
Karma goes up or down dependent upon the amount of rep an account has.
I.E. if you clicked a down vote on this post (feel free to try now) my karma would go negative another 317 points.
That said only the epeen wagglers and kb whores give a shit about it. Most of my rep and karma are a product of Widders having a chip on his shoulder.
Then again, can you blame him?
Edit: I think you receive a small amount of + rep and karma for posting over time but can't confirm or deny it.
Arg! Lols are only a barely controlled ragepost away!
NERDY DETECTIVE TIME:
My first piece of information is that because you seem to not care much for pills, imps, and boosters. This means you'd have none of your own shiney things, meaning that you must have had standard, un-buffed hurricane DPS, which is about 600.
A slightly faction cyclone with 750m in implants and a standard or improved blue pill can get over 750 DPS tanked.
After this it was mentioned that when you blew up "it was fortunate he had boosters because when I blew up, he had 20% structure left." 20% structure is rather standard for an un-boostered cyclone to win in. Once you start to run out of cap, you're literally armor and structure tanking. and the longer they hold out, the better for you to boost back into shields. In any hurricane/cyclone battle i've seen, the cyclone ALWAYS ends up in structure. The hurricane is just to well equipted to kill you for it to be a perfect "in shield fight" as is possible against things such as drakes, myrmidons (the bad ones) and anything amarr (the bad ones) This leads me to believe that Engie did rather well in the fight and managed to get to the point where the cyclone pilot is worrying, and also seems a fairly standard place to end battles without boosters.
It should also be considered that many of the pilots who post FRAPS videos on youtube are only decced with Crystals, usually LG, and a standard blue pill booster, and I've seen these types take out plenty of hurricanes, sometimes even 2 at a time.
Odds are there were no boosters used.
Also if there was a booster and it was sitting right next to you as you said, then why didn't you LOL and shoot it down? would have been hilarious.
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The only reason (I believe) the conclusion u'v reached is not necessarily correct is that the difference is all just a matter of timing (as you may doubtless agree/argue). The fact that I had 2 neuts on him the whole battle (one overloaded for much of it and they were originally fired 6 seconds apart) - meant he would either be capped out or perhaps just having difficulty managing it (if he had a cap-booster fitted). If he's capped out then the booster-alt doesn't make that much difference anymore (besides shield resists) because his shield booster module can't operate without cap - it operates at the speed of his (overloaded?) cap-booster.. You've kind of implied this but I'm saying the neuts made it worse of him and he would have popped (earlier) if he wasn't getting tengu-boosts as the cane's dps is sufficient to rip through a cyclones standard hp's pretty quickly - plus my guns were overloaded for as long as possible.
I'm convinced that you'd be right in terms of boosted-cyclones triumphing when fighting shield-canes (especially if they have them scammed not disrupted), but I've fought them before in armour canes and over-whelmed them easily - but admit to not knowing if they had implants or were on combat boosters or not, then. Also the skills of the pilots is important (eve skills - i.e. dps, armour, etc) as it should be possible for a high SP pilot to incinerate 2 of pretty much any equivalent ship if the pilots are very low sp because the formers tank and dps will be so much higher - so I'd be wary of interpreting some of the pvp videos..
Your last point regarding the booster alt sitting right next to me and why didn't I shoot it I won't answer harshly as it seems an honest confusion. He was not sitting next to me at any stage otherwise as you say I would have tried to shoot it down.
'Preciate your well considered and written post and hell, u might even b right, but it would be too incredible to use a tengu as a scout only (especially when it has specific shield-command bonus') - they say if it looks like shit and smells like shit then it probably is.., (see for example Ripper548s and Widdershins posting, above)!
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a) Continuing to argue despite this rather obvious fact.....
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b) WHINING ABOUT IT SO MUCH
As I said, if you hadn't whined, NOBODY would have bothered to comment on this kill AT ALL...
And if you want it to stop now, all you have to do is Shut The
I can't decide if those last comments are further troll or you actually believe I was whining in the first place. Comments about whining are pure troll when there is no evidence of it! I suspect you are just lashing out (in that simplistic way) as you've been comprehensively bitch-slapped. Just actually thinking before you post and not trying so desperately to prove yourself would also help. Now take the advice I gave you before and
I honestly don't think you have managed to comprehend a single word I have said in this entire topic....
If folk get tired of trolling and tell you so m8, don't get suprised and all butt-hurt about it - that's just hypocrisy. You repeating u'rself and using caps just goes to show it's you who's getting mad! You make me laugh. Just say nothing if you've nothing positive to say - it's much better for all of us.
That aside, if you are simply trying to get the thread locked by trolling me, I'm quite happy to oblige - but you'd get it locked faster if you just started a good, annoying pyramid
I'm sure you see that, too (now?).
Lock it and it's pure hypocrisy.
Regardless of whether you do or not - conversing with you, while mildly stimulating, has ultimately proven to be a monumental waste of time, so, nice job ( - that is what you do, isn't it?) and is probably the only real reason you haven't locked the thread..
Y U NO KEEP PROMISES!
Locked.