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Aenigma's Stacking Penalty Guide

Author: SghnDubh
Time: March 11, 2007, 10:52:31 am
Rating: Up: 6, Down: 0
Get it here! Aenigma's Stacking Penalty Guide is now available.

This highly technical document explains in great detail how stacking penalties work as of Revelations.

Please offer your feedback, thoughts, or questions here. Thanks and Fight Smart!
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  • March 11, 2007, 02:34:21 pm

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    svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. svzurich forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know.

    Thank you very much, Aenigma!  :D
  • March 14, 2007, 06:21:08 am

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    Brad Stone has no influence.

    That is just an awesome peice of mathematical analysis.

    I wonder what the significance of 7.1289 is, maybe it's just a number they chose to fit the curve to what they wanted, but it would be cool if it represented something meaningful.

    This guide will be awesomely useful if/when we get round to making a ship fitter for EVEMon.
  • March 15, 2007, 04:24:50 pm

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    Aenigma has no influence.

    I suppose they had 1 over 7 to fit an approximate curve and then thought 'hmmm, lets do 12' and 'it really needs 89'. I don't think this is far from the truth, because by the looks of it, it's exactly 7.1289, and that's a really odd constant. It could be the number of players at the introduction of this stacking penalty divided by 10000 as well. Might be fun to look that one up.
  • March 15, 2007, 04:34:01 pm

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    MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. MrCue forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know.

    Maybe its the :
    Average number of dev's per BoB corp?
    Average number of GMs in LV corps?
    Average attention span of a goonfleet member? (in nanoseconds)
  • March 15, 2007, 04:51:22 pm

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    SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know.

     :o
  • April 08, 2007, 08:27:37 pm

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    Smeghead has no influence.

    Maybe its the :
    Average number of dev's per BoB corp?
    Average number of GMs in LV corps?
    Divided by 100?
    Quote
    Average attention span of a goonfleet member? (in nanoseconds)
    They have an attention span?
  • April 17, 2007, 09:47:12 am

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    metalmonkeymood has no influence.

    Wow. I hadn't bothered reading through it before but now that I have ... just wow. Of course, the whole reason I dropped out of CS in university was because of my mediocre (at best) maths skills, so I may not be the best judge...
  • August 08, 2007, 06:25:25 pm

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    M3ta might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up.

    Needs spellchecking... badly.
  • August 10, 2007, 09:36:20 am

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    jlobes has no influence.

    Alternatively poke TomB.

    I hear he has that formula tattoo'd as a trampstamp =P

    Great work man, thanks for that.
  • October 27, 2007, 11:36:59 pm

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    josh_1143 has no influence.

    Needs spellchecking... badly.


    its maths not english who cares?
  • January 15, 2008, 05:09:27 am

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    Mr Scrapie is breaking through obscurity. Mr Scrapie is breaking through obscurity. Mr Scrapie is breaking through obscurity. Mr Scrapie is breaking through obscurity. Mr Scrapie is breaking through obscurity.


    An excellent bit of work. Jolly well done, that man.    :thumbsup:
  • January 15, 2008, 06:53:57 am

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    Ronin Bloodangel is a rising star! Ronin Bloodangel is a rising star! Ronin Bloodangel is a rising star! Ronin Bloodangel is a rising star! Ronin Bloodangel is a rising star! Ronin Bloodangel is a rising star!

    Well done, another great tool. way to go Aenigma .
  • February 08, 2008, 12:48:02 pm

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    psychoticpunk has no influence.

    That was the best news I'd read all day, I'd always wondered what the actual penalties were and could never actually find anywhere that broke it down so completely or even at all. It even came right out and answered my real question, what is the optimal number of mods/rigs to use without wasting slots or isk.

    Thanks!!! :notworthy:
  • February 08, 2008, 04:13:24 pm

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    SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know. SghnDubh forgot more about gaming than you'll ever know.


    +1 karma to psychoticpunk for spreading luv.
  • February 08, 2008, 04:27:00 pm

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    delindsay struggles to be heard. delindsay struggles to be heard.

     :smitten:
  • February 08, 2008, 10:29:58 pm

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    Doma has no influence.

    That is just an awesome peice of mathematical analysis.

    I wonder what the significance of 7.1289 is, maybe it's just a number they chose to fit the curve to what they wanted, but it would be cool if it represented something meaningful.

    This guide will be awesomely useful if/when we get round to making a ship fitter for EVEMon.

    I ran into that number before when I was doing an encryption project using a set of dominos as the number set.  That number is the root of the magnitude growth of any system based on domino's.  I guess that means that the algorithm they use is binary but with a 27 slot modifier on every variable and various double positive and double negative switches.

    Then again, maybe it's just a coincidence.
  • February 08, 2008, 10:38:02 pm

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    simo98 might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. simo98 might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. simo98 might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. simo98 might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up. simo98 might just get shoved out an airlock if they keep it up.

    lol i opend this and took 1 look at all the equations and went, screw this i came home from school to play eve, not do more maths XD  looks impressive tho well done.
  • July 10, 2008, 07:04:28 pm

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    Senator Lennon has no influence.

    that is beautiful. it almost brings a tear to my eye. thank you.
  • July 10, 2008, 08:34:12 pm

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    The Constant Drinker has no influence.

    Thanks Aenigma. The equations went completly over my head but i got the mains points. So the rule of thumb here is no more than 3 because then stac penalty is too great. 
  • July 11, 2008, 04:55:39 am

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    Brandoe has no influence.

    Exactly what the doctor ordered. Much love to Aenigma. I had been asking around but I always got conflicting answers, but now i know for sure.

    Thanks again.  :notworthy:
  • September 20, 2008, 08:52:45 pm

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    I bow before the mathematical POWERS you have oh wise swammy.  :lol:

    Man This is some sweet stuff, and i give you my utmost thanks for your hard work over this.  :notworthy:

    May the EVE Gods, bare there blessing on you.

    -DarkAssasain
  • January 01, 2009, 04:24:25 am

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    This is awesome and really helped a lot...quite good mathematic work i must say
  • July 07, 2009, 05:23:37 pm

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    Cyzlak has no influence.

    Thanks to Constant Drifter's post I didn't even have to read the guide to get the all important answer. Thanks to Aenigma for doing all the hard work that requires superior mathematic prowess!
  • September 10, 2009, 01:15:23 am

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    Gorinn has no influence.

    Needs spellchecking... badly.



    Meh!
  • September 14, 2009, 02:04:24 am

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    Now if we could get an excel document with drop downs for item selection that would be awsome. I fairly sure it can do the math for us less  worthy : )
  • August 02, 2010, 03:53:11 am

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    fukk flamers and griefers, I am no more struggles to be heard. fukk flamers and griefers, I am no more struggles to be heard.

    so if i had this:-

    24% + 15% + 22.5% what would be the final percentage??
    eg eanm2 + shield resist rig + hardener?

    24 (x1.0) + 22.5 (x86%) + 15 (x59%) ==??

    == 1.0 + 0.86 + 0.59 == x2.45??
    == 24 + 19.35 + 8.85 == +52.2%??
    or == 24 x 19.35 x 8.85 == +wot??
    or == 24 / 19.35 / 8.85 == +wot??

    or wot?? love maths but plain, clear n concise english is moar better!!! and defo needs a better fontface or swap the '*' for 'x' for the multiplication symbol....
  • October 30, 2010, 12:52:00 pm

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    Well done, good sir. :|
  • January 28, 2011, 09:49:48 pm

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    yuriy206 has no influence.

    Congrats, you have figured out a part of the mysterious physics of the eve reality.